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08-23-2007, 01:39 PM
REV. JUANITA BYNUM 'SAVAGELY' BEATEN BY BISHOP THOMAS WEEKS
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Famed televangelist suffers domestic abuse from minister husband.
August 23, 2007
It was only yesterday in EUR's Gospel Pages that we broke the news of 48-year-old Juanita Bynum playing the part of a twenty something TV producer in the upcoming movie "Mama I Want to Sing."
Now comes the news that the televangelist, known for her fiery and frank sermons about women's empowerment have won her a national following, got the crap beat out of her by her husband who's also a minister!
Atlanta police say Bynum, became the victim of domestic abuse after her husband, Bishop Thomas Weeks, savagely beat her in a hotel parking lot Tuesday night-Wednesday morning.
It has also come to light that Rev. Bynum and Bishop Weeks are in the middle of a separation. Apparently the two agreed to meet in the dining room of the Renaissance Hotel near Hartsfield-Jackson airport to try and work out their differences.
The meeting reportedly did not go well and ended with Bishop Weeks leaving abruptly. Reverend Bynum followed him to the parking lot where the two exchanged words, says a Bynum relative.
Then, according to an Atlanta Police Department report, Weeks allegedly attacked her. In a statement to police, Bynum said Weeks, "choked her, pushed her down, kicked her and stomped her in the Renaissance parking lot."
A bellhop at the hotel saw the attack, stepped in and stopped it, says officer Ron Campbell of the APD.
Rev. Bynum was taken to a local hospital and treated for multiple bruises and swelling. She's being kept an undisclosed location.
At EUR press time, police were searching for Bishop Thomas Weeks.
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Husband attacks evangelist Bynum in parking lot
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Juanita Bynum, a preacher whose fiery and frank sermons about women's empowerment have won her a national following, was attacked by her husband in the parking lot of an Atlanta hotel early Wednesday morning, police said.
Bynum, whose ministry is based in Waycross, and her estranged husband, Thomas W. Weeks III, had met up at Renaissance Concourse Hotel near Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport to try to reconcile, Atlanta police said.
But while at the parking lot about 4 a.m., the two got into a physical fight until a bellman at the hotel pulled Bynum's husband off her, Officer Ronald Campbell said.
"She was bruised up and battered," Campbell said. "She had purple bruising around her neck and upper torso."
The husband, who is also a preacher, left the scene. No charges have been filed against him, according to police.
Police found out about the fray from a staff member at Piedmont Hospital, where Bynum was taken for a checkup. She could not be reached Wednesday night.
A popular Pentecostal evangelist, Bynum lives in Hempstead, N.Y., but her administrative offices are in Waycross. She is open about her past, freely talking about sex and being on welfare, hospitalized with a mental breakdown, divorced and spiritually broken.
Once a homemaker, a hairdresser and a flight attendant, Bynum's big break came when Bishop T.D. Jakes invited her to speak at one of his conferences several years ago. Her ministry took off a couple of years later after she gave her unrehearsed "No More Sheets" sermon on breaking free of sexual promiscuity at a singles event.
Since then, she has parlayed her tough-love evangelism into a one-woman industry, writing several best-selling books, recording inspirational CDs and preaching to millions through televised sermons.
She has been a regular at Megafest, Jakes' four-day festival of worship, music, education and praise that drew thousands every year it took place in Atlanta.
Her 2002 wedding to Weeks, who started the Global Destiny churches nationwide, was televised and, according to media reports, featured a gown with a bodice covered in crystals and a 7.76-carat diamond ring.
Evangelist's Husband Surrenders
Early Friday, the husband of popular evangelist Juanita Bynum turned himself in to police to face charges of beating his wife outside an Atlanta hotel.
Thomas W. Weeks III is also a minister -- and his attorneys said there are two sides to the story, and that it is not as cut and dry as police have suggested.
Weeks was accompanied by his lawyer when he surrendered at the Fulton County Jail, said Atlanta Police spokesman James Polite.
After being photographed and fingerprinted, Weeks was expected to be released on bail, Polite said.
Weeks faces charges of aggravated assault and terroristic threats following a confrontation in which he left his estranged wife badly bruised, Atlanta police said.
Police said the fight was so bad that a doorman at the hotel had to step in and stop it. But apparently, it was not Bynum who initiated the charges. Hospital workers called police who then proceeded with the case.
The 2002 televised wedding between Juanita Bynum and Thomas Weeks III was an opulent affair that heralded what had become a global ministry for the two popular pastors.
Bynum's ministry has been celebrated for its empowerment of women.
But now, pictures as shown on TMZ.com purport to show the injuries Bynum sustained at the hands of her husband.
"We took warrants out on him today for aggravated and terroristic threats," said Ron Campbell of the Atlanta Police Department. "Both counts are felonies."
Police said the couple had come to a restaurant at a hotel near Hartsfield-Jackson Airport to hammer out their marital problems. But at 4 a.m. Wednesday, something went terribly wrong.
"They got into an argument, and as they were walking through the parking lot, he started to choke her, pushed her down, began to kick her, and stomp her," said Campbell.
Weeks' attorneys said there are two sides to the story, but only one in his heart.
"He wanted his wife to know that he loves her very much and that he is grief stricken over the circumstances that he finds himself in," said attorney Ed Garland.
Marriage counseling has been a big part of Weeks' appeal, even as he fights to save his own marriage.
"As far as we know, no divorce has been filed," said Garland. "The bishop has no intention of filing for divorce. Again, he loves his wife he wants that to be a known fact."
Bynum issued a statement on her MySpace page on Thursday.
"I am recovering from all of my injuries and resting well," the statement said. "There are so many great things happening for me in my future, and so much to look forward to concerning my destiny, this too shall pass."
She and her husband pastor the Global Destiny International Center in Duluth, but the church has congregations from California to London.
escaladebmrman
08-23-2007, 02:10 PM
this don't make any sense, he is a coward to the tenth degree, if i was anywhere near him, i would punch his lights out for hitting a lady, If it is over between you two, then leave amicably,
wsburke
08-23-2007, 02:12 PM
Bishop Thomas W. Weeks, III has a well known father in (Thomas W. Weeks, Sr.) Wilmington, DE who is also a Bishop and has his own church named "New Destiny". I wonder what is mother and father are thinking?
audaciousred
08-23-2007, 02:14 PM
It is a darn shame that this happened. How can a man think that he can hit a woman, and he had nothing to do with her birth? Maybe we need a committee of Known "Real Men" teaching classes on all to men up.
This has nothing to do with the church, it has to do with the people. I was thought that there are always 3 sides to every story; yours, mine and the truth. People - where is the love for self, for others? I must say though, when he left abruptly, she should not have followed. Not excusing his actions, just want to say 'self perservation first"
Sandi
08-23-2007, 02:18 PM
It's ashame that she was beaten by her husband who is suppose to be a man of God. I just hope that people don't start assuming that all religious men are like that. It's unfortunate that she was beaten and my prayers go out to her. However, it seems like Mike always takes an opportunity and uses just about every topic to bash on religious people. Okay, I respect that he's not a religious person, but, he doesn't have to bash on those who are. I understand that they are some phony relgious people but not all. He seems to be for porn stars and everyone who is into sex, but not for religious people. This doesn't send a good message to our young people who are now listening to his show. He was even glorifying nudist.
When I see religious men like Reverend Run from Run's House and what good examples he is setting has a husband, father and a man in general, it brings joy to my heart to see that some religous men are applyin the bible in their lives. So you can see that when a man of God really loves God and apply what the bible says in his life, he would love and cherish his wife and not beat her.
Dream On
08-23-2007, 02:27 PM
I must say though, when he left abruptly, she should not have followed. Not excusing his actions, just want to say 'self perservation first"
I totally agree. When he left abruptly she should have went the other way. He obviously needed time to cool off. Like you I'm not excusing his action but sometimes, as women when need to step back and let that man cool down.
NmyPrime
08-23-2007, 02:28 PM
He needs to re-read his own book ~~ Teach me how to love you
Sinceresista
08-23-2007, 02:32 PM
In response to Sandi and In Michael's defense (even though he doesn't need my help) I don't think this post has anything to do with his religious beliefs, i believe he is informing the public of what happens in the lives of men and women, whether they are "people of the cloth" or not. The sad reality is, that it happens and it's time that we stop sweeping these things under the rug and deal with them.
kennedyjones
08-23-2007, 02:35 PM
Seriously anything can happen to anyone of us. So we needn't be shocked at this story bc they are Pastors. None of us know what goes on in our fellow church members' or leaders' homes. It goes on everywhere! We should be outraged for ALL instances, not just well known victims or abusers! WHAT ABOUT NAIMA AND RAY? OR JESSICA AND PAUL? OR ABDUL AND SHAEEDA?
I am not condoning physical abuse in any form.....
But I will say this.. man puleez!!!! I reckognize that men are (in most cases) stronger than women. But I tell you what...I might be in the hospital longer than the man who puts his hands on me.. but he will visit the facility as well AS A PATIENT:mad: !!
It is a hurtful thing. My prayers out to all who are involved!
ADDENDUM: Unless we were there or a significant part of the marriage we don't know the events that lead up to or the truth of the event that actually took place. Let us remember that as we formulate our opinions about other people's lives.
Sandi
08-23-2007, 02:37 PM
And in my defense, I've been listening to Mike for 4 years and he turns every topic into a religious bashing topic. One time he was talking about kids who are not reading and he said that its the church's fault. Come on. what kind of nonsens is this. If Mike can keep it real with us, we can keep it real with him. Don't get me wrong, I do like some of his topics, but sometimes he goes overboard with his bashing of christians. I am sure that religious men are not the only ones who beat on women, but we only have a post about a minister. Yesterday, they were talking about the Jena 6 incident, and it turned into a minister bashing show.
In response to Sandi and In Michael's defense (even though he doesn't need my help) I don't think this post has anything to do with his religious beliefs, i believe he is informing the public of what happens in the lives of men and women, whether they are "people of the cloth" or not. The sad reality is, that it happens and it's time that we stop sweeping these things under the rug and deal with them.
sexybrainiac
08-23-2007, 02:39 PM
I would think that a man of GOD who obviously after commiting such a horrendous act against his wife would have FOUND it in himself to have apologized to her and to turn himself in to police. Since she filed a complaint against him this morning, he KNOWS he needs to be locked up.
I expect at least basic humanity from a man of God even in light of making a mistake. There is no excuse for physically harming ANYBODY no matter who you are PERIOD. I'm disgusted. I feel for them but he can do better about redeeming himself, IF he wants to. He should set an example for the boys and men in his ministry. JEESH!
psychotherapist
08-23-2007, 02:41 PM
Domestic violence is on-going. I am a domestic violence therapist and I can tell you just from the description of the incident, this is not the first time that he has beat her. Domestic violence escalates over time.
If anyone has the gall to "jump on you" in a parking lot, that says this is about control, and he had no fear. He didn't respect her to report because he's gotten away with it in the past. The only difference this time is that he did it in a public place.
There was nothing she could have differently!!! ABUSE IS ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL. He has been beating her, he just got caught this time. End of story.
Psychotherapist
8/23/07
REV. JUANITA BYNUM 'SAVAGELY' BEATEN BY BISHOP THOMAS WEEKS
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Famed televangelist suffers domestic abuse from minister husband.
August 23, 2007
It was only yesterday in EUR's Gospel Pages that we broke the news of 48-year-old Juanita Bynum playing the part of a twenty something TV producer in the upcoming movie "Mama I Want to Sing."
Now comes the news that the televangelist, known for her fiery and frank sermons about women's empowerment have won her a national following, got the crap beat out of her by her husband who's also a minister!
Atlanta police say Bynum, became the victim of domestic abuse after her husband, Bishop Thomas Weeks, savagely beat her in a hotel parking lot Tuesday night-Wednesday morning.
It has also come to light that Rev. Bynum and Bishop Weeks are in the middle of a separation. Apparently the two agreed to meet in the dining room of the Renaissance Hotel near Hartsfield-Jackson airport to try and work out their differences.
The meeting reportedly did not go well and ended with Bishop Weeks leaving abruptly. Reverend Bynum followed him to the parking lot where the two exchanged words, says a Bynum relative.
Mark my word in a couple of weeks, Juanital Bynum will come out and disclose about the violence in her marriage.
Then, according to an Atlanta Police Department report, Weeks allegedly attacked her. In a statement to police, Bynum said Weeks, "choked her, pushed her down, kicked her and stomped her in the Renaissance parking lot."
A bellhop at the hotel saw the attack, stepped in and stopped it, says officer Ron Campbell of the APD.
Rev. Bynum was taken to a local hospital and treated for multiple bruises and swelling. She's being kept an undisclosed location.
At EUR press time, police were searching for Bishop Thomas Weeks.
BettyBee
08-23-2007, 02:41 PM
I hope we do not think this is the first time he has done this because if he felt comfortable enough to do this in a parkinglot infront of strangers. Behind close doors just think.
My prayers go out to her and any woman or man who is truely afraid to confront the monster that lies in many who have no self love that they would do something like this and not confront the deep problems with in them selves.
Jay-Pee
08-23-2007, 02:41 PM
Sandi...Mike is a only messenger. He is not the creator of the dramas that go on in our world. I want to believe that everything is fine with the world...its not. Talking about these issues and gaining knowledge from the information gives us power. The "Secrets" gives perpetrators of misdeeds power.
KTRGMB
08-23-2007, 02:41 PM
REV. JUANITA BYNUM 'SAVAGELY' BEATEN BY BISHOP THOMAS WEEKS
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Famed televangelist suffers domestic abuse from minister husband.
August 23, 2007
It was only yesterday in EUR's Gospel Pages that we broke the news of 48-year-old Juanita Bynum playing the part of a twenty something TV producer in the upcoming movie "Mama I Want to Sing."
Now comes the news that the televangelist, known for her fiery and frank sermons about women's empowerment have won her a national following, got the crap beat out of her by her husband who's also a minister!
Atlanta police say Bynum, became the victim of domestic abuse after her husband, Bishop Thomas Weeks, savagely beat her in a hotel parking lot Tuesday night-Wednesday morning.
It has also come to light that Rev. Bynum and Bishop Weeks are in the middle of a separation. Apparently the two agreed to meet in the dining room of the Renaissance Hotel near Hartsfield-Jackson airport to try and work out their differences.
The meeting reportedly did not go well and ended with Bishop Weeks leaving abruptly. Reverend Bynum followed him to the parking lot where the two exchanged words, says a Bynum relative.
Then, according to an Atlanta Police Department report, Weeks allegedly attacked her. In a statement to police, Bynum said Weeks, "choked her, pushed her down, kicked her and stomped her in the Renaissance parking lot."
A bellhop at the hotel saw the attack, stepped in and stopped it, says officer Ron Campbell of the APD.
Rev. Bynum was taken to a local hospital and treated for multiple bruises and swelling. She's being kept an undisclosed location.
At EUR press time, police were searching for Bishop Thomas Weeks.
We can all sit and say what we believe and what should be done, but the main idea to to make sure that the victim is taken care of. Getting caught up in the hustle of "We should beat him," is not the right thing to think about right now. My heart goes out to Ms. Bynum and I pray to God for her speedy recovery. God will take care of those that does wrong. Of course, Mr. Weeks should turn himself in, but what are we solving wishing bad on him. Pray for the problem that he may be having and then pray that this will not be a stumbling block for their christian endeavors. God bless the situation.
It really pisses me off when these tough guys can beat the crap of women and then run like little punks when it's time to go to jail.
I wish I knew where the little sissy was hiding out!:mad:
psychotherapist
08-23-2007, 02:42 PM
Domestic violence is on-going. I am a domestic violence therapist and I can tell you just from the description of the incident, this is not the first time that he has beat her. Domestic violence escalates over time.
If anyone has the gall to "jump on you" in a parking lot, that says this is about control, and he had no fear. He didn't respect her to report because he's gotten away with it in the past. The only difference this time is that he did it in a public place.
There was nothing she could have differently!!! ABUSE IS ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL. He has been beating her, he just got caught this time. End of story.
Psychotherapist
8/23/07
geoffbrizzlfunny
08-23-2007, 02:42 PM
4give my curiosity: I wonder (1) What exactly did she say or do right before this esteemed (at least before this incident) man of God threw his religion out the window and attacked her. (2) Was what SHE said/did Godly? and (3) If given the opportunity, would she say/do the same thing again, as a woman of God? I DO NOT EXCUSE HIS BEHAVIOR, but I also question why, when in the heat of marital battle, is all the weight of Godliness put upon the man.
writinghoneeb
08-23-2007, 02:43 PM
I may sound bias, but my own ex-husband and other men in the Church were some of the most abusive men I ever met in my life. Too many of them use the Bible in their homes to control their wives and not love them. I"m sick and damn tired of seeing this go on in the Church and no one is holding these men accountable, but EVERYONE is always asking the wives to pray, pray, pray and forgive, forgive, forgive. The Church needs to do more to protect these women and help them get out of these dangerous situations instead of telling them that divorce is a sin and scaring many of them to stay in abusive marriages and pray. Jesus died so that we could live an abundantly blessed life and if your man is beating you you ain't living that life.
sexybrainiac
08-23-2007, 02:45 PM
It is apparant he had NO PROBLEM laying hands on her in PUBLIC and with WITNESSES around. It is disgusting. He needs to be a man of integrity and get help, face the music, etc. He is not being obedient to God by being shady. Must be easy to be a powerful minister and feel okay with treating a woman, your wife no less and help meet, like trash.
Sandi
08-23-2007, 02:45 PM
I agreed, Mike is only the messenger, but he is not just delivering a message he is bashing. Yesterday, the message was about Jena 6 boy, what in the world did it have to do with ministers. Then talk about all issues. I don't think that everything is fine in the world with Satan influencing the world, but to constantly put down religious people and glorified nudiest like he did when he came back from Hedo, to me is ridiclues.
Sandi...Mike is a only messenger. He is not the creator of the dramas that go on in our world. I want to believe that everything is fine with the world...its not. Talking about these issues and gaining knowledge from the information gives us power. The "Secrets" gives perpetrators of misdeeds power.
sexybrainiac
08-23-2007, 02:46 PM
None of what you asked is relevant to a woman being beaten, especially by such an ESTEEMED man of GOD...you would NOT expect a man of God to raise his hand to his woman!!!!
It doesn't matter if she "threw her religion out the door" and said every curse word in the book . It does not give this COWARD (running like a punk) the right to put his hands on his wife.
sexybrainiac
08-23-2007, 02:49 PM
4give my curiosity: I wonder (1) What exactly did she say or do right before this esteemed (at least before this incident) man of God threw his religion out the window and attacked her. (2) Was what SHE said/did Godly? and (3) If given the opportunity, would she say/do the same thing again, as a woman of God? I DO NOT EXCUSE HIS BEHAVIOR, but I also question why, when in the heat of marital battle, is all the weight of Godliness put upon the man.
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR ABUSE!! He stomped, kicked, punched,etc HER!!! Why would a man be okay with doing that even ANGRY! No grown person has a reason to do this in anger!!!!
Sandi
08-23-2007, 02:49 PM
I'm not sure if you were refering this to me, my first response was relevant to the article. My other responses were to those who responded to me. Regardless, I just giving my opinions and I am entitled to them.
None of what you asked is relevant to a woman being beaten, especially by such an ESTEEMED man of GOD...you would NOT expect a man of God to raise his hand to his woman!!!!
newmommy
08-23-2007, 02:49 PM
I dont know how true this is but after i told my mother what had happened after listening to the station she told me that this is the reason why juanita didnt wnat to marry again or something because her first husband had abused her which lead her to church???
doll eyes
08-23-2007, 02:51 PM
Its terrible what happen to Juanita Bynum. I am married to a minister as well who I took back after several years of abuse (mental, emotional, physical)because all the christians at my church told me it was the right thing to do. Within a few months after me taking him back it all started back, except the physical abuse. I commend her for having the courage to leave him, I am making my way toward doing the same thing. God bless her!
