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04-19-2007, 03:32 AM
Microwaved Water - See What It Does To Plants

Marshall Dudley of Knoxville, TN shared the following information about his granddaughter, Arielle Reynolds' science fair experiment.

Below is a sience fair project that my granddaughter did for 2006. In it she took filered water and divided it into two parts. The first part she heated to boiling in a pan on the stove, and the second part she heated to boiling in a microwave. Then after cooling she used the water to water two identical plants to see if there would be any difference in the growth between the normal boiled water and the water boiled in a microwave. She was thinking that the structure or energy of the water may be compromised by microwave. As it turned out, even she was amazed at the difference.

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Ten Reasons to Throw out your Microwave Oven
FORENSIC RESEARCH DOCUMENT
Prepared By: William P. Kopp

From the conclusions of the Swiss, Russian and German scientific clinical studies, we can no longer ignore the microwave oven sitting in our kitchens. Based on this research, we will conclude this article with the following:

1). Continually eating food processed from a microwave oven causes long term - permanent - brain damage by "shorting out"
electrical impulses in the brain [de-polarizing or de-magnetizing the brain tissue].

2). The human body cannot metabolize [break down] the unknown by-products created in microwaved food.

3). Male and female hormone production is shut down and/or altered by continually eating microwaved foods.

4). The effects of microwaved food by-products are residual [long term, permanent] within the human body.

5). Minerals, vitamins, and nutrients of all microwaved food is reduced or altered so that the human body gets little or no benefit, or the human body absorbs altered compounds that cannot be broken down.

6). The minerals in vegetables are altered into cancerous free radicals when cooked in microwave ovens.

7). Microwaved foods cause stomach and intestinal cancerous growths [tumors]. This may explain the rapidly increased rate of
colon cancer in America.

8). The prolonged eating of microwaved foods causes cancerous cells to increase in human blood.

9). Continual ingestion of microwaved food causes immune system deficiencies through lymph gland and blood serum alterations.

10). Eating microwaved food causes loss of memory, concentration, emotional instability, and a decrease of intelligence.

Brian Hunt
04-19-2007, 10:34 AM
Junk science at it's best. Keep your microwave (http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp).

And here is a link to info on William P. Kopp and that bogus study (http://lighthousepatriotjournal.wordpress.com/2006/08/08/myth-blaster-microwave-cooking/).

jblak
04-19-2007, 03:21 PM
www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

I look forward to seeing how your experiment progresses.

kittykat47
04-19-2007, 03:56 PM
first i like to say that i love micheal and i listen to the show everyday that it is on the air. when i heard the microware comments i had just took a cup of tea from mine's and that will be the last thing that i'll be taking from it. i kind of knew that using a microwave oven was'nt a good idea and fact that am trying to live a more healthy life style made the information that you all had giving. gave me the reason to throw away my microwave. thanks for looking out that why i love the show.

TJones
04-20-2007, 12:25 AM
Let's get serious about what really matters. Obesity is the second preventable cause of death (smoking is still # 1, but it is being quickly overtaken). Not into other people's facts? Well, take a good look around you. Overconsumption is not good for the people or the earth. Our environment is giving us major messages; our nature's weather, our rates of diseases and chronic illness. Point blank, we as homo sapiens have the responsibility to look, know, understand and feel.

I have been organic for over twelve years. I am 31 and I have 4 daughters. I have researched and read and read and researched. And most importantly, I have lived and tried and learned. Global climate change phemonon is real, the overall lack of health and vitality amongst the world's population is real.

By no means am I perfect, I cope with health issues, I struggle with emotional and social issues, my spirit craves constant enlightenment in the way of truth. I am willing to share my whole story to encourage healing and foster well-being in others; because this also helps me along my way.

I offered tours of the health food stores in the local Columbia, SC metropolitian area. I didn't get as many intrested people as I'd like, so I am waitressing for a minute at Harbon Inn Seafood. I will help you if you need me to be your guide into the world of "health by organics."

