Would you date the Janitor? Are some women financially undesirable to date?

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[SuperFitBrother]

Mike,

You've done this show before. Here's my take on it: It has nothing to do with finances! It has all to do with the sisters attitudes about those finances!

I made "serious" money when I worked in IT in the DC area. The same was true for the women. But the women would "constantly" ask you "how much do you make?" or hint at it. Constantly. That's why I stopped dating women from this area because they(not all) seemed to centered on the money and not on the person and what he had to offer.

I wonder have the sisters who have this attitude ever wondered why the situation is the way it is. A lot of them went to college and a lot of brothers haven't. And they've risen in the ranks "faster" than many Black men would. Could it be because white males aren't as threatened from Black females as they are of Black males? Probably.

I went to Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr.'s CBC party last weekend. My friend works for him. There was SO MUCH bourgeoisness in the club, I almost choked! Why do Black people have to act that way? Have they forgotten that a lot of Black folks were treated like "dirt" 30, 40 years ago? And have they forgotten all the struggles that Black folks have endured to allow them to get where they've gotten? If so, I'm sure they'd be a bit less "uppity" and we wouldn't have these classes among our race like some others(Indians come to mind) do.

'Nuff Said.

[blcqueentn]

Hello Family,

This is make take on it.. It does not matter what your job title is. I have dated several people that where/are janitor's..With me as long as YOU HAVE A J.O.B I'm good. :)

[cympira]

As long as he has a job. I've dated guys that didn't make as much money as me or didn't have a "suit & tie" job.

[vlpryor]

You can't always judge a book by its cover.
I think when going into something serious, start with honesty, if you are in a meaningful relationship, then you should be able to tell your mate what the issue is.

Now if the person male or female does not try to correct the matter then that's where the problem comes in. I personally would not have a problem being up front with finances. And keeping it real we all have flaws, so no one can really throw any stones. What would piss me off would be the other half being concerned with my finances, and not telling me about an issues that he has had, and I find out after the fact.

[mrslai1227]

Just tell the truth. Personality and my principles have nothing to do with income all the time. Down to earth faithful and true are the things that matter. The truth will set you free everyone has some type of issue /flaw in their life. Bad things happen to good people like losing their job and working where they can when they can but, the spirit, the joy and inner beauty can make you look like you drink Moet on a Boones Farm budget. It's all about your attitude and self esteem.:)

[Devora]

Janitor=job!
I work with a doctor( anesthesiologist) who will go out to a club(with his boys) and when a female asks him what he does for a living, he'll tell the "I'm a busdriver", "I'm a janitor". Just watching him do that showed me not to judge a book by its cover

[SirNoseDevo]

Just tell the truth. Personality and my principles have nothing to do with income all the time. Down to earth faithful and true are the things that matter. The truth will set you free everyone has some type of issue /flaw in their life. Bad things happen to good people like losing their job and working where they can when they can but, the spirit, the joy and inner beauty can make you look like you drink Moet on a Boones Farm budget. It's all about your attitude and self esteem.:)

As-Salaam-Alaikum Sister, and greetings in the name of the merciful one.
I totally agree with your above statement. True Love is something that
money can destory, and like you said it has nothing to do with a income.
To others, don't take my message in the wrong way, but its to be taken
as good sound advice, and we must not forget that lusting is love for
the wrong reason.

Lusting can be a dis-appointment in the long run, due to the fact that
lusting can be a temporary feeling, and as humans we seem to always
seem to go after things that we can't take with us once we leave this
world. I think that its a shame when one have to cheat on his or her
mate, and in order for things like that to happen it wasn't meant to be
from the beginning.

Some women are just like men......broke, and if one should find someone
who really do care from the heart stick with them. Believe it or not that
its a true saying.....That behind every successful men stands a good
woman, and that is also in reversed as well. I do work everyday on my
job as a Child Protection case worker. Plus I own a Research firm, and
the woman that's in my life now is unemployed (But I would not trade
her for a million dollars).