Tracy7
08-23-2007, 02:53 PM
Hi Michael,
I just want your listeners to know of an organization that supports women through current and past abuse and domestic violence.
Women who are not financially able may even receive support free of charge, from anywhere in the country!
Please visit: www.timeforAsolution.com
or call 877- 4.1.2. - GROW
I'm sure you all can agree that it is TRULY: Time For A Solution!
Sinceresista
08-23-2007, 02:53 PM
And in my defense, I've been listening to Mike for 4 years and he turns every topic into a religious bashing topic. One time he was talking about kids who are not reading and he said that its the church's fault. Come on. what kind of nonsens is this. If Mike can keep it real with us, we can keep it real with him. Don't get me wrong, I do like some of his topics, but sometimes he goes overboard with his bashing of christians. I am sure that religious men are not the only ones who beat on women, but we only have a post about a minister. Yesterday, they were talking about the Jena 6 incident, and it turned into a minister bashing show.
I agree, everything is NOT the church's fault and I don't want to digress, this post is NOT about Michael, but about the senseless beating of Sister Bynum by her husband, a Bishop no less...that's the issue
I agree with you and I don't wish bad on this guy, but I can see he is full of anger and fight. Maybe if he turned himself in he could use some of that anger and fight on BIG TINY SITTING IN CELL NEXT TO HIM.
Landy3261
08-23-2007, 02:54 PM
He's a coward...plain and simple. It's all about the control and power he feels he has over her. I agree with a couple of posts on this board. When he left, she should not have followed him. Let him get gone. He needed an opportunity to cool off. I'm not excusing his cowardly behavior, but when a situation seems likely to get nasty and you stand a good chance of getting hurt, you take yourself of the loop quickly...out of immediate danger. I hope and pray that she will be alright. God is with her. He never left her side...even when this awful thing happened, and he never will.
writinghoneeb
08-23-2007, 02:55 PM
I"m so sorry you let those phony holy-ghost fake filled people convince you to stay. I had Christian friends try that with, and it worked for a few years, but I finally woke up because I knew I was not living the abundantly blessed life Jesus died for.
vickiaqt2
08-23-2007, 02:55 PM
Michael,
Before I tell you who I am I would just like to say "You without sin, cast the first stone!" We are so quick to stone others but we all have "issues" that we are worthy of being stoned so before people cast blame and point an accusatory finger - look at the four fingers that are pointing at you. This is not the time to cast judgement on the Bishop Weeks - it is time to pray for him that he will seek wise counsel and that he will be restored and healed. Divorce and separation are hard issues to face.
I am a playwright of a very powerful play entitled "A Change Is Gonna Come" that deals with domestic violence in the church. For more information see www.forgiven2.com. I stated in my advertisement of the play a few months ago that it was time for the church to deal with this subject before it become a public powder keg that we can not ignore and now here we are......! God gave me this play a year ago while sitting in my bedroom as a revelation that this day would come.
Tracy7
08-23-2007, 02:56 PM
Hi Michael,
I just want your listeners to know of an organization that supports women through current and past abuse and domestic violence.
Women who are not financially able may even receive support free of charge, from anywhere in the country!
Please visit: www.timeforAsolution.com
or call 877- 4.1.2. - GROW
I'm sure you all can agree that it is TRULY: Time For A Solution!
kennedyjones
08-23-2007, 02:58 PM
None of what you asked is relevant to a woman being beaten, especially by such an ESTEEMED man of GOD...you would NOT expect a man of God to raise his hand to his woman!!!!
You are mistaken I did point out that we don't know what happened. I am not saying that he should have hit her under any circumstances... but I do agree something that we don't know about was going on ... infidelity, homosexuality, money problems, a cheater being caught, threatened exposure etc.. WE DON'T KNOW.
BUT IT IS NOT OK TO BEAT YOUR WIFE DOWN.
While I reckognize that the media fixes things to sound juicy, I haven't heard that they were fighting...instead it is that he BEAT HIS WIFE!!
Sandi
08-23-2007, 02:58 PM
Your right this post is about the senseless beating of a woman and its sad. I did comment about how sad it was and I also decided to add a message to Mike in the post. Unfortunate, people only seem to have been concern about what I said about Mike and not the article. But you are right, it is sad what happen to her and she is in my prayers.
I agree, everything is NOT the church's fault and I don't want to digress, this post is NOT about Michael, but about the senseless beating of Sister Bynum by her husband, a Bishop no less...that's the issue
one-cute-bap
08-23-2007, 03:00 PM
This is just the tip of iceberg concerning ALL kinds of abuse in the church by our church leaders!!
Please go to www.allinthenameofgod.com to see for yourselves the kind of sick crimes perpetrated by our so-called 'holy leaders'.
mbutler
08-23-2007, 03:01 PM
Dear Michael,
I know Thomas Wesley Weeks, JR. (his birth name) personally. I know him as Tommy. I've known him for over 20 years and even dated him seriously prior to his first marriage. It is deplorable for any man to hit a woman but I find it hard to believe this story on the surface. There has to be more to the story. Additionally, I know his mother, brother, father, this is just not him nor the way he was raised. This man stood by me when my grandmother died and has shown an enormous capacity to care. I think everyone should defer judgement until all the facts are known.
Lastly, again I don't excuse a man hitting a woman but I also wonder what Ms. Bynum may have said or done to be complicit in this matter. And, yes I said "Complicit". I've been trying to phone your show to give an alternate perspective on this matter but have been unable to get through. You and your guests should not make an already difficult situation worse by being sanctimonious and pontificating about matters that you are not fully informed about.
Thank you.
escaladebmrman
08-23-2007, 03:01 PM
the more i hear this story the madder i get, i pray that prophetist Bynum has enough courage to keep it pushing and go through with the separation/divorce and get away from this loser of a man. How would he expect his followers of his ministry to hear and take heed to anything that he speaks after this. He needs help, how can you kick/beat/stomp a woman, COWARD - PUNK, sorry for my wording, but this is just wrong and he will pay for his injust to his wife.
kennedyjones
08-23-2007, 03:03 PM
I agree with you and I don't wish bad on this guy, but I can see he is full of anger and fight. Maybe if he turned himself in he could use some of that anger and fight on BIG TINY SITTING IN CELL NEXT TO HIM.
Big TINY? lol I understand what you are saying. It is true men who will coward down to "beat" on a woman are normally scared to go "chest to chest" with a man.
This Bishop needs prayer. We must remember that, people who do things like this aren't working with a full deck. He needs prayer and so do all else involved. Let us remember that!
escaladebmrman
08-23-2007, 03:03 PM
COMPLICIT - Why should she have to have said something, it is wrong to put your hands on anyone, Mbutler you are wrong for even spewing this statement and turning it on the victim in this manner
PTwiggy
08-23-2007, 03:04 PM
Domestic violence is on-going. I am a domestic violence therapist and I can tell you just from the description of the incident, this is not the first time that he has beat her. Domestic violence escalates over time.
If anyone has the gall to "jump on you" in a parking lot, that says this is about control, and he had no fear. He didn't respect her to report because he's gotten away with it in the past. The only difference this time is that he did it in a public place.
There was nothing she could have differently!!! ABUSE IS ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL. He has been beating her, he just got caught this time. End of story.
Psychotherapist
8/23/07
this is definitely not the first time...didnt she make mention of him grabbing her one time in one of her sermons, which is out on DVD at that (for millions to hear) ...and that's just it... if you listen to people... they'll tell you without even realizing it.
My prayers are with her...no matter if she's a high profile Evanglist or not...she's my sister, and we each have a responsibility to look out for our family.
one-cute-bap
08-23-2007, 03:04 PM
www.allinthenameofgod.com is real talk by real clergy leaders, Christian psychologists, and political officials concerning abuse by other clergy leaders upon their membership.
It even speaks to this Bynum-Weeks issue.
CHECK IT OUT!!!!!
peanut44
08-23-2007, 03:04 PM
One of the poster's was commenting that Mike takes every chance he gets to bash religion, and they used yesterday's topic on Jena 6 as an example. Had that poster been paying attention, they would have known that he was (as we all should be) upset, that only one Black church stood up, and allowed the people to gather and discuss the matter, and that in itself is a big issue to me. If the poster sees this as bashing religion, he or she has a problem. Mike was just keeping it real!!
Sinceresista
08-23-2007, 03:05 PM
Your right this post is about the senseless beating of a woman and its sad. I did comment about how sad it was and I also decided to add a message to Mike in the post. Unfortunate, people only seem to have been concern about what I said about Mike and not the article. But you are right, it is sad what happen to her and she is in my prayers.
Yes, They are both in my prayers.
hugs4u
08-23-2007, 03:05 PM
I KNOW WHY YOU STAYED©
Traci Kilgore-Poe 9/22/05
This Poem is dedicated to every sistah of every race and nation
†who has ever suffered
Physical, emotional, spiritual, or financial abuse
I know how it feels when the hits don't hurt no more
Cause you prepared yourself before he comes through the door
I know why you stayed
Cause the bruises no longer ache
And what's another bone he decides to brake
Can't even leave for the kid's sake
Sistah I know why you stayed
†
The yelling and calling you outta yo name
The punching bag you somehow became
The wanting to go but staying is insane
But sistah I know why you stayed
†
The black eyes and bruises †make up can no longer hide
The emptiness you always seem to feel inside
The wishing and praying for restoration of your pride
Sistah I know why you stayed
†
Cause see †he said you'll be nothing without him
And if you left he'd make sure your life would end
He'd kill you before the cops they'd send
Sistah I know why you stayed
†
Cause your self esteem is lower than low
You feel you have no place else to go
Belief in your self you no longer know
So Sistah I know why you stayed
†
See others can't begin to understand
The love once shared between you and your man
And maybe just maybe it could be that way again
Sistah I know why you stayed
†
Seems no healing for your spiritual Contusions
Even God loving you seems like an illusion
So staying seems your final conclusion
Sistah I know why you stayed
†
With his hands around your neck and your breath slipping away
You wonder if death will bring a brighter day
For peace of mind death seems a small price to pay
Sistah I know why you stayed
†
But I'm here to let you know a bit of good news
There is away out of your nightmarish blues
The price you've been paying is beyond your dues
But Sistah you no longer have to stay
†
They say till death do a husband and wife part
I no longer think that saying is very smart
Think about it
†
Till DEATH do you part
Till death do we PART
Till DEATH do YOU PART
The words have begin to break your heart
Sistah don't let death be the Part
Cause I'm one of the ones who found the courage to break away
For your life sake sister I pray
Please don't stay yet another day
†
……….But if you do
††††I KNOW WHY YOU STAYED !!!
carlew
08-23-2007, 03:06 PM
I feel this has everything to do with the church. This man is/was a bishop and he has followers that come to him with this same type of problem, what does he say to them? In addtion, I do not believe this is the first time he has hit her.
Bottom line, we had better do what is right and not depend on what pastor's tell us on Sunday mornings.
Niqueyorkcity
08-23-2007, 03:06 PM
I don't know what happen in the Case of Jaunita and Thomas. I do believe that men are beaten far worse by women. However the beating is not physical it's mental. Women beat men down mentally and it goes unpunished. I don't agree with mental or physical abuse, but we must take a look at the mental abuse not just the physical abuse.::(
vickiaqt2
08-23-2007, 03:07 PM
Michael,
Before I tell you who I am I would just like to say "You without sin, cast the first stone!" We are so quick to stone others but we all have "issues" that we are worthy of being stoned so before people cast blame and point an accusatory finger - look at the four fingers that are pointing at you. This is not the time to cast judgement on the Bishop Weeks - it is time to pray for him that he will seek wise counsel and that he will be restored and healed. Divorce and separation are hard issues to face. Emotionalism is prevalent.
I am a playwright of a very powerful play entitled "A Change Is Gonna Come" that deals with domestic violence in the church. For more information see www.forgiven2.com. I stated in my advertisement of the play a few months ago that it was time for the church to deal with this subject before it become a public powder keg that we can not ignore and now here we are......! God gave me this play a year ago while sitting in my bedroom as a revelation that this day would come..
I have a fictional character in my play entitled "Abuse". Here is a quote from my play:
"Make a decision to stop the cycle of domestic violence and abuse. Pull the covers off of the Enemy and expose him for who he really is – a liar, cheater, thief, and a murderer. Preachers, teachers, evangelists, religious leaders, first ladies, won’t you take the first step? Lead the way so that others may follow! Be a pioneer in the campaign for change. Stop the river of abuse from running to the next generation, and the next, and the next… End it TODAY! This is your opportunity to make a change come! Choose today, for tomorrow could very well be too late."
Preciouslyfe
08-23-2007, 03:12 PM
Hello,
I registered as a member just now so that I can say that not everyone in the church is ignorant or silent about Domestic Violence...or what happens AFTER the violence. I am so tired of everything being the fault of 'the church' if the bible says that 'we are the church' then....
Preciouslyfe (www.preciouslyfe.org) is a faith based (that's right I said the 'f' word) non-profit organization that started in 2002 by a woman in church who thought that there was no one to talk to!
I agree that we should not wag our heads in sheer disbelief as if it is unthinkable that a TV Evangelist... A Bishop....HUMANS could go through this. My heart goes out to BOTH of them and as one who speaks about DV....trust and believe this is NOT the first time that this has happend. As unfortunate as this situation is, the most unfortunate in my eyes is NOW people my talk about DV in church.
Preciouslyfe is committed to ending violence against women and their children by assisting women survivors as they recover from domestic violence and incarceration. PLM is located in Montgomery County Pennsylvania and we are excited that on October 20, 2007 we will be holding our first annual fundraiser, From Victims to Victorious! at Taylor's Olde Mill located at 200 West Marshall Street in Norristown, Pennsylvania. There will be a silent auction so if you would like to participate with a donation, feel free to review the Fashion Show page on our site.
D_bkny
08-23-2007, 03:13 PM
It is very unfortunate that their marriage has come to this, physical abuse. I just find it hard to believe that any man could raise his hand against the woman he once loved. (at this juncture I would think the love is lost) I have an ex-girlfriend and I would never think about hitting her. That relationship love may not be there, but I still love her as a friend and we're cool.
It's hard and sad to see women staying in abusive relationships. My question is, why do they stay?
Sandi
08-23-2007, 03:14 PM
People kill me with this Mike is just keeping it real. So why can't we keep it real with him. He askes us for our opinion weather we agree or disagree with him so I am giving mine. I was paying attention. It's funny that you commented on Mike, but didn't comment about the article. Where Jena 6 happen is a small town, they may not have that many churches there. Does he know all of the story as to why. I don't know how long you have been listening to Mike, but in the 4 years that I have been listening to him, he blames everything on the church. The church is not the only ones to do something. Where was the NAACP and other organizations. I was upset that no one was doing somethig about it, why just focus on the church.
And no I don't have a problem. Maybe you haven't been listening to him long or maybe have other intentions, since it seem like mostly women seem to be offended as to what I said about Mike. I wonder why.
One of the poster's was commenting that Mike takes every chance he gets to bash religion, and they used yesterday's topic on Jena 6 as an example. Had that poster been paying attention, they would have known that he was (as we all should be) upset, that only one Black church stood up, and allowed the people to gather and discuss the matter, and that in itself is a big issue to me. If the poster sees this as bashing religion, he or she has a problem. Mike was just keeping it real!!
hugs4u
08-23-2007, 03:14 PM
My name is Traci Kilgore-Poe and I am the founder of Women's House of HUGS ( Healing Under Grace & Safety) a private owned Transitional house for women recovering from abuse in Philadelphia... I am an abuse survivor my grandmother was not as fortunate and was murdered by my grandfather before he killed himself years before I was born... My dream and vision was to do for others what strong women such as my mother Loretta Kilgore and my God mother the late Mary "Omie" Jones did for me offered me a HUG without judgment or critisism but fillied with loving compassion. My prayers go out to Prophetess Bynum. I love Ilyanla Vanzant and we use her devotions each and everyday to up lift the 17 women who reside in the House of HUGS !!!
Peace and Bountiful blessings!!!
bburton5
08-23-2007, 03:15 PM
He was raised to be a respectable young man. There are two sides to every story. She very well may have provoked this attack. Remember, she followed him outside and apparently baggered him. We don't live in there household so we can only speculate on what really happened.
And how would you feel if your child was accused of beating his wife? His parents are upstanding members of the community and don't need to be hounded by the press or anyone else.
mbutler
08-23-2007, 03:16 PM
Whatever! I know this man and I'm telling you he never put his hands on me and I've had some seriously heated arguments with him. I say complicit because whether you want to admit or not women, well let me come from my perspective, SISTAHS can come out of their mouths in filthy vile ways sometimes specifically to provoke a man. One has to bear some responsibility for whatever the level of participation in this issue may have been. Juanita Bynum is no shrinking violet. To think that Tommy just snapped and she just let this man beat her down, well.... Sorry, there's more to it.
Again, I would never support him in wrongdoing. I'm simply saying defer judgement until all of the facts are known.
Cheryl1
08-23-2007, 03:19 PM
I know this is not the subject but Iwant to know who is the lady that sings this song It's gonna be allright.
mojala
08-23-2007, 03:19 PM
I think we also need to pray that he does not do any harm to himself, there are many cases where the person that does the hurt can't handle the type of heat he will get from all this if he turn his self in. Now that he has done this and now on the airwave he know that he can loose everything he work so hard to get and might not be able to handle this. I understand folks anger about this but no one want to end this with another tragedy, we already had one with him beating his wife and I'm sure she or we wound not want to find out that he took his life over this. What he did was weak, but I'm sure he knows what he has done was weak and yes it was wrong, the right thing is to turn yourself in but I do understand why the lady said why she pray for him.
sferguson
08-23-2007, 03:22 PM
My father abused my mother. I found this out when my brother and were going through her things and found pictures of her with two black eyes, a busted nose and a busted lip. Right then and there, we vowed that if we ever saw him we would kill him. We were young then, you know. In 1981 we received a letter that he was murdered in Baltimore by brothers of a woman who he had severely beaten. It was the happiest day of my life because before this news we lived in fear of him coming back and terrorizing us.
With this on my heart still, I wrote about it in my novel Rockin Robin, which is about a girl who's mother was abused while she was pregnant with her, Robin. While in the womb she felt the anxiety that her mother felt and as a result she was born with a second personality, later identified as Rockin Robin. It takes you through the abuse that they both were subjected to at the hands of this man and the damage that it did to the both of them.
This book was therapeutic for me. It was a release and lifted a huge burden off of my heart. My heart goes out to Mrs. Bynum!
Cheryl1
08-23-2007, 03:22 PM
I have not had the honor to meet her but I have had the pleasure of hearing her speak and sing. I feel so sorry for her and it truly does not matter what she did it could not have warrented such a response. It is a coward who raises his hand to a woman. My prayers go out to them both. But it does happen to women everyday and this is an issue that needs to be addressed.
This is an example for all those who think they need a "man of the cloth" to pray them. As you all can see, that Bishop is only a man that may have been held in high regards. These people of the cloth are just actors in a game of life.
He should be a real man and turned himself in. I bet this was not the first time he "buss her ass." It's just that she got beaten in public this time. So what have we learnt. Pray for your damn selves and don't feel that you need someone else to act on your behalf to have a conversation with G-D.
Hence the reason why I don't go to church. Too much decadence in churches. And I can't deal with the hyprocracy. So, Bishop Weeks turn yourself in. And as you know, when you shed a few crocodile tears the congregation will forgive you. Remember Jimmy Swaggart.
one-cute-bap
08-23-2007, 03:26 PM
Mike you gotta check this out at
www.allinthenameofgod.com
This documentary features actual ministers talking about abuse that go's on in churches today. It also has some victims telling there story.
Most Important it offers helps to both the victim and the person giving the abuse.
Mike check it out
www.allinthenameofgod.com
Cman126
08-23-2007, 03:27 PM
Hey everyone.