I am not vegan, or vegetarian. I don't promote soy foods, supplement dependency, or totally raw diets. I have tried it all and found these things vital: grass fed, free range meats, wild harvested fish, raw milk cheese, dairy with live cultures, organic fruits and vegetables (organic and local when such product is available), supplementing when needed, maintaining beneficial enzyme action and alkalinity, and enjoying sweets and treats made with organic and/or natural (no artifical anything). I am not a 100% do or die organic, but the mo' organic the mo' betta.

We are intricate creations, the human body is indeed mystical. The earth that holds us and nurtures us and sustains itself for us is a wonder of glory, a magical mystery to hold sacred. Earth shares this ambience with each Earthling when we are open to receive. Give a care.

I'll email you a questionaire and a book list and a program guide if needed okay!

Holla at ya girl!

Tecoria Jones
6/26/75
Columbia SC
803 546 0942 mobile/text
803 787 7650 home/fax
visit www.theblakmarket.com see how we do in the metro of the SouthClack:cool:

ninaross9
04-20-2007, 04:20 PM
I was telling her about the microwave/processed foods, eating meats (which I've always talked to her about).

She said if you live right (in her eyes living right is being saved and filled with the holy ghost, don't lie, steal, commit adultery, fornication, and to cover your nakedness, etc) you don't worry about dying and if you do die you're going to heaven.

I told her you can rush death by eating bad she said then it was your time to die young, again if you live right you go to heaven.

This is where I got her. I told her if you live right then you are to follow what the bible says and it says not to defile the temple. That the bible does speak about not eating Pork, catfish (things at the bottom of the sea). And in the beginning we were only to eat fruit and veggies. She got silent had nothing to say, surprise she didn't pull the scripture my dad would pull about God made all things and everything he made is good and you are to bless it.

All she came back with was defiling includes fornication and adultery I guess she had to through that in on me!!!! :D I told her that also!!!!! But we were on eating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Zamberro
04-20-2007, 04:37 PM
Im curious to, how severe is this brain damage? And is there anyway to reverse, or rebuild this brain tissue or cells?

I am 29, and have used a microwave pretty much most of life, until now.
How much damage has already been caused?

MS. PASSION
04-20-2007, 04:38 PM
Cooked Foods Sastaines Life

Live Foods Rebuild And Rejuvenate Life.

And Leave Drugs Alone Period!

DO A CLEANSING FAST 4 TIMES A YEAR (EVERY SEASON CHANGE)

And Their Are Good Substitutes Out There.

And Good Veggie Cook Books. Read! Read! Read Up! AND LIVE LONG AND

AILMENT FREE!!!!!!!! LIKE ME 49 & FEELING FREE AND HAD MY 6TH CHILD @ 48.

Zamberro
04-20-2007, 04:54 PM
Im down with the raw-living foods. There are just to many benefits to eating raw organic and natural foods. What appeals to me most is, there is no garbage to clean up, and no dishes. Just eat, very simple, and well suited for men:p

takia26
04-20-2007, 05:07 PM
My opinion is when it's your time to go, it's your time to go. Whether it's diabetes, cancer, getting hit by a bus or getting shot or whatever. What does it matter if I go through my life eating crap and dying of cancer or going throughout my life eating healthy and dying in a car accident?

Zamberro
04-20-2007, 05:19 PM
Whaaaat... You have got to be kidding! This attitude bafels me:confused: Since life is so short and uncertain, why not live it the best you can:)

Imagine getting hit by a bus, while dodging bullets, and dying of cancer, all at the same time-in a wheel chair. Talk about going out like a sucker:D

takia26
04-20-2007, 05:39 PM
Plus, didn't they just have an incident with E. coli in spinach? It doesn't matter. Everything you eat is a risk. Even drinking the wrong type of water can make you sick.

Risa
04-20-2007, 06:21 PM
I went right home after work (on the same day of the show) and threw out my microwave oven and felt just fine doing it!!! I guess hardly using it in the first place made it that much easier. I will be replacing it with a toaster oven.

Every good and positive step I take brings me that much closer to reclaiming my good health....that I had once upon a time long ago!