I am saying that to say regardless to if a person only empty bedpans
or even a janitor love goes beyond money. If some women are to that
self-centered because a man don't meet their financial expectations
they should stay to themselves, but those who call themselves a real
independent woman usually have their own clique, and its the same
with the men they hung in the jetset crowd.

So I suggest to take your time to seek out what you are looking for,
and make sure that the two of you connect for the right reasons.

Sir NoseDevo of Funk

[Neo_Soul33]

yes i would date a janitor. It's not the job that makes the man. It's what goals that man has in life that matters. He could be working as a janitor to put his self through school to be come something great, or working to get to start his own business. women look at the man that is a patner at a firm and is makin all this money and thinkin that's what they want but they look over that man that maybe mopin that floor not knowin that he will be the owner of a firm just like the one that man with all the money.

[Harlemhotty]

Hello family, I'am with the sista all most of us are looking for is a BMW, BLACK MAN WORKING! And for real the common everyday working Joe treats you better most times than the corporate snob stuff;) shirt brother!Hello Family,

This is make take on it.. It does not matter what your job title is. I have dated several people that where/are janitor's..With me as long as YOU HAVE A J.O.B I'm good. :)

[Drnjbmd]

Yes, I would date a janitor, busdriver, and any other man who had a good spirit and good morals. My best friend, who is a physician like myself, not only dated the janitor but married him too. Five years later, he owned his office-cleaning business and is in the process of setting up franchising. He makes six figures and is about to move into the seven-figure category.

Other brothers who are great to date are those who work in the food service industry. In today's business climate, if they have the drive and the ambition, they will have unlimited earnings potential. Any brother who is out there working an honest day's work is great in my book.

[kennedyjones]

As long as a man is financially stable, can carry an intelligent conversation and make me smile it's all gravy. ;)

Fyi- Janitors are also (in most cases) handy men and you never know when the sink might have a leak.. I'm serious.. It's not funny..:D

[brings]

What a man does for a living is not the issue. I have dated a man making six figures and he was in more debt that can he could handle versus an everyday hardworking man that can still have nice things and be debt free. Some people know how to do a lot with a smaller amount of money! So it's not all about the income if you don't know how to budget! As long as you treat me nice and we have mutual respect for each and you are employed somewhere I'm ok with that! That job is not going to bring you happiness!

[KevLove35]

( Generally speaking ) alot of women who have careers / jobs in corporate america won't look twice at a Janitor .

Judgement is often passed and they seek men " on their level " financially / intellectually / career-wise .

These particular women don't realize that :

1- Full dental / medical coverage

2- Union / 41k plans

3- Job stability

4- Hands-on skills

5- Free Schooling

6- Making $ 48,000.00 - $ 65, 000.00 a year

These are good benefits and there's always room to grow and expand.

[Mahogany Love]

the world would it matter. Heck, although Michael Baisden is in the position he is today, tomorrow is not promised and that goes for anybodies position. Your STUPID if you date someone because of their status. Furthermore just because someones credit is in the red today, tomorrow it could be in the black. Perhaps grandma died two days after you told her you couldn't see her because of her credit and left her an abundant amount of money. YOU almost always shoot yourself in the foot when you look at someones status or current finances because that is not what the LORD meant for us to do. MONEY is the root to all evil and should really be the last subject.

Always: Love, Peace & Harmony all over the world

[Nu2Jazz]

I date a man with a legal JOB. It doesn't matter what he does for a living. However, I do have a problem with the "brothas" that automatically thinks a woman wants them for their money, a gold digger. If you are lying about what you do for a living, as in the doctor in a previous response, I wouldn't date him because of the lie he told. If I told him I flipped burgers at McDonalds, would he want to date me? Would he be okay with me telling him I was a lawyer and then found out that I flipped burgers? Just be honest. Your salary may not be what attracts other people.