I know that this situation is not making any scense to anyone right now. But what we as Christians need not to do is become judemental towards him. No his actions are not right and yes he does need to turn himself in to take care of the situation. But what we need not to do is now turn our backs on him and talk about him like a dog. The bible says that we all have sinned and falledn short of his glory. And that's what has happened here. He has done something that is not morally or sprititually right, but that does not mean that we should bash him and make him into a harden criminal.
Yes he is hidding and has not turned himself in, but that a expected reaction. And who's to say that no one is trying to get him to turn himself in. We need to stop jumping to conclusions and pray that God will touch his heart and that he will do the right thing to take care of this situaion.
So I urge all pastors, preachers, and saint's of God to not judge our brother and pray for him that God will correct his wrong.
As for Prohetess Bynum, my prayers are with her and I pray that this even will not scare her and that God will heal the wonds of this event. I applaude her for not responding negatively about the situation and we all need to do as she has done and say "This too shall pass" and leave it alone. Yes we can talk about the issue..but do ont make it that he is the only one who has done this...do not make it as though all High Profile preachers do things like this...and most importantly let's not make him the poster child for this topic or issue....cause if we do that...we will never get those who are lost and are seeking God to trust in anyone.
one-cute-bap
08-23-2007, 03:28 PM
Mike you gotta check this out at
www.allinthenameofgod.com
This documentary features actual ministers talking about abuse that go's on in churches today. It also has some victims telling there story.
Most Important it offers helps to both the victim and the person giving the abuse.
Mike check it out
www.allinthenameofgod.com
sferguson
08-23-2007, 03:28 PM
Unfortunately, we as women want to recitify situations right then and there. I've had to learn that not everyone can do that. Some people need to digest things and walk away. Others like myself in the past, need instant conflict resolution. Doesn't work for everyone, you know.
MsRSWhite
08-23-2007, 03:30 PM
Family, we are definitely in a time of high-water spiritual warfare. Where there is great potential for one to be used by God, there is great opposition from the enemy. Now I believe that Bishop weeks needs to come forth and seek help for the rage (spiritual war) inside him. Likewise, Sister Weeks needs counseling and support.
Bottom line, it appears that relationships are under great attack. It seems as if people are doing things they wish not do. Paul speaks of this in one of his letters in the Bible. Prayer, is necessary, and counseling/working toward healing is essential.
In short, let us pray for the Lord's presence to bring forth healing.
Blessed assurance,
RSW
sheilasosoft
08-23-2007, 03:30 PM
My heart goes out to Prophetess Bynum and I am praying that her estranged husband come out of "hiding" and to stop being the "coward" that he is. For him to be a man of the cloth, he has violated his stature with God, his wife, and to all of the african american men that looked up to him and his position.
Prophetess Bynum is an icon in my eyes. My Pastor Reverend Zavette Smallwood of the Bronx has a "inferno" in her belly that reminds me of Prophetess Bynum and I am praying for her.
I pray that Reverend Weeks will do the right thing and turn himself in. Regardless of the situation, he is wrong for putting his hand on a woman in the first place. The right thing for him to do is to come forth and face his "math".
God Bless you, Michael Baisden, for having this topic on the forum and allowing the public to express their thoughts and feelings on such an outrageous topic.
Sheila Blunt
of the Bronx
Venus56
08-23-2007, 03:32 PM
I would like to say that I don't believe that a Bishop could do such a horrible thing to someone, however, I have come to realize through others talking about abusive relationships within the walls of the church beginning with the pastors. I knew a woman who was almost killed by her extremely abusive minister husband and the church members looked the other way as she attended church regularly with bruises. No only did he abuse her physically who also dated half the church. The point that I am trying to make is that we must all get involved in these types of matters. If we spent more time helping eachother this world would be a much safer place. Men and Women need to stop minding your business, because Juanita Bynum could have been your mother, sister, daugher, grandmother, aunt, granddaughter or cousin. Ladies, she could have been you. If anyone knows where he is turn him in. If you have any affiliation with this man, please discontinue. The first step for him in becoming a man is to step up, come out of hiding and apologize. If he can't do that than we should stop giving him any financial support. If he doesn't make this right I and many others would like to know who his business supporters are so that we can stop the financial flow. He obviously didn't care about his wife, nor embarassing his church, so I am hoping that we can get his attention and force him to get the help he needs. If he doesn't get help GOD only knows what will happen to next woman that trys to talk to him. others would like to know who his business supporters are so that we can stop the financial flow. He obviously didn't care about his wife, nor embarrassing his church, so I am hoping that we can get his attention and force him to get the help he needs. If he doesn't get help GOD only knows what will happen to next woman that attempt to talk to him.
I would like to close by saying that the victim has done nothing wrong.
sexybrainiac
08-23-2007, 03:33 PM
He was raised to be a respectable young man. There are two sides to every story. She very well may have provoked this attack. Remember, she followed him outside and apparently baggered him. We don't live in there household so we can only speculate on what really happened.
And how would you feel if your child was accused of beating his wife? His parents are upstanding members of the community and don't need to be hounded by the press or anyone else.
Even if she cursed him, even if she shoved him....whatever she did, DID IT WARRANT HIM BEATING HER LIKE A DOG???? He beat her like she was NOTHING to him and supposedly they were trying to reconcile.
As a GROWN man, you have NO BUSINESS beating on a woman PERIOD. When will men get that????
pricelesspanties
08-23-2007, 03:33 PM
This is the reason why so many people can't go to the church for help. or they are leaving the church. anytime you can't get delivered from some things like this within the church, then where do you go. Where do a man go if he want help from abusing his wife, not the church cause you see it is happening in the church.
How can you teach me on how to love my husband or teach my husband how to love me if you are not doing it. My pastor told me that if he as a Pastor is beating his wife, then you better believe his deacon or associate minister will or is doing the same thing, because the blessings and cursings flow from the head down.
i am writing a TV mini-series on "The Secrets Within" i want to know why do so many people attend church, shout in church, cry and run all over the church and then get home and get abused or do the abusing, or can't get along with their spouse in private as well as public, abusing their children.
THE SECRETS WITHIN NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED
PRICELESSPANTIES
mbutler
08-23-2007, 03:36 PM
My last comment is that when bad things happen, things that are uncharacteristic of you wouldn't you want someone to stand up and say "That's not so and so" or "That doesn't sound like so and so".
Keep in mind: 1) He has not spoken about the situation yet and 2) He initially walked away and she followed him. That at the very least says there is more to the story.
sexybrainiac
08-23-2007, 03:36 PM
A REAL man will not beat his woman IN PUBLIC (stomping, kicking, etc) FOR NOTHING. Violence against another is illegal and NOT ACCEPTABLE. Please know that when a man can GO THAT FAR and IN PUBLIC, he has already been abusing in private in other ways as well. SO STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE BY BLAMING HER FOR HIS ACTIONS!!!!
vlpryor
08-23-2007, 03:38 PM
I hope they find this man, I am very proud of you bad boy, because you have put him out there, man of GOD or not he deserves whatever is coming to him. Again you have touch the issues that nobody else will. Why have radio if you can't keep it real. What you are discussing today, could save someone else tonight.
sexybrainiac
08-23-2007, 03:39 PM
Hey everyone.
I know that this situation is not making any scense to anyone right now. But what we as Christians need not to do is become judemental towards him. No his actions are not right and yes he does need to turn himself in to take care of the situation. But what we need not to do is now turn our backs on him and talk about him like a dog. The bible says that we all have sinned and falledn short of his glory. And that's what has happened here. He has done something that is not morally or sprititually right, but that does not mean that we should bash him and make him into a harden criminal.
Yes he is hidding and has not turned himself in, but that a expected reaction. And who's to say that no one is trying to get him to turn himself in. We need to stop jumping to conclusions and pray that God will touch his heart and that he will do the right thing to take care of this situaion.
So I urge all pastors, preachers, and saint's of God to not judge our brother and pray for him that God will correct his wrong.
As for Prohetess Bynum, my prayers are with her and I pray that this even will not scare her and that God will heal the wonds of this event. I applaude her for not responding negatively about the situation and we all need to do as she has done and say "This too shall pass" and leave it alone. Yes we can talk about the issue..but do ont make it that he is the only one who has done this...do not make it as though all High Profile preachers do things like this...and most importantly let's not make him the poster child for this topic or issue....cause if we do that...we will never get those who are lost and are seeking God to trust in anyone.
This promonent couple makes it more visible but certainly doesn't make it less real or less repulsive.
elainet2
08-23-2007, 03:44 PM
i am rapidly becoming a regular listener of the "bad boy" show and the only thing i have to say about minister bashing is "IF THE SHOE FITS". God does not sleep SLEEP.
D_bkny
08-23-2007, 03:46 PM
I'm not sure if you were refering this to me, my first response was relevant to the article. My other responses were to those who responded to me. Regardless, I just giving my opinions and I am entitled to them.
That post from sexy was meant for geo...
Raubercourt
08-23-2007, 03:47 PM
This is probably not the 1st time that bishop Weeks has done this, however this maybe the 1st time we are hearing about this type of altercation publicly between him and Prophetess Bynum. I will be praying for her!
Cman126
08-23-2007, 03:50 PM
I am not saying that what he did is justifiable....cause I agree no man should put his hand on a women...I agree...but what I am saying is that let's not make it an issue as to where people feel that they can't go to their pastor or church for help related to this topic....it's jsut unfortunate that he was a pastor and she is one too.....everyone is human...I don't care if it was my father...yes he would be wrong...but what's being done now is that everyone is calling in and writing and saying that pastors and preachers are not preaching truth because he did this.....we don't know what provoked him...but that's not to say that all preachers or pastors are like that...or for that matter do things like this.....but what is happening from this is that we are going lose folks from seeking God for help...and that's should not be the case...
honchest
08-23-2007, 03:52 PM
I cannot stand to hear about another woman being beaten by a man.
this is all to common, and all to overlooked. Men need to check themselves
before they wreck themselves. I was once abused, know what I did....Moved the Hell away.
madasallgetout
08-23-2007, 03:52 PM
No REAL MAN should never put his hands on a woman
Spiritgirl
08-23-2007, 03:53 PM
There is no justification for abuse, period. This is not a religious issue,
this is about right wrong. He needs counseling and so does she. Pray
about it- but get to stepping. And for those people that say to forgive
forgiveness does not mean that she still needs to have him in her face.
Glynnis P
08-23-2007, 03:54 PM
Ms. Bynum had to suffer so public a downfall, due to her so public fraud she commits against all that find their source of inspiration through her teachings.
From the neck up, there is nothing that separates her look from the look of the females in the strip clubs.
That "cinderella wedding" she had, who paid for it? The people in the community that if they saved from now till eternity, wouldn't be able to afford 1/4 of what that wedding cost.
On a earlier radio show, a caller stated that her first marriage ended due to the same reasonings.
I guess it's back to "No More Sheets" for Ms. Bynum. Stop the FRUAD, and maybe the Creator will bless you with someone that's truly for you.
pgate9
08-23-2007, 03:56 PM
It is being reported on the news that he has been charged!
G4BID
08-23-2007, 03:58 PM
My prayers go out to both Juanita Bynum and Thomas Weeks. "I do not condone a man hitting a woman." But, we don't know what transpired to bring this type of behavior out. What we do know, that there was a heated discussion and Mr. Weeks, did leave. What transpired next is great travesty! Not only to the religious community, but to our people, to culture, as a whole.
What we fail to realize is 1st, that Mr. Weeks, regardless of his title, is HUMAN FIRST. That means, that he is of FLESH....And anyone being of flesh, has issues and problems.
We all need counseling in our lives to over the issues that plague us, as a people. We should not take the opportunity to alienate anyone. Because Jesus himself, had issues while being in the FLESH...
But what we don't know, is tests and trails will come. But it is not the test or the trail, but what we do to get through it. So, let us all pray for them and not judge them...
SilentProphet
08-23-2007, 03:58 PM
Abuse can be both physical and emotional. There is no telling what type of abuse he silently endured. As a man we are expect to endure such things. Everyone has there breaking point.
LadyC1964
08-23-2007, 03:59 PM
:( As a minister of Christ, we have a responsibility to lead by example. Although I am deeply saddened by this, justice must be served. Bishop Weeks is still a man, he is not a god, and yes he broke the law. I pray for them both, but wrong is wrong. I was a battered wife over 16 years ago and my heart goes out to Prophetess Bynum-Weeks, but he has got to go to jail and get help. Running and hiding is the example of a punk, he needs to man-up and face his own demons and turn himself in!:mad: If he claims to be a man of God, do the right thing and turn yourself in !!!!!:mad: :mad:
I do co-sign with Silent Prophet, but he must do the right thing on this!
kennedyjones
08-23-2007, 04:00 PM
Ms. Bynum had to suffer so public a downfall, due to her so public fraud she commits against all that find their source of inspiration through her teachings.
From the neck up, there is nothing that separates her look from the look of the females in the strip clubs.
That "cinderella wedding" she had, who paid for it? The people in the community that if they saved from now till eternity, wouldn't be able to afford 1/4 of what that wedding cost.
On a earlier radio show, a caller stated that her first marriage ended due to the same reasonings.
I guess it's back to "No More Sheets" for Ms. Bynum. Stop the FRUAD, and maybe the Creator will bless you with someone that's truly for you.
Do you have any evidence of this so called fraud or are you blindly making accusations?
Futhermore are you insinuating that her lifestyle of "fraud" has anything to do with her being beat down??
sharhonda75
08-23-2007, 04:00 PM
You know a woman can forgive but they surely don't forget. I would say this man needs to watch his back. He may not get his right now but he will eventually get it from somewhere. Whether it comes from the courts or from the man up above he will pay for this somehow.
LisaRay
08-23-2007, 04:01 PM
I really sympathasize witht his woman of God and I have no sympathy whatsoever for the Bishop. Too often us Black Christians allow these Pastors to get away with anything and everything. They must be accountable also. Do an advanced Google search of Joel Anthony Ward, and read about how his choir director has a restraining order against him for threatning her liefe because he got her pregnant. She taped the threats and was issued a restraining order. He refuses to resign or even admit he did anything wrong, yet its on tape. He pastors a once large church in Los Angeles and the churchis going to finally have a vote as to whether or not he should stay on this Sunday. pray that they do the right thing. He truly needs help. This story has been covered in the Wave News paper, a black Los Angeles, Community news paper. Below is a link to some of the stories about him. God Bless you Evangelist Juanita..
http://www.wavenewspapers.com/link.asp?smenu=91&sdetail=5891&wpage=1
http://www.wavenewspapers.com/link.asp?smenu=73&sdetail=5929&wpage=1
http://www.wavenewspapers.com/link.asp?smenu=73&sdetail=5973&wpage=1
dlmnr@yahoo.com
08-23-2007, 04:01 PM
Sister I pray for you and your husband I have been saved for 5 years and I use to watch you on television I always pray to the Lord to just drop A little of your strength into my spirit you have been through so very much and yet you still stands I watched you give A shoe covenant to bT.D.Jakes on the prodigal daughter and I cried I saw you in no more sheets,also woman thou art loosed with your father in christ T.D.Jakes and also Bishop Noel Jones I want you to know that the Lord has put an undying fire in you do not allow the enemy to take we must look at everyday as A new beginning cause Christ allows us to know that the battle is not ours but, it belongs to him you just continue to praise the Lord the way you always have and trust and believe he will make your enemy your footstool.Many people confuse marriage as that little piece of paper that we recieve it really is not it is what & who we carry in our hearts.
sharhonda75
08-23-2007, 04:03 PM
Yes, everyone does have a breaking point but there is still no justification for laying hands on someone. You have to learn to control your anger someone has to be the "ADULT".
mrslai1227
08-23-2007, 04:04 PM
Mike I just thank you for doing this show, it always takes a powerhouse to bring attention to something that has been going on for years. No one deserves to be beaten. It is my hope that inshallah more sisters will come forward and raise there hands and say this cannot happen any more. I live in Los Angeles in Watts and I see it all the time and it has almost become "alright" to walk around beat up! oh gurl he loves me. NO HE DOES NOT! AND YOU DON'T LOVE YOU EITHER. I understand it is hard to get out, and Iyana said it best put some money away so if you have to leave or you want to leave you can. I have been there and I am on the otherside now, it was not easy but our daughter is now 15 and she understands why I left and she writes about me being her hero. Thank you Michael for doing this show.
greenebean
08-23-2007, 04:06 PM
FYI. This is Ms. Bynum's second marriage. She has mentioned that her 1st husband was abusive as well. I don't want to justify what these men have done, but let's get both sides of the story. She may not be all that she portrays to be....To be perfectly honest, I know that I have been provoked to slap the S*** out of someone, but I restrained myself and remove myself from that negative person/situation. Maybe that's what these men should have done.
peanut44
08-23-2007, 04:08 PM
I have been listening to Mike's show going on 3 years now, and I believe I know his intentions on each show he does. When he does shows like "Pimps in the Pulpit", it is NOT to cruxcify (sp) ministers, or to discourage anyone from attending church. He is very CLEAR on his comments, and if you are paying attention, then you would know that he always says "most, not all" ministers are pimps. I believe his intentions are to wake up alot of people that are giving away their hard earned money to these "pimps in the pulpits" and to be ware. Put them on blast!!! Also, he has had many ministers on his show, showing that there are some really good ministers that care about their members, their church, and more so, their community.
P.S., I'm a 49 y/o black male, who like thousands other black males, enjoy the shoW....and that's KEEPING IT REAL!!!
cah1206
08-23-2007, 04:08 PM
and he had nothing to do with her birth? I don't understand even her father or mother who had everything to do with her birth has no right to beat her. :eek:
samuelsl74
08-23-2007, 04:09 PM
I am truely sorry this has had to happen to someone so inspirational to everyone that listens to her. I do understand that a lot of people are very upset by this, so many times people that are abused by someone they love have a very hard time getting out of this type of situation.
I myself was once a victim of domestic violence, my ex-husband held me and my three children hostage in the house for a day and once I was able to leave I was too afraid to get out because I thought he might come and hurt us. Later on it took him almost killing me in front of my children and my niece and her children, for me to decide to leave. And if it had not been for my neighbor across the street stepping in and stopping him, I would be dead today.
Jazzman21
08-23-2007, 04:10 PM
My prayers go out to Bishop and Prophetess. This just shows how busy the enemy is. Their ministry influences a lot of people, and if he can get believers to question their faithfulness, he thinks he can win. The battle has already been won. Saints, put on your armour and stay encouraged because non-believers will try to use this as an excuse not to follow God, this is where your ministry and witnessing is needed. This is not just an attack on the christian family, but especially the black family. Mature saints, I encourage you to step up and explain to those babes in Christ that God's message does not change. These people are just that, "people", and they have people issues. Do not let this become a tool of the enemy to destroy the family.
Arizona19
08-23-2007, 04:10 PM
I'm a survivor of an abusive relationship, and that was the catalyst needed for me to shifted the paridigm in the way I raised my daughter and change my lemon into lemondade. It was imperative for her to learn self defense before she was allowed to live on her own. Now she is 27, she had a baby last Jan and got her Masters that July. I also took self defense. Pls understand I'm not advocating violence. It is our responsibilty especially as Sistas to defend this precious blessing of life. This is not for the purpose of going toe-to-toe with your assailent but to get him/her of of you, get away and get help. So I implore Sistas that you get your daughters and yourselves enrolled in self defense classes. Now undestand that this does not solve the issue this is just to protect your lives until you can get the proper help.
Collectively, we should band together,whether it be our sista circle, brother circles, churches, clubs, frats etc and make ourselves available to go to the aid of the troubled couple at that crucial time of need to diffuse the situation and to help them seek cousel.
I know it works because I was blessed to get that support from my Sistas and Brother from my Temple.
cah1206
08-23-2007, 04:11 PM
and he had nothing to do with her birth? I don't understand even her father or mother who had everything to do with her birth has no right to beat her.