Hallelujah!!!

takia26
04-20-2007, 07:07 PM
If you're going to throw out your microwave, you might as well throw out everything else in your house plus your car. Almost anything can kill you. I for one have a microwave and a toaster oven and I'm keeping both of them and when my time comes whether it's the microwave, the toaster oven, a car, a gun or whatever, then it's my time.

Brian Hunt
04-20-2007, 07:16 PM
So many people willing to donate away a portion of their intelligence for fairy tales. Sigh. No wonder we test so poorly in math and science.

BLU
04-20-2007, 09:48 PM
I went right home after work (on the same day of the show) and threw out my microwave oven and felt just fine doing it!!! I guess hardly using it in the first place made it that much easier. I will be replacing it with a toaster oven.

Every good and positive step I take brings me that much closer to reclaiming my good health....that I had once upon a time long ago!

Hallelujah!!!

risa you were the 1st lol. mine matches my decor. i unpluged it and put it on the lower lever of the bakers rack and stored my cutting board in it. it was like new anyway so it safe. I'll have to get me a popcorn popper and melt my butter on stove top but it all good. anything in the name of good health.
wish my ex would feed our daughter at his crib like i feed her at my house.

TRAVELGIRL
04-20-2007, 11:35 PM
Junk science at it's best. Keep your microwave (http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp).

And here is a link to info on William P. Kopp and that bogus study (http://lighthousepatriotjournal.wordpress.com/2006/08/08/myth-blaster-microwave-cooking/).

Thank you Mr. Hunt for the link on Mr. Kopp's research. I am never ready to act on things i hear until i do a bit more research. I was worried about it, but i intend to read more. Thank you again, travelgirl:confused:

icebnice
04-21-2007, 10:11 AM
As much as I enjoy listening to the show, the microwave talk is far off base. First, anything electrical gives off radiation, including color television which emits as much radiation as a microwave. The component that generates the microwaves in an oven, the magnatron tube, is sealed. If that were to fail, yes, that would emit greater radiation but by that time, it (hopefully) would be obvious to the user to replace the microwave.

Who would boil water then give it to a plant? Even if you allow the water to cool (which was done according to the experiment), any benefits of the water by itself is long gone! Water boils at 212F/100C, so at that point, all nutrients are gone (does the word sterilize come to mind?). So whether you boil the water in a microware or on a stove, the result is eventually the same, you're destroying bacteria, chemicals, and nutrients that were in the distilled water. Since a microwave heats much quicker than a stove, boiling the water on a stove would probably lose less of its nutrients. If, during the experiment, the water was boiled for the same amount of time using both methods, the microwaved water would have lost more nutrients.

Lastly, hospitals are one of the largest users of microwave ovens for preparing foods for patients. Think about that.

Sincerely,
Fleming

GoldCoin
04-22-2007, 03:50 PM
This experiment is totally bogus. I think your on show experts need to check their facts before they espouse such claims on public media.
Have you heard of SNOPES.COM? Check them out on this one. Also as a science major, it just aint true.

tashawhite
04-22-2007, 06:47 PM
Love you show Michael!!
Found some interesting data on the microwave story. Check it out!
http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

Brian Hunt
04-22-2007, 07:47 PM
Admin is deleting posts, but the truth can't be hidden.:D

Risa
04-23-2007, 08:44 PM
Love you show Michael!!
Found some interesting data on the microwave story. Check it out!
http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

I junked my microwave last week, that evening of the show, but you can best believe it wasn't because of this experiment. For one, I never really used it much and claimed that I would eventually get a replacement. In my gut, the reason why I never did was because I never liked the idea of microwaving (aka "zapping" or "nuking") my food. I'M A "COOK" and I like to cook. Microwaving just plain isn't healthy. Anything you have to zap or nuke heat into to eat is not "natural" and can't be healthy or as healthy for you and should be used in very low moderation or not at all.

But hey, to each his own...