[blkav8tor2003]

It would be nice to meet a woman who has her own business and has worked in the real world, so they are not running around trying to totally depend on a man for their total financial expendetures or spend all his money and then be mad when he can't maintain or keep up!!!

BlkAv8tor

[grenetta b]

:p A MAN IS A MAN AND BECAUSE HE CLEANS FLOORS OR OWNS HIS OWN COMPANY. IT'S WHAT'S IN THAT MAN HEART AND SOUL THAT MAKES HIM A MAN.

ONLY MAN I WON'T DATE IS ONE IM WORKING WITH CAUSE I DON'T MIX BUSINESS WITH PLEASURE:p THAT'S TABOO TO ME.

[nctoygirl]

whether he's janitor or a journalist it should be in how he treats you. can he hold a conversation, can he hold my hand, etc... there is a lot more things that matter that what he does for a 9 to 5 a long as he's getting a w2 or 1099 for it .
:)

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[Arizona19]

My motto used to be that I need a Brother that makes twice as much as me because : 1. He could take care of himself and
2. He could take care of me!


Now my motto is " I'd be happy with a Brother with enough income for him to take care of himself! If he can do that then, we can work together cause I can take care of me.

[hnydip]

No the question is will a Janitor date me. I would date a Janitor in a second but these men are the ones who are picky.

[grenetta b]

No the question is will a Janitor date me. I would date a Janitor in a second but these men are the ones who are picky.


SINCE I HAVE BEEN OUT HERE DATING . THIS STATEMENT IS SO TRUE ALOT OF MEN ARE BECOMING PICKY ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN.

THE JANITOR IS AFRAID TO DATE A WOMAN UNLESS SHE IS INDEPENDENT. NOW AIN'T THAT A KICK IN THE HEAD:D :D :eek: :eek:

[FIreStorm]

MONEY is the root to all evil This statement is INCORRECT.

People, STOP misquoting scriptures that you've obviously never read.

Timothy 6:10 says : For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

I could go into a long discussion about it, but someone else put it best:

"You've heard it said that money is the root of all evil, right? Wrong! Turn with me to one of the most misquoted verses in the Bible. Paul was addressing Timothy, as he was preparing him for public ministry. I will read it to you from the Amplifying Bible, Tim. 6: 10 "For the love of money (and all it buys) placed before the love of God (in reality) is the root of all kinds of evil."
Did you catch that? Let me reread it. A clear distinction must be made between THE LOVE of money and money itself. Let this truth sink deep into your spirit. God is not anti-money, or anti-wealth, He is anti-money WORSHIP. He has helped us to identify that moneylove (worship) is the root of all kinds of evil. In fact, as we have discussed before, God's plan is that we are healthy, wealthy, and wise in this world -- as a testimony of His greatness, power, and glory to come.

Wealth is NOT the only measuring stick of our blessing from God. Wealth is an indication that a godly man has his house in order but not a guarantee of spirituality. The world is full of rich men and women who are lost spiritually. On the other hand, the majority of the world's people are both lost and poor (like India and China). This means that we cannot boast in our wealth, but rather, as Christians we are to learn to be content in whatever station of life we find ourselves.

My point is that the LOVE of money is the critical factor in determining if money is used for good or evil, from God's perspective. What about Mother Teresa you ask? She was certainly a blessed woman without any wealth at all. True. If only we had a planet full of Mother Teresa's. The reality is that she has answered a special call from God to live among the poor, and to minister the love of God unencumbered by the distractions of possessions. There are others called to minister to the middle class, who teach that fulfillment is not to be found in keeping up with the Jones. There are others who are called to minister to the rich, famous, and powerful by demonstrating that money can be used to restore godly principles back into a culture. For example, Sir John Templeton is doing his part to encourage spirituality in society.

The bottom line is that money, like technology, is spiritually neutral. It can be used for good or evil. God always deals with the heart and the motives of the use of money. If the motives are pure then the fruit can be very very good. Let's stop loving things and start loving people. That is the measure of true wealth!"