Ms. Gena
08-23-2007, 04:11 PM
My heart goes out to Prophetess Bynum. She has been a true inspiration to my life. As for Bishop Weeks, I have no words other than he is held at a higher level for his actions and not only will he have to deal with police, but he will deal with God or should I say God will surely deal with him. This is the reason i'm single and don't want a man. I would much rather be alone than deal with the BS.
MrMedia
08-23-2007, 04:12 PM
When I turned on the radio and heard this I was shocked, having two parent that are ministers and this really hurt.
Juanita Bynum is a stong woman, and it`s funny I heard her say when she got married that "If this marriage don`t work I`m still going to preach and it was a lession" I get it know! WOW
She will come out on top of this, and she will teach and preach on this after the hurt passes.
cah1206
08-23-2007, 04:12 PM
He needs to re-read his own book ~~ Teach me how to love you
AMEN to that........
mr.texas
08-23-2007, 04:14 PM
Thats ridiculous Im only 19 years old but I promise I will never put my hand on a woman I wouldnt want anyone to put their hands on my mama so for that reason I won't
Yummy804
08-23-2007, 04:21 PM
Once again another discouraging event in the church. It's also discouraging to the single women who became so Empowered by her teachings. Here is a women who expressed being abused in the past only to fall back into the same trap.A prime example of why we need to stay humble because we ALL have issues. That high profile wedding has nothing on the coverage this will get. You could see the changes in her after the marriage .She was too strong ,she probably could argue him down and belittle him with her forceful voice,he saw this as a way to break her down literally. This too shall pass but the damage is done.
Cman126
08-23-2007, 04:21 PM
I will say this again..and I am done...
We need to be careful of the things we say and do. Bishop Weeks I pray that you will allow God to heal the hurt that you are dealing with and get the necessary help needed.
Prohetess Bynum, I pray that you will be able to move forward from this. You are a mighty women of God. You have been here before, and you overcame it and I know that God will bring you through this again.
I pray that the people of God will continue to stand with Both Bishop Weeks and Prohetess Bynum, and not turn their backs on either on of them. No matter how you feel about this situation. We as chrisitians can't be judgemental and point the finger. We need to do what God has ordained us to do. PRAY for our brother and our sister, and place them both in God's hand. That's all we can do.
2messedup
08-23-2007, 04:23 PM
He's a punk.The devil can only operate in people you allow to be close to you. To stomp someone you gotta really be considering them worthless. How can you stomp someone you love?!?! He had to be pulled off of her!Anyway,at some point he lost his mind.I had a guy beat me when I was 25.It all came back to me when I was reading the article.The only reason I would go back to him-if I were her-was so I could make sure he died when THE NEXT TIME I TRIED TO KILL HIM!Obviously I still need deliverance.Cause I'd have a prison ministry FOR REAL after that. .....Then he ran away.The police are looking for him-I guess he went to revise his will. He has a young daughter,how humiliating is that for her. Like I said he's a punk. :mad:
royalt1677
08-23-2007, 04:24 PM
Intimate Partner abuse is far too common. It affects those in the church as equally as those out of the church. I am a survivor of an abusive relationship that started when I was a teenager (13) to a preachers kid. I remained in that relationship intil I was 27. Some of it was out of love but mostly because I had a low self esteem. I had more verbal and emotional abuse than physical but the physical abuse impacts me today. I didn't leave the relationship until I was tired and I feared not seeing old age.
The sad part of abuse is that victims are often quiet because they don't want to be judged. Unless you have been in the situation you cannot understand the emotional turmoil an abused woman goes through. The abuser gets protected because they can be extremely charming. The survivors like myself make it out when they find the strength and are just plane tired. But as victims and survivors we have to learn to speak up and seek help.
Parents talk to your girls early. If you suspect it, ask. My family suspected for a long time but never asked. I hope this will help someone. I am one of the blessed ones. It took God's strength and years of counseling to get to a peaceful place but it can be done. I even give back by volunteering at a shelter for women escaping abusive relationships. Talk to your girls, Please!
Under no circumstances should a man put his hands on a woman, no matter what she say out of her mouth. He beat and kicked her like a dog in the street. He may not be the the batter you know, but he certainly now is the batter the world knows....Stop defending an abuser.
Cman126
08-23-2007, 04:28 PM
He's a punk.The devil can only operate in people you allow to be close to you. To stomp someone you gotta really be considering them worthless. How can you stomp someone you love?!?! He had to be pulled off of her!Anyway,at some point he lost his mind.I had a guy beat me when I was 25.It all came back to me when I was reading the article.The only reason I would go back to him-if I were her-was so I could make sure he died when THE NEXT TIME I TRIED TO KILL HIM!Obviously I still need deliverance.Cause I'd have a prison ministry FOR REAL after that. .....Then he ran away.The police are looking for him-I guess he went to revise his will. He has a young daughter,how humiliating is that for her. Like I said he's a punk. :mad:
I don't see how you can say that..and I am praying that God heals you from you pass hurt as well...cause to say that he needs to die and that she needs to do it is real sad.....and that's crazy how people who say they believe in God's word would say anything like this....the last thing we would want to see is him hurt or dead.....he needs help...pray that God help's him.....
whatif
08-23-2007, 04:33 PM
Yes, it's bad what Bishop Weeks appears to have done.(Innocent until proven guilty) But, could Dr. Bynum-Weeks have been running her mouth too much and pushed Bishop Weeks to the point of no return? After all he walked away and SHE chased after him. Possibly still running her mouth. Hmmmm:rolleyes:
Pray for both of them, they are only human. Let he without sin........
Sick of Church Folks
08-23-2007, 04:34 PM
I've tried to give all of these preachers a fair shake but this takes the cake. 2 preachers involved in a tragedy that, I am sure, they've 'counseled' other married couples against. And she is suppose to be the very essence of a 'strong black woman'.
All this stuff and much more (I mean, you just can't make up the stuff going on in these churches) are detailed in the documentary titled All in the Name of God (www.allinthenameofgod.com).
CHECK IT OUT FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!!
It also shows what signs to look for as far as abusive church leaders go. As stated above, I am SICK OF CHURCH FOLKS and this documentary helps further my argument!!
cheetorah
08-23-2007, 04:36 PM
It is so ironic that I was just arguing with an older person about the church misleading men on how to be husbands. I've been in church all of my life, all of it. And in my 26 years, I have heard numerous sermons on what women should be doing, and what women ought to do, and how wives should be submissive to husbands. I've even been in situations where a young woman who got pregnant from wedlock had to apologize before the church, and the young man was not required to do so!
I've seen many instances in the church where women were being beaten, and it was actually older women who told them to stay there and pray. They are quick to quote Bible verses on women's submissiveness, the strict commands that Jesus gives against divorce, and how women should turn to their husbands with reverence.
It's funny that I've never heard any sermons on what a husband should do, and how he should behave. It was only last week that I stumbled across 1 Peter 3:7 that tells a husband to honor his wife lest his prayers go unheard. I shared it with my mother. She said she'd never heard that in church, and she's been going all of her life. She's 55.
kennedyjones
08-23-2007, 04:37 PM
Yes, it's bad what Bishop Weeks appears to have done.(Innocent until proven guilty) But, could Dr. Bynum-Weeks have been running her mouth too much and pushed Bishop Weeks to the point of no return? After all he walked away and SHE chased after him. Possibly still running her mouth. Hmmmm:rolleyes:
Pray for both of them, they are only human.
WHY DID YOU SAY THIS? WHY ? WHY ? WHY? THEY FIXIN TO CUSS YOU OUT ... :rolleyes:
thepreacherishere
08-23-2007, 04:38 PM
I am a minister, and i will indeed say that there are times that we all get angry. As a matter of fact the bible teaches " Be ye angry, but sin not". Beating of ones spouse is a sin. Especially, when the husband is supossed to LOVE HIS WIFE AS CHRIST LOVED THE CHURCH. This situation between The Weeks family has been going on since day one of their marriage. Go back and look at TBN at some of the shows they were hosting together, and you will see where she talks about how their disagreements turned violent. Now is the time for all of us to pray for this family. Also, HUSBANDS, LETS LOVE OUR WIVES, AND TREAT THEM LIKE THE QUEENS THEY ARE. My prayers go out to Juanita Bynum, and every other battered and abused wife. And I also pray for the husbands who do the abusing. Get your act together.
Cman126
08-23-2007, 04:39 PM
I've tried to give all of these preachers a fair shake but this takes the cake. 2 preachers involved in a tragedy that, I am sure, they've 'counseled' other married couples against. And she is suppose to be the very essence of a 'strong black woman'.
All this stuff and much more (I mean, you just can't make up the stuff going on in these churches) are detailed in the documentary titled All in the Name of God (www.allinthenameofgod.com).
CHECK IT OUT FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!!
It also shows what signs to look for as far as abusive church leaders go. As stated above, I am SICK OF CHURCH FOLKS and this documentary helps further my argument!!
I take it that you are not saved....and I am going to even further by saying this....people need to realize that "church folks" are human first...alot of preachers and pastors became pastors and preachers from past life experiences that God has brought them from...and the fact remains that we all have our faults and ahve hurt someone in our life...that does not say that God can't use them to preach to his people....so now matter what happened before that does not say that the church is corrupt and that pastors and preachers are not preaching God's word...
2messedup
08-23-2007, 04:43 PM
I don't see how you can say that..and I am praying that God heals you from you pass hurt as well...cause to say that he needs to die and that she needs to do it is real sad.....and that's crazy how people who say they believe in God's word would say anything like this....the last thing we would want to see is him hurt or dead.....he needs help...pray that God help's him.....
Thanks,and I know you mean well,but have you ever had a man beat you like a dog and put you in the hospital? He must be stopped.....maybe he did it before and was reported before....Sooo much is easier said than done.I don't like verbal,mental,or physical abuse.I hate when people get away with it,being allowed to continually do it to another and another again....I can relate first hand-and it was many years ago. Only when it happened to me,it was my word against his. So he totally got away with it.If the bellhop didn't intervene for Juanita Bynum,she could have been killed.Choked her kicked her stomped her.......I don't know how you wuld take it if it happened to you:mad:
UNBEATABLEFOE
08-23-2007, 04:45 PM
Prayer changes things, Let's all Pray
janb12281
08-23-2007, 04:46 PM
Domestic abuse is a very serious issue. I wish more people understood the long term effects of abuse. I am 44 years old and getting help now for issues that I have now from the abuse I suffered at the hands of my father and my brothers as a child, and a teen. I waited so long to admit to what had happened because so many people don't understand that this is something that can effect you for years and years and years, and too many times I was told it's in the past, get over it. It's not that easy. The scars go so much deeper than the external bruises, and the hurt never goes away.
Janeen
08-23-2007, 04:46 PM
The craving human nature has to understand the reason for, “why” will only result in frustration and despair because the craving is insatiable. For those peering through the outer wall of this devastating event, closure and satisfaction will come when the Only True God is trusted to utilize His resources, both natural and spiritual, to care for His children at their request.
For those on the inside of this seemingly un-scalable wall, “why” will provide one starting point along the many necessary paths needed to travel to reach wholeness and healing but these paths can only be trod by those individuals (individually), through the disciplined hard-work of soul searching, brutal, honesty.
I lived a life of “suffering in silence” at the hands of a Sr. Pastor for…too long. I don’t say that to color the incident with my perspective that this was the situation for Sis. Bynum-Weeks, but to say that healing can come as I am a witness..and that healing will come, if they abandon themselves to trusting in the God of the Bible that they profess to know.
Seeks God's face on their behalf and pray for them, family!
Cman126
08-23-2007, 04:49 PM
Thanks,and I know you mean well,but have you ever had a man beat you like a dog and put you in the hospital? He must be stopped.....maybe he did it before and was reported before....Sooo much is easier said than done.I don't like verbal,mental,or physical abuse.I hate when people get away with it,being allowed to continually do it to another and another again....I can relate first hand-and it was many years ago. Only when it happened to me,it was my word against his. So he totally got away with it.If the bellhop didn't intervene for Juanita Bynum,she could have been killed.Choked her kicked her stomped her.......I don't know how you wuld take it if it happened to you:mad:
To answer your question...I am a male and have been abused and beat my my foster parents homes that I was in and I was sexually asulted by males in the homes I have been in...but the bottom line is this...I have a God that I believe in.....yes it hurt me...and yes...I still have thoughts from it...but what I did not do was speak evil on the people that did it.....and that's all I am saying...we need to pray for him...and for those who have been in this type of situation or any kind of abuse....yes seek help...and then pray and ask God to heal them and help them.....hating on them and casting judgement will not change a person....but Praying will...
dee@SC
08-23-2007, 04:52 PM
It is truly a sad day. As a Christian woman this behavior is unacceptable by any person in or out of the church. However,a young man doesn't wake up,and decide to be an abuser it is a learned behavior. Surely, this isn't the first time he has done this, but he just became bold with it this time.. Pray for them both, and pray for her as a woman whose feelings, and pride have been bruised. I was a victim of abuse, and I got out because he didn't change. REV. JUANITA BYNUM 'SAVAGELY' BEATEN BY BISHOP THOMAS WEEKS
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Famed televangelist suffers domestic abuse from minister husband.
August 23, 2007
It was only yesterday in EUR's Gospel Pages that we broke the news of 48-year-old Juanita Bynum playing the part of a twenty something TV producer in the upcoming movie "Mama I Want to Sing."
Now comes the news that the televangelist, known for her fiery and frank sermons about women's empowerment have won her a national following, got the crap beat out of her by her husband who's also a minister!
Atlanta police say Bynum, became the victim of domestic abuse after her husband, Bishop Thomas Weeks, savagely beat her in a hotel parking lot Tuesday night-Wednesday morning.
It has also come to light that Rev. Bynum and Bishop Weeks are in the middle of a separation. Apparently the two agreed to meet in the dining room of the Renaissance Hotel near Hartsfield-Jackson airport to try and work out their differences.
The meeting reportedly did not go well and ended with Bishop Weeks leaving abruptly. Reverend Bynum followed him to the parking lot where the two exchanged words, says a Bynum relative.
Then, according to an Atlanta Police Department report, Weeks allegedly attacked her. In a statement to police, Bynum said Weeks, "choked her, pushed her down, kicked her and stomped her in the Renaissance parking lot."
A bellhop at the hotel saw the attack, stepped in and stopped it, says officer Ron Campbell of the APD.
Rev. Bynum was taken to a local hospital and treated for multiple bruises and swelling. She's being kept an undisclosed location.
At EUR press time, police were searching for Bishop Thomas Weeks.
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Husband attacks evangelist Bynum in parking lot
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Juanita Bynum, a preacher whose fiery and frank sermons about women's empowerment have won her a national following, was attacked by her husband in the parking lot of an Atlanta hotel early Wednesday morning, police said.
Bynum, whose ministry is based in Waycross, and her estranged husband, Thomas W. Weeks III, had met up at Renaissance Concourse Hotel near Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport to try to reconcile, Atlanta police said.
But while at the parking lot about 4 a.m., the two got into a physical fight until a bellman at the hotel pulled Bynum's husband off her, Officer Ronald Campbell said.
"She was bruised up and battered," Campbell said. "She had purple bruising around her neck and upper torso."
The husband, who is also a preacher, left the scene. No charges have been filed against him, according to police.
Police found out about the fray from a staff member at Piedmont Hospital, where Bynum was taken for a checkup. She could not be reached Wednesday night.
A popular Pentecostal evangelist, Bynum lives in Hempstead, N.Y., but her administrative offices are in Waycross. She is open about her past, freely talking about sex and being on welfare, hospitalized with a mental breakdown, divorced and spiritually broken.
Once a homemaker, a hairdresser and a flight attendant, Bynum's big break came when Bishop T.D. Jakes invited her to speak at one of his conferences several years ago. Her ministry took off a couple of years later after she gave her unrehearsed "No More Sheets" sermon on breaking free of sexual promiscuity at a singles event.
Since then, she has parlayed her tough-love evangelism into a one-woman industry, writing several best-selling books, recording inspirational CDs and preaching to millions through televised sermons.
She has been a regular at Megafest, Jakes' four-day festival of worship, music, education and praise that drew thousands every year it took place in Atlanta.
Her 2002 wedding to Weeks, who started the Global Destiny churches nationwide, was televised and, according to media reports, featured a gown with a bodice covered in crystals and a 7.76-carat diamond ring.
ilisten2
08-23-2007, 04:53 PM
WOW!
Human beings once again trying to find companionship, bond together, and live with just a little peace and happiness. And look what happens as a result. What a mess! I'm sorry to hear about this situation. Thank God you are still here! Letting go may be the best choice. Now let your healing begin. :(
2messedup
08-23-2007, 04:57 PM
Like I said,easier said...than done.
Cman126
08-23-2007, 04:57 PM
It is truly a sad day. As a Christian woman this behavior is unacceptable by any person in or out of the church. However,a young man doesn't wake up,and decide to be an abuser it is a learned behavior. Surely, this isn't the first time he has done this, but he just became bold with it this time.. Pray for them both, and pray for her as a woman whose feelings, and pride have been bruised. I was a victim of abuse, and I got out because he didn't change.
We all keep weighing on the fact that this does not happen out teh blue...that is a lie....you are not going to sit here and say that someone has never made you so mad that you wanted to hit them or hurt them....and that could very well be the case..what do you say when someone get's so upset that they shoot someone....are you saying that they shot someone before in their life....come on people think before you speak....never the less it was still wrong....even if the shoe was on the other foot....we we still say the same thing....come on people.....we are really blowing this into something that it does not need to be....we don;t know what he is dealing with....we don't know what caused him to do this....what we do know is that we need to be praying for them......bottom line
Mahogany Love
08-23-2007, 05:02 PM
from Lakisha or Roberta on the South side of Chicago that may have gotten beaten up last night by their spouses simply BECAUSE at least we can say they may not know the WRATH of the Lord but these individuals do.
WE can not try to decide who was at fault because WE all know there are two sides to every story and must I remind everyone the tongue can turn into a “POISONOUS SNAKE” in a split moment and if you don’t have control of your anger & frustrations who knows which way ANY situation can go, so its best to get out of the situation as peacefully as possible when your dealing with a crazed person MALE OR FEMALE with a “POISONOUS TONGUE”. RUN when they start up is the best advice.
I speak about the “SUPERFICIAL POWERED” people all the time, PEOPLE, everyone please wake up to the fact that, that is what these people are. They have been put in place just as a teacher is put in place to teach a student. The real & true leader is our HEAVENLY FATHER and those that abuse HIS name………………………..Please continue to hold them in your prayers they really and truly need it. That goes for ANY ONE in the church with so called “RANK”, judges, law officials of any sort THESE people have been sworn-in under GOD's oath to be FAIR & UNBIAS, etc. and believe me when I tell you folks you will witness first hand their destruction because they are on pedestals NOW and will be THEN. They are mere humans but continue to hold themselves on pedestals as if they are GOD or close to being GOD.
And this is why I tell you my friends the "SUPERFICIAL POWERED" FOLKS that have single handedly been helping to hold this world back from being HEAVEN on earth for so long BETTER take note ASAP for they still have a change to turn things around. I will try to remind some of these folks when I visit Jena for some have not been taught properly or even listen to be taught properly may not learn this time around but at least I can say for a fact I tried. ALL the facts are right there in the GOOD BOOK just study it properly and you will see it all for YOURSELF.
And of course it is not OUR fight it is all in the LORDS plan! WE are here to teach & learn from each other.
To Mr. & Mrs. Bynum I will hold you in my prayers (and not because these folks held themselves on any kind of pedestal but because they are mere humans as you and I passing judgment)
FIRSTLADYT
08-23-2007, 05:05 PM
If a man who is preaching Gods word in our pulpit. And is beating his wife at home is he really hearing God? One thing I have learned is that God won't punish us for the things that people do to us. But he will punish us for the things we do to people. So in other words we are all held accountable for our own actions. So more preacher should go before the alter on the regular.Just to stay close to God. To keep things like this from happening. all men are judge by God saved or un saved.:mad:
D_bkny
08-23-2007, 05:05 PM
This is an example for all those who think they need a "man of the cloth" to pray them. As you all can see, that Bishop is only a man that may have been held in high regards. These people of the cloth are just actors in a game of life.