Brian Hunt
04-24-2007, 02:40 AM
I junked my microwave last week, that evening of the show, but you can best believe it wasn't because of this experiment. For one, I never really used it much and claimed that I would eventually get a replacement. In my gut, the reason why I never did was because I never liked the idea of microwaving (aka "zapping" or "nuking") my food. I'M A "COOK" and I like to cook. Microwaving just plain isn't healthy. Anything you have to zap or nuke heat into to eat is not "natural" and can't be healthy or as healthy for you and should be used in very low moderation or not at all.

But hey, to each his own...

I understand where you are coming from, but I think that there is a lot of confusion on how a microwave works and what happens to objects when they become hot, regardless of how they are made to be so. Words like Zap and Nuke are part of our popular lexicon, but they really don't have anything to do with how the device works. Microwaves are radio waves. Your household microwave is sending radio waves of somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,500 MHz. The radio waves that I tune in the Michael Baisden show are at 96.3 MHz as a point of reference. The "micro" portion of the radio spectrum has the unique property of being absorbed by water, along with some fats and sugars. This absorption agitates the atoms so that they speed up. That's what heat is. When we measure the temperature of an object what we are measuring is the speed of it's atoms. Absolute zero is equivalent to zero movement of atoms. Regardless of how you heat your food, what you are doing is increasing the speed of its atoms. Since radio waves penetrate the objects in question, they excite the atoms all at once everywhere in the item (within certain limits). Baking or frying excites the atoms on the surface first and the heat has to conduct to the center. That's why microwaves are faster. They don't penetrate ceramics, metals, and most plastics. You can't crisp in a microwave without extra tools (like the very thin foil sheaths that come with hot pockets) because the air in the microwave never gets heated like it does in an oven, so it doesn't transfer it's heat to the surface of whatever is being "cooked." Some people don't like the flavor of microwave foods because of this difference. To each their own. Everyone has the right to their preference. But there is nothing inherently dangerous about it. The all the way through cooking method may even be healthier, because it's so efficient at killing bacteria in the hard to reach center (That's why your Mama always made you check the middle to see if it's done! LOL).

It's All Good
04-25-2007, 06:52 PM
As much as I enjoy listening to the show, the microwave talk is far off base. First, anything electrical gives off radiation, including color television which emits as much radiation as a microwave. The component that generates the microwaves in an oven, the magnatron tube, is sealed. If that were to fail, yes, that would emit greater radiation but by that time, it (hopefully) would be obvious to the user to replace the microwave.

Who would boil water then give it to a plant? Even if you allow the water to cool (which was done according to the experiment), any benefits of the water by itself is long gone! Water boils at 212F/100C, so at that point, all nutrients are gone (does the word sterilize come to mind?). So whether you boil the water in a microware or on a stove, the result is eventually the same, you're destroying bacteria, chemicals, and nutrients that were in the distilled water. Since a microwave heats much quicker than a stove, boiling the water on a stove would probably lose less of its nutrients. If, during the experiment, the water was boiled for the same amount of time using both methods, the microwaved water would have lost more nutrients.

Lastly, hospitals are one of the largest users of microwave ovens for preparing foods for patients. Think about that.

Sincerely,
Fleming

Your "Lastly" is the point that makes the point against your point.
Hospitals are where most people, yearly, daily, whateverly, die.
Ever heard of "Staff Infection".
It, along with Tylenol, kills thousands yearly.
Hahahaha LoL.

Brian Hunt
04-25-2007, 10:06 PM
Your "Lastly" is the point that makes the point against your point.
Hospitals are where most people, yearly, daily, whateverly, die.
Ever heard of "Staff Infection".
It, along with Tylenol, kills thousands yearly.
Hahahaha LoL.

Funny, but be careful of the logical fallacy of the false dilemma. How many of those deaths would be traced to microwaves? The opposite would be just as preposterous. How many of the people that get well and go home do so because of microwaves? There is no correlation what so ever, especially since more people live because of Hospitals than die in them. Healthy people don't get admitted (except for observation or donation).