Quoted from the website true-wealth.com, with whom I have no affiliation.

[kenia79]

MICHAEL!!! FORGET what you've heard I am a native NEW YORKER now living in GEORGIA and I LOOOOOOOOVVVEEEE a BLUE collar GUY!!!!!!!!!!!my DAD is a train mechanic and he and my mother have been together for over 30years and it is still ALL LOVE!!! i love BLUE COLLAR MEN!!! I can't seem to FIND any!!!

PEACE>
K

[kenia79]

Blue Collar Men Are Sexy!!!

[courbie]

Unless he meets certain conditions and Im not afraid to say it. Here's why. Im in my early 30s and in my short dating life, I have dated a multitude of men who have had less than I have financially. I'm thinking, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt as a man, I'll give you my time because you might just be a good man period! I dont brag about what I have (I dont have much dont get me wrong) but I do have 2 degrees and I am fortunate to work in the industry that I love. What I have found when I have given men who have less than I have financially, academically etc. my time is that they feel they have to lie to me to impress me, they think that I have unrealistic expectations of them etc, and I dont know where that comes from except the assumption that because I am/have this, therefore I must be this. It has been my experience that the men that I have dated who have had less or should I say a different life experience than myself, have thus tried to use me. SO unless the janitor has ambition, proven drive, or if he has a degree, or if he owns the janitorial company that he does service for, not for my benefit, but for his own and something to show for it, no not a fancy car or a big house but BE self sufficient and want nothing from me because I have more than you, then NO i cant do it and Im ok with saying that. I dont have to have a man just to have a man, I would like a man that has something to bring to the table not take away from what I set on the table. Im not brand new because I have an education and make my own money, but Im not the suga momma!

[blkav8tor2003]

My motto used to be that I need a Brother that makes twice as much as me because : 1. He could take care of himself and
2. He could take care of me!


Now my motto is " I'd be happy with a Brother with enough income for him to take care of himself! If he can do that then, we can work together cause I can take care of me.

Arizona19,

My dad told me that a long time ago and it still is true but it's not a black only thing it's a man/woman thing! Guys have it hard enough trying to please and afford a woman in todays society already. So if your happy with the latter then you deserve greatness in a guy and it's a good thing that your mind is now changed.

P.S. Are you from AZ or in AZ now...I'm in PHX, blowin up Michael Baisden's AZ family!!!!

BlkAv8tor

[kenia79]

SOME BLUE COLLAR MEN KNOW HOW TO TREAT A LADY LIKE A LADY...THEY GET THE JOB DONE, IF YOU FIND THE RIGHT ONE!!!

[greene27]

It's obvious some women are too concerned about money rather than happiness. I married fine brother who has actually promoted up in that field. This a man who takes me on 7 - 10 day cruises every other year, we take at least 2 - 3 weekend trips within a two month period. We own 1 three bedroom home and are in the process of purchasing another 4 bedroom home. We own 2 cars that are paid for, a 2005 chevy avelange that is paid for and just bought a 2007 infiniti. On top of that we have more fun with each other than any couple I have ever seen. Yes, he's a one in a million but he's mine and I love him. We have been married for seven years and have been together for almost 18 years. Oh did I mention our kids are grown, 19(his), 20(mine), & 22(his) so it's all about us at the age of 41 & 45.

[KevLove35]

MONEY is the root to all evil and should really be the last subject.

Actually it's . . . .

"The Love of Money is the root of all evil . "

When people Love money more than , ( people , integrity , honor ,respect , GOD . ) that's when it becomes Evil .