He should be a real man and turned himself in. I bet this was not the first time he "buss her ass." It's just that she got beaten in public this time. So what have we learnt. Pray for your damn selves and don't feel that you need someone else to act on your behalf to have a conversation with G-D.
Hence the reason why I don't go to church. Too much decadence in churches. And I can't deal with the hyprocracy. So, Bishop Weeks turn yourself in. And as you know, when you shed a few crocodile tears the congregation will forgive you. Remember Jimmy Swaggart.
My dear Azis you are looking for a perfect world. But guess what, we didn't get there yet and Jesus didn't make a His second appearence yet. Sin is still running rampant in this world and until it is removed this world will never be perfect.
(Buckle your seat belt for this one) You said, "Hence the reason why I don't go to church. Too much decadence in churches. And I can't deal with the hypocrisy." So, my next question to you is, do you go to work? do you go to school? do you have a family? Hypocrites are everywhere, on the jobs we work at, the schools we go to, and some even in our families. How do you deal with that? Now, tell me why do you think there wouldn't be any hypocrites in the church. It's just not possible.
Cman126
08-23-2007, 05:05 PM
I am really praying that all of this negative feedback and press has not caused him to hurt himself. If no one has heard from him that's a problem. That's why we need to be careful of what we say....and encourage him to turn himself in and get help.....I am sure that the last thing that Prohetess Bynum would want out of this is for him to hurt himself or someone hurt him. I am sure that she still has love for him and just wants him to get the help that he needs to deal with his anger....but I really pray that he has not done anything to himself.....that would hurt her and a whole bunch of people....
Cman126
08-23-2007, 05:07 PM
My dear Azis you are looking for a perfect world. But guess what, we didn't get there yet and Jesus didn't make a His second appearence yet. Sin is still running rampant in this world and until it is removed this world will never be perfect.
(Buckle your seat belt for this one) You said, "Hence the reason why I don't go to church. Too much decadence in churches. And I can't deal with the hypocrisy." So, my next question to you is, do you go to work? do you go to school? do you have a family? Hypocrites are everywhere, on the jobs we work at, the schools we go to, and some even in our families. How do you deal with that? Now, tell me why do you think there wouldn't be any hypocrites in the church. It's just not possible.
Amen to this....
Sinceresista
08-23-2007, 05:09 PM
He was raised to be a respectable young man. There are two sides to every story. She very well may have provoked this attack. Remember, she followed him outside and apparently baggered him. We don't live in there household so we can only speculate on what really happened.
And how would you feel if your child was accused of beating his wife? His parents are upstanding members of the community and don't need to be hounded by the press or anyone else.
Sorry, this is NOT about his parents...this is about Him and his wife, and the abuse....Provoked this attack???? I'm sorry, there is NO reason for anyone to hit anyone else!!! It's not about living in the household, there is NO JUSTIFICATION FOR PHYSICAL ABUSE!!!
damitrie
08-23-2007, 05:10 PM
Halt, all this male bashing, while I do not condone his actions/behavior, he will have to answer for that. There is all ways 3 sides too every story. I have to agree with (Geoffbrizzlfunny), what really was the provocation. Anyone and I mean anyone, is subject to snap at anytime, depending on the situation. If you are of sound mind and body, don't you have too wonder?
In this situation:
1. Her side
2. His side
3. The truth which lead to the altercation
wiztray
08-23-2007, 05:13 PM
Verbal Abuse?.... Thats bad. Physical Abuse thats very bad. Everyone is going to talk about that topic, exhaust that topic, speak about the obvious. However, let me touch on something that people may never talk about, which is the misleading of God's people in the name of God supposedly for God. This powerhouse couple started off as a genuine honest to goodness force to be reckoned with but along the way it was tainted and it was no longer pure. Those who are truly listening the heart of God shouldve sensed that. They shouldve known that even though this ministry has kept going strong with their "teach me to love you" series and ministries, that the latter 2 yrs was a farce. They had several of these conferences up to 2 months ago with a worldwide attendance including my English Cousins who are so dedicated to this ministry that they go to all thier appearances in the Uk as well as to come all the way to the US, sometimes twice a year to hear what they have to say and dont even visit me!!! Going to thier conferences are not cheap either. They are some of the most expensive registration fees around. Ranging from 150.00 and up. Then there are CD's and books and Partner/ministry membership donations which are solicited in the name of the Lord. People pay these things and fly all over the country because they beleive what you say. they beleive that you live what you preach and look to implement these practises in thier lives.
It is no wonder then, that God has to intervene and expose the lie. You see when you do things in the name of the Lord, ultimately there is a crime to pay. As Numbers 32 vs23 clearly says "be sure your sins will find you out."
As a footnote: .. none of my girlfriends who follow thier ministry including my cousins are still not married and consequently not learning to love anyone.
I guess not!
Cherokee LaDona del Bronx
08-23-2007, 05:14 PM
Would someone please find hime, hogtie him and drag him into the nearest police station?
What is really sic about this is that she had this big beautiful wedding, talks about how wonderful being married is, and all the while, when they go behind closed doors, he is beating the hell out of her.
You don't kick and punch your woman....oh better yet, yes you do. That is why he was single. HE WAS AN ABUSER! HE BEAT ON WOMAN!
This not the last of Mister, Mister.
There will be more women coming out of the woodworks telling their stories.
K
MsMel2007
08-23-2007, 05:14 PM
I think that it is a sad thing to hear when any woman is beatened at the hand of her man. In spite of their religious background or race, a man should NEVER put his hands on a woman. I don't care if she threatened him first or whatever, it appears to me that this brotha is not a man of God, otherwise he wouldn't have done this horrible thing. Now he is on the run and he knows what he did was not Christian like. When are we going to learn? And to the young lady who is pregnant, who called into the show, and said that it was alright to be beaten, girl, I hope they don't show your story on CNN somewhere saying that you were found murdered at the hands of your boyfriend!
crimson1913
08-23-2007, 05:18 PM
So-called Men of God are held to a higher standard. It may not be right but it just is. More is expected from them, as it should be. I can't even address this fool as "Bishop" anymore. There is absolutely no excuse for domestic violence of any kind but unfortunately it happens and I'm sure it's not the first time he abused her. A man just doesn't unleash that kind of anger out of the blue. But equally as concerning to me is that he has yet to turn himself in.
This is the sign of a true COWARD. Is he somewhere "praying about it" and waiting to hear from God as to what he should do? The time to pray was when the thought to beat his wife silly came into his head. Praying time is over Coward Weeks....TURN YOURSELF IN! and face the wrath of the Justice System.
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beautifulbecause
08-23-2007, 05:18 PM
My heart goes out to Ms.Bynum. It sounds like she has a pattern of not loving herself enough. I agree, there is no way in hell that this was the first time Week-ass has put his hands on her. This couple has obviously been living a lie for quite some time, which makes me question their sincerity and commitment to teaching the Word. She needs to really do some soul searching and some psychotherapy because it sounds like she has been in this cycle for most of her life. This also shows us that abuse, lack of self-love, and hypocrisy is just as prevalent in the church as it is in the world. I pray that she will come out of this situation healed physically and emotionally. As for Bishop Week-ass, I pray that he will become a true man.
Abuse is NEVER ok ladies (and gents).
tessa1
08-23-2007, 05:20 PM
This is terrible. People better wake up and smell the roses. God didn't mean for us to beat up on eachother. He meant for us to love and care about eachother. Men should be protecting women not beating them. The Bible has been taken all out of context. Bishop needs help (professional help). Pray ain't go do him no good. He could have prayed for himself if that was the case. I am a Christian, but I am not praying for him. If I do say a pray for him, it will be for him to be caught and locked up until he can get some help. I would love to kick his behind myself just to let him know that a beating does not feel good. He is a man just like any other man. Being a pastor does not exempt him from doing sinful things. I am with you Michael, I hate fake preachers. There are lots of them in the church now. Our race is searching for something in the Church that Gods has already given us. He's made us all unique. We are made in his image and we are his children.
I could go on and on, but I know you won't have time to read a book.:)
Keep on keeping on. I love you and your show. You tell it like it is and I love that about you. Everything is Everything
Much Love,
Tessa1
SingleNMinglingTrayDaPoet
08-23-2007, 05:21 PM
What do the Pastors and Church people have to say about this? Usually the church is the one telling women to "STAY STAY STAY, Stay with your husband", "love him to Christ", "Be submissive" You do all of that, and for what? To continue to get beat? I know GOD does not want anyone to stay in a situation like this. If he hit her this time believe me it probably was not the first time. In the words of Mr Baisden "PRAY AND PACK!!!"
mommaluv
08-23-2007, 05:22 PM
:: This was not the first maybe the worst..obviously, spirituality is a "one
day at a time" personal challenge base on certain knowledge. It should determine ones behavior it saddens my heart to hear this, especially for both parties being in the positions that they both hold. There are too many signs
in relationships that go unnotice or ignore and it constanly festers beneath
what we choose to show the out side viewers. This is what happen to everyday people as well as celebrities or spiritual leaders. We're all humans you know what that means... That's totally unexceptable.
kyd (dc)
regnurse
08-23-2007, 05:23 PM
Hello readers it is a shame of what just happened to MRS BYNUM BUT IT GOES TO SHOW US THAT IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE. I am a woman that just escaped domestic abuse. Yes it was hard an scarry but I had to leave for myself and my children safety. When I made up my mind I had to rock 2 blackeyes too work and mind you I am a nurse. Yes it was hard but at the same time it gave me freedom. I have never felt better since it is over. Why stay it is because of fear but one day that fear got up and walked away and I stood up for myself and my children . As I write I am crying cause it hurts to revisit that memory. Now I am trying to help a friend that is now in the same situation. She is staying because of fear, low self esteem and the bible. She feels that she has to do everything by the bible in order save her marriage. I just do not understand that especially when she uses the bible to stay.
Ava Baby
08-23-2007, 05:29 PM
Juanita took another woman's husband - but she's called by God?
How? I think what you rip, you sew or as Malcolm X said - the chickens have come home to roost. I did not like the fact that they celebrated their adultery on national TV, spent people's hard earned money (over $1M) and went before God as if their love was pure. People - wake up! These pastors are human just like us! Turn to the Lord God himself for guidance and direction - not money hungry, false prophets, adulterers, who care less about your soul and more about your money. Mike - she's a fake pastor, too, who got the beat down from her fake pastor husband!
I like Mike don't consider myself a religious person, but I am good person and once people in the church learn that all people standing in the pulpit (man or woman) are all not what they crack up to be....Mike keeps people informed of what's going on. I move to southern Georgia from Chicago and a lot of things (positive and negative) going on in the real world just doesn't make news here, so without listening to his show everyday on my way home I would have no idea about certain things. Like the incident in LA...So hat off to Mike, his show and staff
Sinceresista
08-23-2007, 05:32 PM
My heart goes out to Ms.Bynum. It sounds like she has a pattern of not loving herself enough. I agree, there is no way in hell that this was the first time Week-ass has put his hands on her. This couple has obviously been living a lie for quite some time, which makes me question their sincerity and commitment to teaching the Word. She needs to really do some soul searching and some psychotherapy because it sounds like she has been in this cycle for most of her life. This also shows us that abuse, lack of self-love, and hypocrisy is just as prevalent in the church as it is in the world. I pray that she will come out of this situation healed physically and emotionally. As for Bishop Week-ass, I pray that he will become a true man.
Abuse is NEVER ok ladies (and gents).
I agree and another thing, so many people are focusing on the fact that they are ministers, men/women of the cloth, etc. All the time forgetting that regardless of their position in life, they are still human beings and will never be above that, nor will they ever be perfect. As far as the negative comments regarding religion go...when man (human beings) stop putting these ministers on a pedastal and remember that their main focus should be on God and God alone, we will always deal with peoples negative opinions regarding religion and will always be "shocked" when these situations arise.
D3Neice7102
08-23-2007, 05:33 PM
What an unholy mess! There's a saying "Pray and Pack!" I truly believe it was God's divine intervention that interceded on behalf of Juanita Bynum. If the bellman had not witnessed the physical attack that was being committed by Rev. Weeks, we may be sending our condolences AND prayers to Juanita's family.
We don't know what goes on behind closed doors in a marriage, but there are countless "sanctified" women who are suffering in silence. I attended a marital retreat sponsored by my church last year, and it was stressed about the wives being submissive to their husbands. Just how submissive...until your husband chokes the breathe out of you, stomps on you and kicks you to death?
How would you feel if Juanita was your mother, sister, or daughter who was MIStreated?
Thanks,and I know you mean well,but have you ever had a man beat you like a dog and put you in the hospital? He must be stopped.....maybe he did it before and was reported before....Sooo much is easier said than done.I don't like verbal,mental,or physical abuse.I hate when people get away with it,being allowed to continually do it to another and another again....I can relate first hand-and it was many years ago. Only when it happened to me,it was my word against his. So he totally got away with it.If the bellhop didn't intervene for Juanita Bynum,she could have been killed.Choked her kicked her stomped her.......I don't know how you wuld take it if it happened to you:mad:
dotslaton
08-23-2007, 05:34 PM
If she is a Prophet why wasn't it prophesied to her that her husband was a woman beater
walkersisters
08-23-2007, 05:36 PM
I notice you often have been calling him tommy that"s quite personal, are you confused in your relationship with the bishop. I'm quite offended that you keep name dropping. He may not have abused you, however he beat her today, so he has change or maybe not.
Chipmunk Cheeks
08-23-2007, 05:39 PM
4give my curiosity: I wonder (1) What exactly did she say or do right before this esteemed (at least before this incident) man of God threw his religion out the window and attacked her. (2) Was what SHE said/did Godly? and (3) If given the opportunity, would she say/do the same thing again, as a woman of God? I DO NOT EXCUSE HIS BEHAVIOR, but I also question why, when in the heat of marital battle, is all the weight of Godliness put upon the man.
As we all know, there are two sides to a story, and we're only commenting on the outcome. I ALSO DO NOT EXCUSE HIS BEHAVIOR, but at what point did it go that far and did they ever realize it? Why did he dismiss himself? What did she say or do to him? What was her role in this incident? For those who have listened to any of her teachings, Minister Bynum is a very aggressive woman who speaks her mind and tells you what she wants you to hear. What transpired to make this man AND woman of God dismiss their teachings, beliefs, and put themselves in this predicament. When they usually travel with an assistant/entourage/etc., why didn't they have someone with them? With all of the conferences/teachings/books they have conducted on marriage, did they recognize the signs for themselves? Did they think they were above and beyond counseling or reaching out for help? For this to get this bad, there had to have been an escalation of events that led up to this. There is more to the story than is being told. There had been rumors a while back about infidelity. Could that be the reason for the 4 am encounter? Whatever happened to meeting for lunch or dinner in a neutral place?
I hope we get em, cause the Bishop needs to be locked under the jail, or better yet, he needs to be beaten on to see how it feels.
rchpreacher
08-23-2007, 05:40 PM
Although this is the worse form of abuse,that a man or woman can become subject too and I definately do not agree with the physical, emotional, spiritual abuse of anyone. However, this is the time where the Body of Christ should stand together in prayer, not to condone this behavior but to pray for the healing of these two powerful pulptiers! This should also be a revelation to the Body of Christ that we are to cherish and respect marriage as an institute of oneness, and that the Body of Christ should have programs, retreats, ministries in place were married,single, divorced, whatever! to come together and really become open and honest with our experiences in life that might just save the soul, and life of someone else
D3Neice7102
08-23-2007, 05:42 PM
You must be related to Madea! :)
I wonder what defense strategy Rev. Weeks is going to have with his lawyer when he goes to court for battery and assault!
It really pisses me off when these tough guys can beat the crap of women and then run like little punks when it's time to go to jail.
I wish I knew where the little sissy was hiding out!:mad:
csinger
08-23-2007, 05:43 PM
I am a minister and my husband is a minister. We are very upset with this situation. My husband taught bible study and the question came up about abuse and the head pastor got upset. He told my husband that it was none of anyone's business and he said the wife should stay in that situation. We confronted him on his own abuse of his wife and we also asked him if it was his daughter what would he do. He started throwing scriptures at us and told us we were wrong. We are not at that church anymore. People try to cover up abuse in church. Why is it that some preachers can preach the gospel but treat their wives and families so bad? They treat sister so and so better than they do their wife. I can tell if a pastor is real by the way he treats his wife and family. I am upset because when you are trying to preach the truth some pastors get mad but this is making me want to keep on preaching.
mommaluv
08-23-2007, 05:45 PM
This saddens my heart for both parties because of the public redicule that will
follow. I also find it highly dissappointing especially with the positions they both hold. Now due to their lack of control it shows that they were not praticing what they taught. There are many signs and many forms of abuse
I hope they both get the help they need ,but their actions are totally un exceptable they need some serious counseling it did'nt just start.
kim b (dc)
justmingle
08-23-2007, 05:46 PM
You Know This Is Really Making Me Mad Because I Have Been Listening And No One Is Talking About How She Feels. He Is Getting All The Attention Everybody Talking About Him. I Have Been Following Juanita Bynum Since No More Sheets. I Hate It That She Going Through This So Much It Feels Like Someone Has Done This To My Mother.
Someone Said Earlier He Tried To Walk Away She Should Have Left Him Alone But This Is Her Husband The Man She Trusted And Took Vows With. What About How She Feels The Disappointment, The Hurt, The Rejection. While Evrybody Wants To Know Where He Is I Want To Know Where She Is And How She Is Doing.
I Think That It Is Twisted That The Focus Is On This Man When We Need To Leave That One To God And When The Time Comes The Police. Juanita Has Been There To Lift People Spirits And She Has Changed Lives (i Know She Has Changed Mine) So Now Who Is Lifting Her Up Right Now Who Is Telling Her That It Will Be Okay Because God Wont Put More On You Than You Can Bear And At The End Of The Day God Has His Hands In Everything.
Im Praying For Her And I Hope That You Will. I Personally Dont Care About Him And How He Feels And Where He Is At Because He Knows Better. If He Can Hear Gods Voice For His Members Please Believe That He Can Hear Him For His Self!
Brandi
rchpreacher
08-23-2007, 05:47 PM
absolutely correct.
forrealron
08-23-2007, 05:50 PM
My comment is this. It is unexcuseable to hit a woman. I don't see how a man could even love his ownself after the fact. Get real people there is no excuse for it. Regardless of your religion. I got a remedy for you women for the next man that want to put his hands on u. Wait until he go to sleep and get a glass of cold water and pour it on him, and then tell him the next time it will hot grease. He will wake up to reality and think twice about puttin his hands on you. God Bless!
D3Neice7102
08-23-2007, 05:57 PM
To the young pregnant lady who called into the show with the impression that it is alright for a man to beat on women...WAKE UP! The most dangerous time for women in their lives is when they are pregnant. Statistics confirm the countless pregnant women who have been abused, beatened, and murdered at the hands of their unborn child's father or their husband who profess that they love them!
For pregnant women, it is your responsibility to protect yourself and your UNBORN child. The child can not protect itself...only you can!
Save yourself and your child from a life of abuse!!! GET OUT...YOUR LIFE AND YOUR BABY'S LIFE DEPEND ON YOUR SURVIVAL!
I think that it is a sad thing to hear when any woman is beatened at the hand of her man. In spite of their religious background or race, a man should NEVER put his hands on a woman. I don't care if she threatened him first or whatever, it appears to me that this brotha is not a man of God, otherwise he wouldn't have done this horrible thing. Now he is on the run and he knows what he did was not Christian like. When are we going to learn? And to the young lady who is pregnant, who called into the show, and said that it was alright to be beaten, girl, I hope they don't show your story on CNN somewhere saying that you were found murdered at the hands of your boyfriend!