It's All Good
04-26-2007, 09:12 AM
There's a dilemma?

lol:)

loveliftin
05-01-2007, 11:36 AM
I'll throw out my microwave when they test it on animals (like mice or something) and the mice die from microwaved foods and the mice eating the same foods not microwaved don't die. Until then, I'm not buying this. Last time I looked I wasn't a plant.

Slinky
05-01-2007, 05:15 PM
Was the microwaved water still HOT when the plants were watered?:confused:

LadyPhD
05-02-2007, 06:53 PM
and upgraded to a new one!:D While it may have adverse affects on plants, humans are not made the same way. It may be telling but I don't think it is cause for alarm, unless someone can point to more conclusive evidence (other than a 5th grade science project, or whatever grade it is) that microwaves are killing people . . . then I will stick to nuking my popcorn.

hoteptoday
05-04-2007, 01:58 AM
My opinion is when it's your time to go, it's your time to go. Whether it's diabetes, cancer, getting hit by a bus or getting shot or whatever. What does it matter if I go through my life eating crap and dying of cancer or going throughout my life eating healthy and dying in a car accident?

There are things that you can control and there are things that may be out of controll. There is no logic in not living life to it's fullest and reaping it's rewards. The dis-eases you mention here are to a degree preventable as are the accidents are. We surround ourselves with things that can create environmental distubances. Since we are a product of our environment it makes sense to keep it free of these. We can avoid carcinogenes, we can avoid magnetic waves that influence cell production and we can still live in a sustainable society. If we continue to be lazy and ignore things we will soon find more and more issues of dis-ease.

hoteptoday
05-04-2007, 01:59 AM
Was the microwaved water still HOT when the plants were watered?:confused:

If you read the experiment protocol it says that the water was allowed to cool.

UPrizN
05-04-2007, 02:10 AM
Actually there are plenty of similarities between plants and humans. Just thought I'd say that, that's all. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070409181653.htm

Even so, I think the brilliant child and her parent could have made a sincere error in their experiment. Perhaps the microwaved water was poured warm, maybe even poured hot. I would like to believe that the experiment was objectively completed here: http://www.eclecticscience.net/experiments/001-microwave-plants/summary.html#plantconclusion
also take a look at this:
http://www.eclecticscience.net/experiments/002-microwave-aquatic/detailed.html#conclusion

Well, I believe we all mean well. Folks are taking personal responsibility, learning and looking after their well being. As long as we don't hurry to make ridiculous laws banning microwaves because of one non-conclusive experiment. But, it's better to be safe than sorry... Then to, I prefer logic and rational over Paranoia.

hoteptoday
05-04-2007, 02:34 AM
I have warned my wife for years about various things we could do to improve health and avoid dis-ease. A large amount of my warnings went un-headed. Almost a month after the last time I discussed the dangers of microwave ovens with her she purchased a convection oven w/ microwave cooking. Well yes it's quite convienient and makes life easier. But at what price? Just
recently the oven broke down. I have no plans on replacing it. Also beware of microwave emmissions from the cell phone. You can purchase a diffuser to reduce EMRs.

Brian Hunt
05-08-2007, 10:28 PM
Actually there are plenty of similarities between plants and humans. Just thought I'd say that, that's all. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070409181653.htm

Even so, I think the brilliant child and her parent could have made a sincere error in their experiment. Perhaps the microwaved water was poured warm, maybe even poured hot. I would like to believe that the experiment was objectively completed here: http://www.eclecticscience.net/experiments/001-microwave-plants/summary.html#plantconclusion
also take a look at this:
http://www.eclecticscience.net/experiments/002-microwave-aquatic/detailed.html#conclusion

Well, I believe we all mean well. Folks are taking personal responsibility, learning and looking after their well being. As long as we don't hurry to make ridiculous laws banning microwaves because of one non-conclusive experiment. But, it's better to be safe than sorry... Then to, I prefer logic and rational over Paranoia.

Thanks for posting those. The last study appears to be the most promising because the process is adhering to some of the rules of experimentation.

evie1259
08-19-2007, 08:09 AM
I have heard all about microwave water. Has anybody tested just plain old boiled water to see what happens to the composition? Let me know.
thanks
evie1259