[bigalsvision@yahoo.com]

Hello Mike (everything is everything ) im a 45 yr old black man 6'5 360 lbs and i own the worlds first faith based full length clothing line Prayer Wear Gear inc. in atlanta ga www.iloveprayerwear.com and becuase of my size i cant find a sista that would date me even tho i have some great things goin on. they want the young looking pretty boys. i am a hard working man everyday i also have small moving company 1 man with a truck .and i works hard for my money $ what can a brotha do. ? can u hook a brotha up with the sistas that like a big man that hard works hard everyday ! i love your show man you all keep up the great works ! also i would like to submit some music to your show i love to write & produce old skool music & beats ! thanks Mike ! I Love your T.V show off the chain ! peace bigg Al ! in atl ga !

[grenetta b]

:p I'VE HAD MEN ASK ME WHAT DO YOU DO. AND I TELL THEM IM A PARTS CLERK FOR THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY AND THEY FLIP OUT. I TELL THEM I'M A LICENSED FORKLIFT DRIVER AND THEY BACK-UP. IT'S NOT ONLY THE WOMEN IT'S THE MEN ALSO. SO MIKE ASK THE SAME QUESTION TO THE MEN WOULD THEY DATE A WOMAN WHO IS A JANITOR:p :p :p :p


AND I THINK IM A DAMN SEXY BLUE COLLAR WORKER TOO:p :D :D :D

[blkav8tor2003]

:p I'VE HAD MEN ASK ME WHAT DO YOU DO. AND I TELL THEM IM A PARTS CLERK FOR THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY AND THEY FLIP OUT. I TELL THEM I'M A LICENSED FORKLIFT DRIVER AND THEY BACK-UP. IT'S NOT ONLY THE WOMEN IT'S THE MEN ALSO. SO MIKE ASK THE SAME QUESTION TO THE MEN WOULD THEY DATE A WOMAN WHO IS A JANITOR:p :p :p :p


AND I THINK IM A DAMN SEXY BLUE COLLAR WORKER TOO:p :D :D :D

Well said sis,

It would be nice to meet a sista that has done some physical work in her life so she can appreciate what her man may go through down the road. Works hard all day/night and ladies up in her off time. My kind of lady who has done a little of everything but is still a lady at the end of the day!!!

BlkAv8tor

[KevLove35]

SO MIKE ASK THE SAME QUESTION TO THE MEN WOULD THEY DATE A WOMAN WHO IS A JANITOR:p :p :p :p

Yes we would . . . . ( Next Question ) :D

[Mahogany Love]

What we are talking about here. If you are worried about what your janitor boyfriend because he is a janitor or won't date a woman because of her finances. That is your evil root because it should not matter. Love, Respect, Character, etc should matter first.

Always: Love, Peace & Harmony
Actually it's . . . .

"The Love of Money is the root of all evil . "

When people Love money more than , ( people , integrity , honor ,respect , GOD . ) that's when it becomes Evil .

[skydivajfk]

I am a Flight Attendant and I have dated everyone from a movie producer to the garbage man. It doesn't matter what the man's profession is as long as he has one.

[lustyk44]

most janitors i know don't have no teeth or very few but definately none in the front. i can't date them. but if you got teeth, you got a date! Andf not gold or platinum teeth!

[grenetta b]

Well said sis,

It would be nice to meet a sista that has done some physical work in her life so she can appreciate what her man may go through down the road. Works hard all day/night and ladies up in her off time. My kind of lady who has done a little of everything but is still a lady at the end of the day!!!

BlkAv8tor



:D :D :D now this is my kind of man:)
don't forget to rub my feet dear:)

[grenetta b]

most janitors i know don't have no teeth or very few but definately none in the front. i can't date them. but if you got teeth, you got a date! Andf not gold or platinum teeth!



:D :D i hear ya sis on the gold teeth or platinum:D :D

[grenetta b]

:D Yes we would . . . . ( Next Question ) :D


kiss me i have all my teethes:D :D :D :D :p

[blkav8tor2003]

:D :D :D now this is my kind of man:)
don't forget to rub my feet dear:)

I rub feet, I can cook, clean, wash and sew and most of the things that a woman can do except the period and baby carrying butI'm the guy that rubs your abdomen when the cramps are kickin' and I draw baths and rub feet when we are just watching a movie...I don't need to be told!!! My mother raised me and my brother to not be dependant apon a woman to survive but to try and find one that compliments our domestic skillz...I have been the blue collar guy throwing bags and the white collar pilot flying the plane.