...I'm a living witness...I have been exposed to abuse in the church for more than 20 years and unlike the Catholic Church, I did not "come out" and lawyers caught wind of my story, filed a case on my behalf and won me "financial compensation" for my pain and distress.
Like MANY others, male and female, abuse left covered up in the black community and within the black church has created an underground world of people who are either gay or introverted, promiscuous, depressed or yet angry--to say the least.
What has happened that made national news PALES IN COMPARISON to what many have suffered behind closed doors! Believe me, I know. Not many talk about what they have experienced, and the church has been afraid. Even still, the ratio of churches that do address these issues, still have not reached the core group of people who no longer attend church because of their silent sufferings.
Black families, as well, should stop covering it up. If enough people stop gossiping about so and so, and begin talking about real issues that may help others, we may begin to scratch the surface of what is the root of pain for millions.
And getting away is not easy! It took me three years to escape and I am still dealing with repercussions! Yet I am okay.
Please do not judge those who are abused, saying they "just" need to get out, and please don't judge the offenders, because they will receive their just reward. Please don't just stand there, DO SOMETHING!
YASU
www.yasuembassy.com
walkersisters
08-23-2007, 06:01 PM
lady,Do you know were Tommy is, if so please turn him in or are you the other women. maybe you should have married your tommy and saved Mrs. Weeks. oh and what's the reast of the story.
sweetjan1
08-23-2007, 06:03 PM
Sorry to hear about this situation but making a show out of it does not help.Lets left them up in prayer.:)
D3Neice7102
08-23-2007, 06:05 PM
I have one word, and that is hypocrite!!!
AMEN to that........
Sexy Pisces
08-23-2007, 06:10 PM
I am just out down at this whole situation. When I frist heard about it through an email I thought that maybe this wasn't real. So much stuff come through the email that isn't true. But when I heard today topic I was left with my mouth wide open. I just can't believe that this man has done this to his Wife, Beauty Queen, Sole Mate, Parter, someone he suppose to love and cherish. I seen the wedding on television and it wasn't a regular wedding it was beautiful. I think he needs lots of help, maybe there was somethings that went on during his childhood that has made him this way. Now that isn't an excuse. I think he needs to go and turn himself in since he was man enough to do the crime be a man and take the punishment for it. From what I read they were seperating and this maybe the reason. Maybe she started seeing the signs and didn't want any parts of it. I pray for them both and if she takes him back they both will need to go into some Counseling. And to top it off he is a Pastor he should know better that is why today there is so many fake Pastors and people don't know what or who to trust spirtually. Just blown away.....
rmrice63
08-23-2007, 06:14 PM
Impressive that you personally know Tommy. However, what Mrs. Tommy may have said, done in no way justifies her being beaten by a man, THE man who made a solemn vow to Mrs. Tommy, witnesses and above all GOD to love, honor and cherish her. His actions and his vows are contradictory at best. If he's hiding out at your crib, make the call and let him face the music. When you're man/woman enough to do the crime, be man/woman enough to face the consequences, running does nothing but confirm how cowardly one truly is. Be grateful to God that He spared you for it very well could've been YOU Tommy attacked because you SAID something he didn't agree with. God's continued blessings upon you.
D3Neice7102
08-23-2007, 06:18 PM
On point! I've been reading some of the viewpoints this evening, and some people have it twisted around! Rev. Weeks is the one who has attacked his wife Juanita Bynum.
Are his action less despicable because he is supposed to be a "man of God"? I don't think so. Of course our prayers should go out to both of them and their family. This is a tragedy that is being sensationalized in the news and on the Internet, but the focus should be on helping the victim of the assault.
Why is it that some people think she instigated this situation? No one in their right mind wants to be knocked to the ground, choked, stomped on, and kicked like a mongrel dog in the street.
I wouldn't waste my time and energy wondering where Rev. Weeks is. If he was a real man, he should have confessed his sins to God, then turn himself into the police, and face the consequences of his actions.
Just a thought.
You Know This Is Really Making Me Mad Because I Have Been Listening And No One Is Talking About How She Feels. He Is Getting All The Attention Everybody Talking About Him. I Have Been Following Juanita Bynum Since No More Sheets. I Hate It That She Going Through This So Much It Feels Like Someone Has Done This To My Mother.
Someone Said Earlier He Tried To Walk Away She Should Have Left Him Alone But This Is Her Husband The Man She Trusted And Took Vows With. What About How She Feels The Disappointment, The Hurt, The Rejection. While Evrybody Wants To Know Where He Is I Want To Know Where She Is And How She Is Doing.
I Think That It Is Twisted That The Focus Is On This Man When We Need To Leave That One To God And When The Time Comes The Police. Juanita Has Been There To Lift People Spirits And She Has Changed Lives (i Know She Has Changed Mine) So Now Who Is Lifting Her Up Right Now Who Is Telling Her That It Will Be Okay Because God Wont Put More On You Than You Can Bear And At The End Of The Day God Has His Hands In Everything.
Im Praying For Her And I Hope That You Will. I Personally Dont Care About Him And How He Feels And Where He Is At Because He Knows Better. If He Can Hear Gods Voice For His Members Please Believe That He Can Hear Him For His Self!
Brandi
ninte1
08-23-2007, 06:27 PM
Anyone Who Has The Nerve To Have Sympathy For This Man (pastor); Maybe His Mother Is The Only One Who Should Have Sympathy For Him And Even She Should Be Chastising And Letting Him Know He Is Wrong!!! People Who Are Ignoring The Seriousness Of This Situation And Issue Are Either Abusers Or Are Used To Being Abused And Have Accept Verbal And Physical Abuse As A Way Of Life And That Is Sick!!! Sickness Of Any Form Is Underserving Of Any Compassion!!!!!!
Gogirl38
08-23-2007, 06:31 PM
I am truly disappointed in the behavior of Mr. Weeks actions towards his wife. It matters even more knowing she is a minister, as well as him self, yet his behavior contradict what he preachers to millions. These types of out burst and no self control of ones action turn believers, non- believers and those in between away from the Lord. I will keep the entire family, yes even Mr. Weeks in prayer. Those who attack the anointed will have a bigger penalty from heaven that no law on earth can match. No woman deserves to be abused. Is this the kind of message a minister preachers before the pulpit. Don’t make the Lord look bad because you’re wolf in sheep clothing. If you are going to be a representative of another power other then God’s, then step away from the ministry you suppose to be representing, and let a true minister come forward that represent the love that God stands for.
Raine1
08-23-2007, 06:35 PM
Dear Michael,
I know Thomas Wesley Weeks, JR. (his birth name) personally. I know him as Tommy. I've known him for over 20 years and even dated him seriously prior to his first marriage. It is deplorable for any man to hit a woman but I find it hard to believe this story on the surface. There has to be more to the story. Additionally, I know his mother, brother, father, this is just not him nor the way he was raised. This man stood by me when my grandmother died and has shown an enormous capacity to care. I think everyone should defer judgement until all the facts are known.
Lastly, again I don't excuse a man hitting a woman but I also wonder what Ms. Bynum may have said or done to be complicit in this matter. And, yes I said "Complicit". I've been trying to phone your show to give an alternate perspective on this matter but have been unable to get through. You and your guests should not make an already difficult situation worse by being sanctimonious and pontificating about matters that you are not fully informed about.
Thank you.
Dear Sister, shame on you...:confused:
1. Fact: An Aurgument occured in an Atlanta Hotel in front of witnesses
2. Fact: At least Two (2) witnesses who did not know each other called in a report of the altercation into the police (hotel & hospital staff members) and identified YOUR 'precious ex-boyfriend' as the perpatrator
3. Fact: Juanita Bynum was seen at a hospital and had bruises
Fact: NO MATTER WHAT another person says NOBODY HAS the right to hit, beat or in thei instance "STOMP" another
4. Fact: Unless you are completly stuck, lost or have forgotten to enter the current day and age there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING A PERSON "DOES OR SAYS" THAT MAKES THEM "COMPLICIT" in a person PHYSCIALLY BEATING THEM ANYTIME or ANYWHERE!!!!! Even if he had caught her cheating,lying, stealing, or whatever NO EXCUSE EXISTS that in anyway opens the door for a man or woman to resort to violence and especially violence of this nature.
I am really struggling not to think you might be mentally retarded for making that statement!! Where have you been? Just by what you said you are a women at risk for being abuseD in a relationship because you really believe that a woman can have fault in that type of situation! A partner could clearly be able to convince you that you 'provoked' his attack. REAL MEN DO NOT HIT. PERIOD END OF DISCUSSION.
HE DID HIT HER and that is a fact NOT in DISPUTE!
i AM GLAD YOU APPARENTLY NEVER EXPERIENCED ANY ABUSE AT HIS HANDS, BUT THEN WITH THE COMMENT YOU MADE YOU ARE PROBABLY A VERY COMPLIANT PERSON & NOT AS STRONG OR AS CONFIDENT A WOMEN AS MS. BYNUM IS AND HAS THE GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO BE. MEN WHO HIT uSUALLY DO SO TO CONTROL OR DIMINISH THE STRENGTH THEY SEE IN THE WOMEN THEY ARE WITH SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A FALSE SENSE OF EQUAL FOOTING. (oops sorry about the caps)
Get the stars out of your eyes and be real honey, this is not made up make believe. The violence is real!
evette71
08-23-2007, 06:36 PM
I am very ashamed of the way women and men treat each other. We act civilized in business meetings, worship service, and classroom settings but when it comes to dealing with family issues either good or bad we lack civil obedience. Why????? The only answer I can come up with is nonsense better known as DISRESPECT. Please let's all pray for some respectful ways.
mzmoblack1
08-23-2007, 06:36 PM
Well let me just say that this situation leaves my heart and soul saddened and my mind numb. It's real hard not to judge the Bishop for what he has done to his wife being a survivor of domestic abuse myself. But I have to admit to myself that I am guilty of not doing all I can to prevent the acceptance of domestic violence. What I see time and time again is people especially in the black community hiding the problem for various reasons. I believe we can begin a process of eliminating domestic violence when we can make honest assessments of our own tolerance levels and prevent ourselves from being agitators. Anger is an emotion all of us have which I believe is somehow part of our fight or flight response designed to ensure our survival be it physically or emotionally, unfortunately if left unchecked or unrecognized will led to someone being hurt or worst killed. The challenge is to become more self aware because this can happen to anyone. My prayers go out to both Bishop and his soon to be ex wife.
mzmoblack1
08-23-2007, 06:37 PM
:( Well let me just say that this situation leaves my heart and soul saddened and my mind numb. It's real hard not to judge the Bishop for what he has done to his wife being a survivor of domestic abuse myself. But I have to admit to myself that I am guilty of not doing all I can to prevent the acceptance of domestic violence. What I see time and time again is people especially in the black community hiding the problem for various reasons. I believe we can begin a process of eliminating domestic violence when we can make honest assessments of our own tolerance levels and prevent ourselves from being agitators. Anger is an emotion all of us have which I believe is somehow part of our fight or flight response designed to ensure our survival be it physically or emotionally, unfortunately if left unchecked or unrecognized will led to someone being hurt or worst killed. The challenge is to become more self aware because this can happen to anyone. My prayers go out to both Bishop and his soon to be ex wife.
Kinahbean
08-23-2007, 06:38 PM
I just pray for Prophetess Juanita Bynum. I ask God to heal her body and her spirit. She is a strong woman with the fire of God in her and He surrounds her and every situation she is in.
I do believe that everything happens for a reason and that she will use this as a testimony of God's grace because, this too shall pass. I pray that this situation will breath new life into her ministry, that this unfortunate situation will bring light to such a dark, unspoken problem that so many women face daily, and they suffer in silence.
If this incident NEEDED to happen to such a powerful woman of God to get people talking then I am sure she is grateful for God to use her in such a way. I believe lives are going to be saved through her forthcoming testimony. I believe men and women alike with step forward to say "No More Domestic Abuse." I pray that she just openly receives this as a blessing in disguise.
Let's not judge Thomas Weeks' actions but rather pray for his speedy capture. Less time talking about the shock of this and more time coming up with solutions and new ways to combat this issue breeds results.
God Bless everyone whose eyes reads these words. If you know anyone or you yourself are in an abusive relationship, seek God first and He will direct your path. I pray safety, health and prosperity to you and your loved ones.
God Bless.
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 06:42 PM
Juanita took another woman's husband - but she's called by God?
How? I think what you rip, you sew or as Malcolm X said - the chickens have come home to roost. I did not like the fact that they celebrated their adultery on national TV, spent people's hard earned money (over $1M) and went before God as if their love was pure. People - wake up! These pastors are human just like us! Turn to the Lord God himself for guidance and direction - not money hungry, false prophets, adulterers, who care less about your soul and more about your money. Mike - she's a fake pastor, too, who got the beat down from her fake pastor husband!
As a wise man once said, "Bad women are made for bad men and GOOD women are made for GOOD men."
Like the bible says, it's a SHAME for a woman to SPEAK in a church!
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
MissParker
08-23-2007, 07:07 PM
I am a former First Lady who has been abused in my marriage, both verbally and physically. Yet, the physical abuse only happened one time because I refused to accept this type of behavior. I've ultimately forgiven my ex and even tried to rebuild our crumbled marriage. He continued to commit adultery and refused to seek professional counseling. I truly believe that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities. The entire Christian body must pray about this situation!! God has pulled backed the sheets to uncover this ugly demon that has showed his face!! No More Sheets!! This time from a totally different perspective!! God is sick and tired of this foolishness!! God will use this circumstance for his glory!! This is not a first time offense!! Abuse is running rapid in our churches and it is now time to do something about it!! I am not even going to go there about the PIMPS IN THE PULPIT!! Either you're going to be a TRUE MAN OF GOD OR STEP DOWN FROM YOUR CALLING!! Perhaps, you've called yourself!! Stop being FAKE!! God don't like UGGGGGLLLLLYYY!!! You will reap, what you sow!! Karma is real!!
cynthia40
08-23-2007, 07:09 PM
I have loved Juanita Bynum since I saw her on a DVD of Bishop T.D. Jakes, Woman Thou Art Loosed conference. She definitely keeps it real. I know she is a strong woman and he must have felt threatened by her. He is definitely not living by the word of God. But, we can't condemn him, he is sick and God will take care of it all. When we let go and let God fight our battles, we always come out victorious. She will rise from this and be an even more powerful tool for God.
Raine1
08-23-2007, 07:21 PM
As a wise man once said, "Bad women are made for bad men and GOOD women are made for GOOD men."
Like the bible says, it's a SHAME for a woman to SPEAK in a church!
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Wow Ava Baby & Blackman7 are lost and twisted. You are the scariest people on here and exactly the type of self-righteous, exclusionary "religous pharasees" that Christ was speaking about in John 10.
To say she got what she deserved?!!!? IS SICK! Ur hearts a black as night and God is NOT in that I don't care HOW many scriptures you quote!! How dare you use GOD'S WORD to degrade and belittle people who have been victimized. I pray it is simply your ignorance and not the deepest condition of a heart of rotteness and stone that spews such terrible statements!
God is restorer of things that were lost, perhaps you 2 simply read the scriptures that make you feel superior. MANY women in the new and old testament taught, prophesied and preached (Debra, lydia, Priscilla, Timothy's mother and others) And God DID use adulturers & prostitues (Rhab [ancestor of OUR SAVIOR!], David [murderer & adulterer]) or is it only women you dispise Blackman7. your not a REAL black man and you clearly don't know the context of the scriptures your quoting.
1 Cor. 14:34 was speaking on a SPECIFIC situation where several women who happened to sit on opposite sides of the church from men during service, were shouting out across the aisle and asking their husbands to explain what they didn't understand. These were gentiles[aka unchurched] who did not understand the order of service or the necessary decorum. Note, that it says for them not to "speak" but NOTHING about preaching, teaching, or prophesying. Whyis that? Paul was a very specific messenger. If his intention was to stop women from leading out in the word why didn't he state that? AND why was he CONSTANTLY commending those women of the word who taught and held church service.
Ava Baby, I pray that your desire to judge people by law instead of under the forgiving grace of GOD doesn't come back to bite you. Please NEVER make a mistake because that which you give out will be returned to you pressed down shaken together and running over will men give into your bosom." [that scripture is not focused on the monetary but on the relational aspect & how we treat and judge those around us. read the surrounding scriptures]
May healing of your heart & soul and understanding to your minds be quick in Christ,
Raine
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 07:23 PM
1 Corinthians 14:34 & 35 says that a woman shouldn't SPEAK in the church...let along "preach".
Christ said, "Beware of FALSE PROPHETS". You can know the "tree" by the "fruit" that it bears.
Raine1
08-23-2007, 07:27 PM
1 Corinthians 14:34 & 35 says that a woman shouldn't SPEAK in the church...let along "preach".
Christ said, "Beware of FALSE PROPHETS". You can know the "tree" by the "fruit" that it bears.
READ THE WORD "blackman"7 and get the historical books that EXPLAIN the context. if your only reply is that then that let's me know that you are a person who is not interested in truth but in maintaining your agenda. the scripture DOES NOT SAY "LET ALONE PREACH" either! I explained the contect once or do you have a hard time learning from anyone who doesn't have male parts? Which would explain alot about the gap in your thinking and reasoning skills.
Ms. Estherhadas
08-23-2007, 07:34 PM
Maybe she wanted the issue at hand to be settled? Again, let's not blame Ms. Bynum for getting beaten up. Why do we always do that? Blame the woman - I mean this woman was beaten and stomped. When is it enough? What we need are men like Michael who are heroes in my eyes! He is a man willing to take a stand on this issue and NOT back down. The Pastor is making it worse by running away.
Isn't this what we did to, The Color Purple, the movie when it came out? We kept asking, what about him? We protested so much - that movie was nominated for 12 academy awards, including best actress to Whoopi Goldberg who was introduced in the movie as an actress, and all those awards got stomped on by all of us who whined, "what about him?" Well, what about 'ol Mister? 'Ol Mister is on the run.
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 07:35 PM
Wow Ava Baby & Blackman7 are lost and twisted. You are the scariest people on here and exactly the type of self-righteous, exclusionary "religous pharasees" that Christ was speaking about in John 10.
To say she got what she deserved?!!!? IS SICK! Ur hearts a black as night and God is NOT in that I don't care HOW many scriptures you quote!! How dare you use GOD'S WORD to degrade and belittle people who have been victimized. I pray it is simply your ignorance and not the deepest condition of a heart of rotteness and stone that spews such terrible statements!
God is restorer of things that were lost, perhaps you 2 simply read the scriptures that make you feel superior. MANY women in the new and old testament taught, prophesied and preached (Debra, lydia, Priscilla, Timothy's mother and others) And God DID use adulturers & prostitues (Rhab [ancestor of OUR SAVIOR!], David [murderer & adulterer]) or is it only women you dispise Blackman7. your not a REAL black man and you clearly don't know the context of the scriptures your quoting.
1 Cor. 14:34 was speaking on a SPECIFIC situation where several women who happened to sit on opposite sides of the church from men during service, were shouting out across the aisle and asking their husbands to explain what they didn't understand. These were gentiles[aka unchurched] who did not understand the order of service or the necessary decorum. Note, that it says for them not to "speak" but NOTHING about preaching, teaching, or prophesying. Whyis that? Paul was a very specific messenger. If his intention was to stop women from leading out in the word why didn't he state that? AND why was he CONSTANTLY commending those women of the word who taught and held church service.
Ava Baby, I pray that your desire to judge people by law instead of under the forgiving grace of GOD doesn't come back to bite you. Please NEVER make a mistake because that which you give out will be returned to you pressed down shaken together and running over will men give into your bosom." [that scripture is not focused on the monetary but on the relational aspect & how we treat and judge those around us. read the surrounding scriptures]
May healing of your heart & soul and understanding to your minds be quick in Christ,
Raine
Raine1, YOU said:
"1 Cor. 14:34 was speaking on a SPECIFIC situation where several women who happened to sit on opposite sides of the church from men during service, were shouting out across the aisle and asking their husbands to explain what they didn't understand. "
1 Corinthians 14:34 "Let your women keep silence in the churches:..."
So are you suggesting that when Paul said "Let your women keep silence in the CHURCHES", he was speaking on a "SPECIFIC situation"?
If that were true, he wouldn't have used the plural CHURCHES, meaning MORE THAN ONE.
Sorry dear, but more than one church is NOT a "SPECIFIC situation". The word "churches"(plural) means churches EVERYWHERE.
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 07:39 PM
READ THE WORD "blackman"7 and get the historical books that EXPLAIN the context. if your only reply is that then that let's me know that you are a person who is not interested in truth but in maintaining your agenda. the scripture DOES NOT SAY "LET ALONE PREACH" either! I explained the contect once or do you have a hard time learning from anyone who doesn't have male parts? Which would explain alot about the gap in your thinking and reasoning skills.
LOL you thought the word CHURCHES(meaning more than one)implied a "SPECIFIC situation"...
Talking about "reasoning skills"!!
grenetta b
08-23-2007, 07:41 PM
WHEN IS SOME OF THESE SO CALLED PREACHERS GOING TO REALIZE
YOU NEED TO GET YOUR OWN HOME RIGHT BEFORE YOU EVEN ATTEMPT TO STEP INTO GODS HOUSE AND TRY TO DELIVER HIS PEOPLE.
NO MAN IS PERFECT , BUT LEARN THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE ON THAT PEW YOU ARE STILL A SINNER IN THE EYES OF GOD. AND YOU ARE NOT GOD.
AND HE KNOWS THE CONTENT OF YOUR HEART AND HE WILL EXPOSE YOUR SINS IF YOU DON'T REPENT AND MAKE IT RIGHT.
:p
coopiepie
08-23-2007, 07:45 PM
Let's all just pray for them both. We are coming to head with that thing that's so difficult in our community...FORGIVENESS Let's see how it's handled.
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 07:46 PM
granetta b, in Matthew 7:15 Jesus Christ said to "Beware of false prophets", but I don't know if Rev Bynum is a real preacher or not. I'm not familiar with him.
candygirl9
08-23-2007, 07:52 PM
The problem with this story is two-fold. Number one, Juanita Bynum and her husband obviously do NOT practice what they preach. If God is ever present in their marriage and prayer is the key to reaching God, then why didn't they pray together over their woes? (Maybe they did, I wasn't there so I can't say). Two, Christians are WAY too star struck. This would not be BIG news if Christians didn't put Rev. Bynum and her husband up on a pedestal. They are human beings and thus they will fail you. Try putting God up on that pedestal and the actions of his "shepherds" will not leave you disappointed.
grenetta b
08-23-2007, 08:13 PM
granetta b, in Matthew 7:15 Jesus Christ said to "Beware of false prophets", but I don't know if Rev Bynum is a real preacher or not. I'm not familiar with him.
:) THIS DOES NOT EXCUSE HIS ACTIONS SWEETY. CAUSE IF THEY WERE HAVING PROBLEMS IN THEIR MARRIAGE. THEY SHOULD HAVE COME TO THAT CONGREGATION AND TOLD THEM THEY ARE STEPPING DOWN. UNTIL THEY GET THEMSELVES TOGETHER. IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER CAME TO THE POINT WHERE YOU TWO MAKE A MOCKERY OUT OF YOURSELVES IN PUBLIC.
ESPHESIANS 6:25,29
HUSBANDS, LOVE YOUR WIVES. EVEN AS CHRIST ALSO LOVED THE CHURCH, AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR IT.
ESPHESIANS 6:28 SO OUGHT MEN TO LOVE THEIR WIVE AS THEIR OWN BODIES. HE THAT LOVETH HIS WIFE LOVETH HIMSELF.
29:FOR NO MAN EVER YET HATED HIS OWN FLESH; BUT NOURISHETH AND CHERISHETH IT, EVEN AS THE LORD THE CHURCH.
PASTORS ARE SUPPOSE TO BE SHEPPARD OVER THEIR PEOPLE: LOVING THEM ENOUGH TO NOT LET ANYTHING KEEP THEM FROM RECEIVING THE WORD, TRUTH AND SPIRIT OF GOD AND NOT LEAVING THEM TO BE EATEN BY WOLVES.
Steadfast
08-23-2007, 08:25 PM
I totally agree. When he left abruptly she should have went the other way. He obviously needed time to cool off. Like you I'm not excusing his action but sometimes, as women when need to step back and let that man cool down.
I 2nd that; y r u following this man when u r filled with negative emotion both of them were out of the will of God; what this is showing us is that we all fall short and even if we know the Bible from the front to the back when u r going thru something and rely on ur own understanidng and not God's -whatever it may b nothing good comes from it- I am praying 4 both Ministers in their crisis
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 08:26 PM
Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit unto your own husbands, AS UNTO THE LORD
That means that however you would submit unto the Lord, you should submit unto your HUSBAND, in the SAME WAY.
I don't know about you, but I would submit unto the Lord with FAITH, LOVE, DEVOTION, OBEDIENCE, LONGSUFFERING, and LOYALTY.
A GOOD wife submits unto her HUSBAND in the SAME WAY.
Justpassion
08-23-2007, 08:27 PM
First, Giving honor to God for allowing me to get this message to who ever may read it.
I will not judge this issue for God will. I will leave a message for my sister in the Lord in hopes that she will read all of the replies and absorb the truth in those packed with powerful messages from the Lord.
Prophetess Bynum Weeks, if you are able to read this message, please know that whatever state the enemy is trying to place your heart, mind, spirit and life in "it won't work". For you are a true woman of God and a Firm believer in the word of God. Although the enemy has come to destroy, you are already aware that he would eventually come. He comes to kill every good thing in the lives of all of God's children, just as he comes to steal all that God has and is still blessing us with, and last but not least, to destroy the temple of God in you. My sister in the Lord, the God of heaven has promised you that no weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; I don't care who the ememy sends into our lives, It won't work. I can say so many things to you but only you can act on the will and the power of God for your life. Please go to the 37th chapter of PSALMS and read the entire chapter in peace, it has been and still is a great help in the lives of so many hurting women.
THERE ARE SO MANY ANGRY MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD WHO ARE READING ABOUT THIS INCIDENT WITH THE PROPHETESS AND HER HUSBAND, PLEASE READ PSALMS 37 AS WELL THEN LET GO AND LET GOD.
PSALMS 37:1-7 FRET not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.
2 For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.
3 Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.
4 Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.
5 Commit thy way unto the LORD; and trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
6 And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgment as the noonday.
7 Rest in the Lord, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
GOD BLESS YOU MY SISTER!
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 08:38 PM
"THERE ARE SO MANY ANGRY MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD WHO ARE READING ABOUT THIS INCIDENT WITH THE PROPHETESS AND HER HUSBAND, PLEASE READ PSALMS 37 AS WELL THEN LET GO AND LET GOD."
If they are "angry", they are NOT "men and women of God".
How many times did Christ say to FORGIVE your brother?
Seventy TIMES seven!
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Matthew 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
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According to my calculations, 70 X 7 equals 490 times.
That's how many times he'd be forgiven by TRUE men of God!
Raine1
08-23-2007, 08:40 PM
LOL you thought the word CHURCHES(meaning more than one)implied a "SPECIFIC situation"...
Talking about "reasoning skills"!!
Uh duh I KNOW churches means MORE THAN ONE sad one. Specific means that he was speaking to a specific issue occuring and MORE than one church. Good God man are you THAT limited?
Raine1
08-23-2007, 08:43 PM
"THERE ARE SO MANY ANGRY MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD WHO ARE READING ABOUT THIS INCIDENT WITH THE PROPHETESS AND HER HUSBAND, PLEASE READ PSALMS 37 AS WELL THEN LET GO AND LET GOD."
If they are "angry", they are NOT "men and women of God".
How many times did Christ say to FORGIVE your brother?
Seventy TIMES seven!
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Matthew 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
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According to my calculations, 70 X 7 equals 490 times.
That's how many times he'd be forgiven by TRUE men of God!
For example: The SPECIFIC ISSUE of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE that occurs in MANY CHURCHES (plural) throughout the body of Christ. OK? Get it? Got it?... GOOD.
Raine1
08-23-2007, 08:50 PM
For example: The SPECIFIC ISSUE of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE that occurs in MANY CHURCHES (plural) throughout the body of Christ. OK? Get it? Got it?... GOOD.
God said "BE Angry & sin not" Christ got angry on SEVERAL (plural) occasions yet, was w/out sin. we CAN be angry righteous anger is of God, what's important is what WE do w/ our anger hopefully this will spur women to teach the truth of domestic violence's impact tp young men & women IN & OUT of the church since abuse is not God's will he even admonished slave owners to treat their servants w/ respect & compassion, how much more so their wives? we are meant for love NOT ABUSE! read Song ofSolomon/Song of Songs.
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 08:50 PM
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
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Raine1, the above verses CLEARLY STATE that women are to KEEP SILENCE in the CHURCHES. If you can't percieve the TRUTH in those verses, then that's on YOU.
notthemomma819
08-23-2007, 08:52 PM
It is sad when we hear about abuse. Especially about well known respectful people. It is truly sad that we have we are posting our feelings for them when this goes on every day, every hour, every minute and every second in the world. We all have been there done that. We read about it in the newspapers (like the cop that is accused of killing his girlfriend and their unborn daughter here in Ohio), on TV, all types of medias. Though I was never mentioned in any media, I had been abused, and done some of the world worst things to keep my man - even follow him to getting my butt kicked. One day, I woke up, and said no more. I left. I forgave that man - the father of my children, but did not forget. You can't change no one but yourself. My heart is not heavy.. and I still pity him. He is doing it to someone else.
If the love and respect is not there, then there is nothing there for you. I pray for all the Juanita Bynums in the world that they can say I got away and look towards the future. Women, you have not been mentioned by name as Juanita, you know who you are. And you have to pray for all the Thomas Weeks, that they see what they have done....they are not GOD, superman, a man, they are animals. They are uncapable of loving no one, not even themselves. This might be wrong but I pity him. No woman in their right mind will ever be with him. And his church, I know you have to forgive, but I would find it hard to sit in his pew to follow his teachings. I hope this incident opens all our eyes...if abused, get out. Love yourself. If the abuser, leave, run and get help, and pray you never do it again. Thomas turn your self in. You don't want to do anything foolish or get beat down by someone else (like a real man or the police department). You have hit bottom, there is nowhere but up. God Bless them both.
stillgot1t46
08-23-2007, 08:53 PM
I really think itdisgrace when we lay hands on one another. We also must remember that we're all human regardless of our position in society. I think the bishop needs to turn himself in. Prayer is fine but we must act on our prayers. We pray in faith and the bible states faith without works is dead.
SUPERYOUNGOLDHEAD#1
08-23-2007, 08:55 PM
Enough said...
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 08:57 PM
For example: The SPECIFIC ISSUE of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE that occurs in MANY CHURCHES (plural) throughout the body of Christ. OK? Get it? Got it?... GOOD.
LOL I don't hit defective women. A woman at her BEST was created to be a HELPMEET to her man.
A wife who makes her husband unhappy is an INFERIOR woman.
The SUPERIOR woman knows to OBEY and SUBMIT to her man!
busy211
08-23-2007, 09:01 PM
this don't make any sense, he is a coward to the tenth degree, if i was anywhere near him, i would punch his lights out for hitting a lady, If it is over between you two, then leave amicably,
This behavior is a total disgrace.
satin
08-23-2007, 09:02 PM
Its funny how people can speak on something they have not been though. I had to write because this topic eats at me. I left my Pastor husband after 6 years of marriage when he put my head though a wall. I was covinced that it was God's will to stay with him until I got hurt. You don't understand that some of the most violent men go to church every week. They are saved but alot of them come from violent abusive backgrounds that never get headed. When met my ex I was so caught up in finding a saved man that I ignored the signs of an abuser. :confused: I told people but I was pressured to stay because of our “image” I feel for Sis Bynum. I know what it feels like to be in the spotlight, having to smile and pretend everything is alright. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking that the church will talk about abuse of any form (child, domestic, sexual). The church turned their backs on me citing "You must have not been praying for that brother enough” I still battle with trust issues and fear of men in general but I trust God. I just a little more careful who comes into my life. . Let’s pray for them but let’s talk about it too….we should demand it from out Pastors!!!!:mad:
satin
08-23-2007, 09:03 PM
Sorry double post.
busy211
08-23-2007, 09:05 PM
Mr. Weeks, should loose his title as a bishop. A true Bishop and man of God would never treat his wife like this. Although it will be a challenge for Juanita, she should continue to hold on to her faith and watch God bring her through this and she will have a testimony t help other battered women. Is it true that Mr. Weeks had been married before and had nothing to bring to the table because his first wife got all of his money? If he deceived Juanita, he will never prosper. If I were his parents, I would be ashame to know I have a son that does not practice what he preaches. I think we should pray for himd that God will expose hyprocrites. If I had the power I would recommend to the board, Mr Weeks, need to step down as a leader, and make it right with God and his wife. But if I was Juanita, I would divorce him, he is not worth living in an abusive relationship and I am pretty sure this is not his first time hitting her. The deacons of his church, need to whip him and let him see how it feels to be beat!!!!!!!!!
Raine1
08-23-2007, 09:08 PM
LOL I don't hit defective women. A woman at her BEST was created to be a HELPMEET to her man.
A wife who makes her husband unhappy is an INFERIOR woman.
The SUPERIOR woman PLEASES her husband and makes her man glad!
"BLACKMAN"7 MY mistake for continuing to speak to you. I initially felt sorry 4 you but that last comment was from a person so intrenched in ignorance that logical conversation is waste of the precious time God has given me to enjoy & work on His planet. You are simply sad & pathetic....ridiculous I just hope you are not involved in a relationship because YOU are clearly an abuser and disrespectful of women, whom you seem to have a great deal of hostility & animosity towards. I'm not sure what your mom did to or didn't do for you, you thought & comments reveal your weakness.
Signed,
a women celebrating 15+ years of marraige to A REAL & STRONG RESPECTRFUL LOVING BLACKMAN WHO LOVES ME OH SO RIGHT!!!
madameqween
08-23-2007, 09:10 PM
I Feel That As People We Should Respect Each Other And What We Go Threw If This Would Have Happen To One Of Us #1 It Would Not Be All Over The Air We Should Not Feel Like Just Because They Are Church Leader's That This Is Bigger Than It Is It's A Mess Just Cause It Is A Husband And Wife And One Thing We Need To Know Is That You Should Treat People Like You Want To Be Treated Before They Are Pastors They Are Humans Made Of Flesh And The Bible Says The Arms Of Flesh Will Fail You Everytime So We Need To Stop Actting Like Church Pepole Don't Make Mistakes They Do And Also Pray That You Are Crossing Every T And Dotting Every I Cause As Soon As You Do One Thing Wrong Your Story Will Be Next On The Air:)
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 09:10 PM
I have no use for a woman that makes me angry. That type of woman is as useless as a car you cannot drive. I often tell brothas to LEAVE when they COMPLAIN to me about their troublesome blackwomen. They'll call the COPS on you(Slave massa 911), and white men with GUNS(the police) who have taken MANY an innocent black man's life!(Amadou Diallo and Timothy Thomas come to mind).
Raine1
08-23-2007, 09:11 PM
Its funny how people can speak on something they have not been though. I had to write because this topic eats at me. I left my Pastor husband after 6 years of marriage when he put my head though a wall. I was covinced that it was God's will to stay with him until I got hurt. You don't understand that some of the most violent men go to church every week. They are saved but alot of them come from violent abusive backgrounds that never get headed. When met my ex I was so caught up in finding a saved man that I ignored the signs of an abuser. :confused: I told people but I was pressured to stay because of our “image” I feel for Sis Bynum. I know what it feels like to be in the spotlight, having to smile and pretend everything is alright. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking that the church will talk about abuse of any form (child, domestic, sexual). The church turned their backs on me citing "You must have not been praying for that brother enough” I still battle with trust issues and fear of men in general but I trust God. I just a little more careful who comes into my life. . Let’s pray for them but let’s talk about it too….we should demand it from out Pastors!!!!:mad:
yes can we PLEASE begin to really, truly, & seriously address this issue NOT just talk? This is a ministry that is not offered in most churches
Raine1
08-23-2007, 09:12 PM
I have no use for a woman that makes me angry. That type of woman is as useless as a car you cannot drive. I often tell brothas to LEAVE when they COMPLAIN to me about their troublesome blackwomen. They'll call the COPS on you(Slave massa 911), and white men with GUNS(the police) who have taken MANY an innocent black man's life!(Amadou Diallo and Timothy Thomas come to mind).
that foot in your mouth must taste pretty good because you just keep putting it in there
grenetta b
08-23-2007, 09:14 PM
:p ABUSE IS AWFUL AND WHEN IT HITS YOUR HOME IT'S DEVASTING. I LOST MY NIECE TO ABUSE HER BOYFRIEND STABBED HER 87 TIMES WHILE HER SON WAS IN THE HOME SLEEP.
ON ANY PART ABUSE IS BAD IF YOUR A PREACHER , TEACHER, EDUCATOR, OR ANY WALK OF LIFE.
IF YOUR THAT ANGRY SEEK HELP BEFORE YOU DSTROY SOMEONES LIFE. AND LEAVE THEIR FAMILY DESOLATE TO MOURN.
:mad:
busy211
08-23-2007, 09:15 PM
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
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Raine1, the above verses CLEARLY STATE that women are to KEEP SILENCE in the CHURCHES. If you can't percieve the TRUTH in those verses, then that's on YOU.
That scripture has been taken out of contents. Research your history. Paul was speaking to the church of Corinth because the women were unruly and he told them to keep silent in the church. Thats whats wrong with these jack-leg preachers and men, they uses scriptures to supress women to control them, in fact, did you read the scriptures where God tell a husband to love his wife as Christ Love the Church. So if you are a jack-let christian man and is abusing your wife, you have got to answer to God. God sees everything. You may fool people,but you can never fool God!!!! And I say to these passive women, stop allowing this, God has given you the tools to defend yourself and you should use it!! HOT GRITS!!!!
NorthEasterner
08-23-2007, 09:16 PM
These preachers are all crazy and full of crap. That countryboy preacher should have kept on stepping. He probably figured out his wife is more in love with "Jesus" than she is with him. If any of you watch her on tv you can see she is a nutcase anyway. Don't feel sorry for her though. She's going to run to Oprah, CNN and the rest and accuse all Black men of being batters just like the white people always do.
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 09:22 PM
"BLACKMAN"7 MY mistake for continuing to speak to you. I initially felt sorry 4 you but that last comment was from a person so intrenched in ignorance that logical conversation is waste of the precious time God has given me to enjoy & work on His planet. You are simply sad & pathetic....ridiculous I just hope you are not involved in a relationship because YOU are clearly an abuser and disrespectful of women, whom you seem to have a great deal of hostility & animosity towards. I'm not sure what your mom did to or didn't do for you, you thought & comments reveal your weakness.
Signed,
a women celebrating 15+ years of marraige to A REAL & STRONG RESPECTRFUL LOVING BLACKMAN WHO LOVES ME OH SO RIGHT!!!
No, I don't kiss womens behinds if that's what you mean. Unlike MANY of the black descendants of slaves in this country, i'm a REAL MAN!
Genesis 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he SHALL RULE OVER THEE.
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No, I don't kiss no woman's behind. If she displeases me, I dump her like YESTERDAYS GARBAGE.
Like Genesis 3:16 says, a MAN shall RULE over his wife. And those words came from the Almighty God...not me!
Justpassion
08-23-2007, 09:23 PM
If they are "angry", they are NOT "men and women of God".
Go to Ephesians 4:26, the BIBLE tells us to "Be ye angry, and sin not"...
as to the message here was not addressed to you, it is for a specific person.
GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! If you do not have a BIBLE, I will be more than happy to send you one.:)
christinefamous
08-23-2007, 09:23 PM
.........First off, I know there is NO EXCUSE for Bishop Weeks' actions. I just want to comment on him being villified......this man is Pastor Bynum's husband; whatever came of their meeting at the hotel, he apparently decided to walk away from it......a wife knows how to deal with her husband, and knows whether she can go back-and-forth with him, or whether she should use sublety.......she should have let this man walk away; unless GOD takes one of them tonight, there's always tomorrow.........BOTH of these individuals are in my prayers tonight.
grenetta b
08-23-2007, 09:23 PM
These preachers are all crazy and full of crap. That countryboy preacher should have kept on stepping. He probably figured out his wife is more in love with "Jesus" than she is with him. If any of you watch her on tv you can see she is a nutcase anyway. Don't feel sorry for her though. She's going to run to Oprah, CNN and the rest and accuse all Black men of being batters just like the white people always do.
IF THIS IS THE WAY YOU THNK SWEETY THEN YOUR DEAD WRG A MAN HAS RESPECT FOR A WOMAN AND HIMSELF TO WALK AWAY. NO MATTER IF HE IS A HYPOCRITE OR NOT. WHAT IF THAT WAS YOUR FAMILY BEING BEATIN WOULD YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME MENTALITY OF THINKING. NO I DON'T THINK SO.
SO HAVE A LITTLE COMPASSION CAUSE EVERYMAN CAN FALL BY THE WAYSIDE.
ABUSE IS AWFUL AND WHEN IT HITS YOUR HOME IT'S DEVASTING. I LOST MY NIECE TO ABUSE HER BOYFRIEND STABBED HER 87 TIMES WHILE HER SON WAS IN THE HOME SLEEP.
ON ANY PART ABUSE IS BAD IF YOUR A PREACHER , TEACHER, EDUCATOR, OR ANY WALK OF LIFE.
IF YOUR THAT ANGRY SEEK HELP BEFORE YOU DESTROY SOMEONES LIFE. AND LEAVE THEIR FAMILY DESOLATE TO MOURN.
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 09:30 PM
If they are "angry", they are NOT "men and women of God".
Go to Ephesians 4:26, the BIBLE tells us to "Be ye angry, and sin not"...
as to the message here was not addressed to you, it is for a specific person.
GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! If you do not have a BIBLE, I will be more than happy to send you one.:)
Thanks, but I don't need a bible. The words of Jesus Christ is good enough for me:
Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam [is] in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
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Perhaps you HYPOCRITES out there judging Bishop Weeks would do good to heed those wise words!
Paula H
08-23-2007, 09:32 PM
I wonder if this is the first time he has hit her...probably not. I hope she will practice what she preaches (women empowerment) and kick him to the curb because women are dying daily from abusive husbands.
busy211
08-23-2007, 09:32 PM
Mr. Weeks brought this on himself. He should not use the title of a Bishop. If he was a good husband, then he would have not hit her even though she continue to approach him. Who are you defending!!!! No women deserves this under no circumstances!!!
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 09:34 PM
.........First off, I know there is NO EXCUSE for Bishop Weeks' actions. I just want to comment on him being villified......this man is Pastor Bynum's husband; whatever came of their meeting at the hotel, he apparently decided to walk away from it......a wife knows how to deal with her husband, and knows whether she can go back-and-forth with him, or whether she should use sublety.......she should have let this man walk away; unless GOD takes one of them tonight, there's always tomorrow.........BOTH of these individuals are in my prayers tonight.
"First off, I know there is NO EXCUSE for Bishop Weeks' actions."
He may not have had an "excuse", but maybe he had a reason.
busy211
08-23-2007, 09:35 PM
Blackman7, you are quoting a lot of scriptures, but the question is, are you living what you are quoting?
christinefamous
08-23-2007, 09:39 PM
And it MUST have been a good one......two BIG personalities (ego's) are bound to clash........his walking away-a blow to hers.....whatever she said in response........well, we all know the rest of the story from there.....
Raine1
08-23-2007, 09:40 PM
Thanks, but I don't need a bible. The words of Jesus Christ is good enough for me:
Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam [is] in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
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Perhaps you HYPOCRITES out there judging Rev Bynum would do good to heed those wise words!
wow the man that JUST called women GARBAGE is calling other people unholy & hypocritical. I'm sure he's hit his fair share of women & then blamed them for it. HE'S SOOO full of hate reallove can never enter in. GOD doesn't hate us!!! YOU do. GOD does not give men permission to hit women. Perhaps you have the Bible mixed upw/ that other text.
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 09:40 PM
I hate to say this but some of yall sound like white folks, but after 400 years of SLAVERY, RAPE, BREEDING, BRAINWASHING, BEING WHIPPED, PROGRAMMED, BOUGHT, SOLD, DEHUMANIZED, CUT OFF FROM YOUR CULTURE, LANGUAGE, VALUES, and CONDITIONING, in the case of "african americans", what more could you expect???
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 09:42 PM
Blackman7, you are quoting a lot of scriptures, but the question is, are you living what you are quoting?
What difference does it make?
I can't get you into heaven. Each man can only save himself.
Raine1
08-23-2007, 09:44 PM
Blackman7, you are quoting a lot of scriptures, but the question is, are you living what you are quoting?
He's not living anything if we go by what he's written so far talking about tossing women out like a "yesterday's garbage" and other degrading topics of hate he keeps spewing. He's one of those people who uses scripture to bind people into subserviance (in case he's wondering that is NOT THE same thing, meaning OR THE INTENT OF SUBMISSION which God calls us to)
Justpassion
08-23-2007, 09:45 PM
Thanks, but I don't need a bible. The words of Jesus Christ is good enough for me:
Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam [is] in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
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Perhaps you HYPOCRITES out there judging Rev Bynum would do good to heed those wise words!
Perhaps you HYPOCRITES out there judging Rev Bynum would do good to heed those wise words![/ I have no idea who the hypocrites are that you are talking about but you have contadicted your statement. you just posted a scripture that says judge not, but you are so argumentive and defensive as though you hit the prophetess Dr. Bynum yourself. It's getting hot here and I don't find arguing about a situation that I did not witness a bit fun. PRAYING FOR THE PROPHETESS.
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 09:46 PM
wow the man that JUST called women GARBAGE is calling other people unholy & hypocritical. I'm sure he's hit his fair share of women & then blamed them for it. HE'S SOOO full of hate reallove can never enter in. GOD doesn't hate us!!! YOU do. GOD does not give men permission to hit women. Perhaps you have the Bible mixed upw/ that other text.
The word "whore" is written 148 times in the bible. The truth is often ugly.
Get used to it.
Raine1
08-23-2007, 09:46 PM
reports have come out that she met w/ authorities in an undisclosed location and filed the police report!!
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 09:48 PM
Perhaps you HYPOCRITES out there judging Rev Bynum would do good to heed those wise words![/ I have no idea who the hypocrites are that you are talking about but you have contadicted your statement. you just posted a scripture that says judge not, but you are so argumentive and defensive as though you hit the prophetess Dr. Bynum yourself. It's getting hot here and I don't find arguing about a situation that I did not witness a bit fun. PRAYING FOR THE PROPHETESS.
Sorry. Never heard of the man until today.
True words are not fine sounding, and fine sounding words are not true.
grenetta b
08-23-2007, 09:49 PM
What difference does it make?
I can't get you into heaven. Each man can only save himself.
GOD SAID GO YE INTO ALL THE WORLD AND PREACH THE GOSPEL. IF YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD WITHIN YOU SWEETY . THEN YOU WOULD KNOW HOW TO SAVE A PERSON. AND NOT BE SELFISH WITH WHAT WAS GIVEN UNTO YOU FREELY.
FREELY GIVEN FREELY RECIEVE:p
grenetta b
08-23-2007, 09:52 PM
The word "whore" is written 148 times in the bible. The truth is often ugly.
Get used to it.
THE WORD WHORE IN THE BIBLE WAS GOD DESCRIBING THE EVIL ONE. THE ONE WHO DECEIVES THE HARLOT OF ALL DECEPTION. HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT A WOMAN.
SWEETY STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED:p
Justpassion
08-23-2007, 09:54 PM
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I hate to say this but some of yall sound like white folks, but after 400 years of SLAVERY, RAPE, BREEDING, BRAINWASHING, BEING WHIPPED, PROGRAMMED, BOUGHT, SOLD, DEHUMANIZED, CUT OFF FROM YOUR CULTURE, LANGUAGE, VALUES, and CONDITIONING, in the case of "african americans", what more could you expect???
White Folk, I don't think so, but I'm sure that there are some caucasian people here, but let's be logical, does that really :confused: have any significance to this topic?
It is o.k. for the ''white folk'' to speak on behalf of their sister in the lord right?
and you can miss us with all that racist stuff. You have clearly let the enemy into your mind this time around. Let's Pray.
busy211
08-23-2007, 09:55 PM
Blackman7, you really have some serious issues, its sad to know that you actually think you are going to go to heaven with a heart like that. Blackman, who hurt you to the point that you speak like that, or is this the only way you can get attention!!
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 09:57 PM
THE WORD WHORE IN THE BIBLE WAS GOD DESCRIBING THE EVIL ONE. THE ONE WHO DECEIVES THE HARLOT OF ALL DECEPTION. HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT A WOMAN.
SWEETY STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED:p
Here is but one example. A man marrying a woman and finding she's NOT a virgin is what it's talking about:
Deuteronomy 22:13 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her,
22:14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid:
22:15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate:
22:16 And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her;
22:17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.
22:18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him;
22:19 And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.
22:20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
22:21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the WHORE in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 10:01 PM
Blackman7, you really have some serious issues, its sad to know that you actually think you are going to go to heaven with a heart like that. Blackman, who hurt you to the point that you speak like that, or is this the only way you can get attention!!
Oh, so are you GOD now???
I thought that only the WHITE MAN had a "god complex"! :)
sunshine35
08-23-2007, 10:02 PM
I think MB has very interesting topics. However, I do feel a lot of issues can be traced back to the church. It is the responsibility of the church and its members to help heal the ills of society. I think what has happened to Minister Bynum is a shame. I think it shows that no one is exempt from being a battered wife.
Raine1
08-23-2007, 10:02 PM
What difference does it make?
I can't get you into heaven. Each man can only save himself.
I'm out i'll leave this board to the simple minded in search of those who are educated and aware. Instead of conversing with people who blame the smallness of their lives on "the white man" and their failure to succeed on not having the "right woman". Whenever people spend more time blaming then living, that is true evidence that they use excuses to justify their on inability to try, acheive or reach new height and experiences. You have small time mind and no manhood. If/When you REALLY get a hold of Jesus' love and intentions for His people, you'll be embarrassed at your words. No women no matter how low she has gotten is garbage to GOD and everytime GOD used the term "whore" HE was not always talking about women. He called the entire nation of Israel engaged in whoredom, he even called men whores for worshiping false gods and believing themselves to be greater than they were (hhhmmmm...) I feel soo very sorry for you, i can't even describe the heartbreak as you reveal your confusion. I am going to pray for you but I AM SO APALLED by your comments and the fact that you think that you have a legitimate view of women and God's intention for them. Forgive your mother, grandmother, greatgrandmother for whatever it is that your holding on to. Be healed. Trust Christ. If you put half the energy into valuing other people and seeing people as individuals and being positive in Christ, AS YOU DO in blaming "women & the white man" you might see some REAL change and PROGRESS IN YOUR LIFE. Because NO one holds you back like negativity towards other people. You can blame others all day long, but in the end it's the man in the mirror that is responsible for your choices, failures and shortcomings.
Be Blessed in Truth,
Raine
christinefamous
08-23-2007, 10:03 PM
TOO Black-&-White for me--nite y'all--GOD BLESS.........
Justpassion
08-23-2007, 10:05 PM
TO grenettab and busy211, Please do not respond to Blackman7's postings, it is a trick from the enemy, this should be a peaceful, prayerful topic. We are not the victims in the situation.
God Bless the two of you.:)
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 10:06 PM
GOD SAID GO YE INTO ALL THE WORLD AND PREACH THE GOSPEL. IF YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD WITHIN YOU SWEETY . THEN YOU WOULD KNOW HOW TO SAVE A PERSON. AND NOT BE SELFISH WITH WHAT WAS GIVEN UNTO YOU FREELY.
FREELY GIVEN FREELY RECIEVE:p
grenetta dear, what I meant was that no man can get anyone else into heaven on Judgement Day. God will be the Ultimate Judge on that day.
grenetta b
08-23-2007, 10:09 PM
Here is but one example. A man marrying a woman and finding she's NOT a virgin is what it's talking about:
Deuteronomy 22:13 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her,
22:14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid:
22:15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate:
22:16 And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her;
22:17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.
22:18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him;
22:19 And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.
22:20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
22:21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the WHORE in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
WHEN JESUS CAME ALL OLD THINGS BECAME NEW. HE WIPED AWAY OUR SINS AND GAVE US A BRAND NEW BEGINNING. AND THE OLD TESTAMENT SPEAKS OF HIS COMING. READ MATTHEW CHAPTER 5 AND LEARN ABOUT JESUS AND THE LAW. THE OLD TESTAMENT IS IN THE BIBLE AS A REMINDER UNTO US NOT FOR US TO DWELL IN AND MAKE IT LAW. CAUSE GOD SENT A SACRIFICE TO FREE US FROM THE SINS OF OUR PAST.:p
grenetta b
08-23-2007, 10:13 PM
TO grenettab and busy211, Please do not respond to Blackman7's postings, it is a trick from the enemy, this should be a peaceful, prayerful topic. We are not the victims in the situation.
God Bless the two of you.:)
EVEN THE DEVIL NEEDS AN UNDERSTANDING SWEETY PRAY THAT HE GETS IT:D
BLACKMAN7 SWEETY SEEK WHAT IS INSIDE YOUR HEART SWEETY AND NOT LET THE DEVIL DECEIVE YOU INTO THE WRG THINKING, JUST REMEMBER GODS GREATEST COMMANDMENT WAS CHARITY AND ITS NUMBER ONE
busy211
08-23-2007, 10:15 PM
Thanks for reminding us what going on in this forum.You are so right, this is a time of praying and we will not allow the enemy to get us off track. I have to search my soul for judging Bishop Weeks, but I was very disgusted with his behavior. I believe we are living in the last days, and the enemy is doing his job to destroy the children of God and the ministry that God has built. But I also believe that God is exposing things and I believe Juanita will come out stronger than ever and being batter will help her, to help other women. I will pray for Blackman7 that God will turn him around, but in the meantime, I will pray that my daughers will neve met him or others like him. Thanks again and be blessed.
Justpassion
08-23-2007, 10:15 PM
Remember, God Is Love!
D_bkny
08-23-2007, 10:20 PM
I would like to say that I don't believe that a Bishop could do such a horrible thing to someone, however, I have come to realize through others talking about abusive relationships within the walls of the church beginning with the pastors. I knew a woman who was almost killed by her extremely abusive minister husband and the church members looked the other way as she attended church regularly with bruises. No only did he abuse her physically who also dated half the church.
(excerpt taken from Venus56 posting)
Are you for real and no one took a stand. I'm sorry, but as a christian I could not and would not have kept quiet. The pastor is beating his wife. I would call him out, bring it to the attention of the board or something. Now tell me, if I know my pastor was beating his wife, what message could he possibly bring on a Sunday morning that I will listen to. He would have to get help first.
Justpassion
08-23-2007, 10:21 PM
God Bless and Goodnight. I have'nt heard from busy211 yet. If you stay online remind her to look at the last message he left for me.
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 10:21 PM
Remember, God Is Love!
Goodnite, and don't forget why He FLOODED THE WORLD and blew up Sodom and Gamorrah.
Justpassion
08-23-2007, 10:24 PM
God Bless and don't you forget why he did what he did to Sodom and Gomorrah.
Again, God Bless!
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 10:24 PM
I'm out i'll leave this board to the simple minded in search of those who are educated and aware. Instead of conversing with people who blame the smallness of their lives on "the white man" and their failure to succeed on not having the "right woman". Whenever people spend more time blaming then living, that is true evidence that they use excuses to justify their on inability to try, acheive or reach new height and experiences. You have small time mind and no manhood. If/When you REALLY get a hold of Jesus' love and intentions for His people, you'll be embarrassed at your words. No women no matter how low she has gotten is garbage to GOD and everytime GOD used the term "whore" HE was not always talking about women. He called the entire nation of Israel engaged in whoredom, he even called men whores for worshiping false gods and believing themselves to be greater than they were (hhhmmmm...) I feel soo very sorry for you, i can't even describe the heartbreak as you reveal your confusion. I am going to pray for you but I AM SO APALLED by your comments and the fact that you think that you have a legitimate view of women and God's intention for them. Forgive your mother, grandmother, greatgrandmother for whatever it is that your holding on to. Be healed. Trust Christ. If you put half the energy into valuing other people and seeing people as individuals and being positive in Christ, AS YOU DO in blaming "women & the white man" you might see some REAL change and PROGRESS IN YOUR LIFE. Because NO one holds you back like negativity towards other people. You can blame others all day long, but in the end it's the man in the mirror that is responsible for your choices, failures and shortcomings.
Be Blessed in Truth,
Raine
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"When an asz climbs a ladder, we may find wisdom in women"----Yoruba proverb
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 10:26 PM
God Bless and don't you forget why he did what he did to Sodom and Gomorrah.
Again, God Bless!
Goodnite again. Sodom and Gamorrah don't apply to me.
I'm not gay. :)
spiceyspirit
08-23-2007, 10:27 PM
Life is cause and effect. We all need to look in the mirror and check out what we see. Some times people can say things to really make you mad. Just because you are a christian or man of the cloth we are all human beings. What ever the disa greement was really had to set him off in order for him to abuse her like that was not the only time. He is running because it happen many times before. Think before you talk. Like Sophie said bust his head in first then pray.
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 10:30 PM
Thanks for reminding us what going on in this forum.You are so right, this is a time of praying and we will not allow the enemy to get us off track. I have to search my soul for judging Bishop Weeks, but I was very disgusted with his behavior. I believe we are living in the last days, and the enemy is doing his job to destroy the children of God and the ministry that God has built. But I also believe that God is exposing things and I believe Juanita will come out stronger than ever and being batter will help her, to help other women. I will pray for Blackman7 that God will turn him around, but in the meantime, I will pray that my daughers will neve met him or others like him. Thanks again and be blessed.
And I pray that my SONS will NEVER be cursed to have a woman like YOU!
D_bkny
08-23-2007, 10:30 PM
This is the reason why so many people can't go to the church for help. or they are leaving the church. anytime you can't get delivered from some things like this within the church, then where do you go. Where do a man go if he want help from abusing his wife, not the church cause you see it is happening in the church.
How can you teach me on how to love my husband or teach my husband how to love me if you are not doing it. My pastor told me that if he as a Pastor is beating his wife, then you better believe his deacon or associate minister will or is doing the same thing, because the blessings and cursings flow from the head down.
i am writing a TV mini-series on "The Secrets Within" i want to know why do so many people attend church, shout in church, cry and run all over the church and then get home and get abused or do the abusing, or can't get along with their spouse in private as well as public, abusing their children.
THE SECRETS WITHIN NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED
PRICELESSPANTIES
So many people attend church...and then get home and get abused or do the abusing. Where are you getting your facts from? Where are the numbers? What's the percentage? Do you honestly think that in the church today, the men that abuse their wives outways the men trying to raise their families with christian values?
Blackman7
08-23-2007, 10:32 PM
The bottom line is that what a man and his wife do is NONE OF OUR BUSINESS.
Like the BIBLE says, What God has joined together, let NO man take apart!
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