BlkAv8tor

[SirNoseDevo]

Hello family, I'am with the sista all most of us are looking for is a BMW, BLACK MAN WORKING! And for real the common everyday working Joe treats you better most times than the corporate snob stuff;) shirt brother!

Well Sista There is men who don't need a Sista with her hands out
all the time, and running up his credit cards by getting a $150 hair
style or just sitting at home watching...As The World Spin.
A relationship should be equally balanced. You spend my money,and
I will spend yours.

Its thoughts like that is why the many Black women is going outside
of their race, due to the fact that they feel that Brothers can't give
them enough. However, IF (and that's a BIG IF) a Black men chooses
a white women over a Sista then he's wrong, and not taking care
of his own according to some Sistas. In closing, I am like most men
I can do bad by myself.

[Blackman7]

Seal once worked at MacDonald's. :)

[grenetta b]

I rub feet, I can cook, clean, wash and sew and most of the things that a woman can do except the period and baby carrying butI'm the guy that rubs your abdomen when the cramps are kickin' and I draw baths and rub feet when we are just watching a movie...I don't need to be told!!! My mother raised me and my brother to not be dependant apon a woman to survive but to try and find one that compliments our domestic skillz...I have been the blue collar guy throwing bags and the white collar pilot flying the plane.

BlkAv8tor


YOU DON'T HAVE TO SELL ME SWEETY IM BOOKED ON YOUR FLIGHT :D ;)

[Blackman7]

I never date a woman for her money. The wise man of God, Sirach, spoke against that:

Sirach 25:21. Do not be ensnared by a woman's beauty, and do not desire a woman for her possessions.

22. There is wrath and impudence and great disgrace when a wife supports her husband.

23. A dejected mind, a gloomy face, and a wounded heart are caused by an evil wife.

[Chef Wanda]

I would rather struggle with a brother that works as a janitor, know that he is there for me, we have each others back, look at each other like there is no one else in this world, and be happy and we work together to reach our goals. Then to be with a brother who is well off, and all his time and energy goes to how to make more money, what he can get with that money, and tries to make me happy with money and things.

When meeting a man, and the subject of going on that first date comes up, and I'm asked what would I like to do. I put this question to him, no matter what his job or financial status is.
I ask, "Plan a date that requires $75 or less for the entire date."

Brothers and sisters think about it, something like that requires imagination, learning something about that other person, and it show how important that person values money. You may find out ,that janitor or maid, sales clerk, grocery worker or whatever may just take you on the time of your life.

Don't let job titles keep you home on a Saturday night because that brother in a suit didn't call you, but that UPS man remembers and brings you, your favorite coffee, and ask you out everytime he delivers.

[Luvly_TX_Ladi]

I would like to flip the question and inquire Would the Janitor APPROACH and/or date a female entrepreneur? Are some MEN "intimated" (OuCh!) by financially stable women?:confused: It is possible that the "janitors" are demasculizing themself and NOT the women that they won't even approach. :eek: No, Im saying that the man has to be the one to initiate the relationship but in alot of case they are. It seems to be that when a women presents herself as "together" and handles her business she can be often placed in the "stuck-up-betta-than-a-"janitor"-I-don't-do-blue-collar-workers" category. [/FONT][/FONT] Are the "janitors" comfortable and confident in their profession to be a women like this? Hhhmmmm.. I just wondering if the question was flipped...[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]

[ssjup81]

As long as the guy is nice, smart, decent, mature, not a mama's boy, supportive, and respectable, shows a strong interest in me (and vice-versa for me, of course), I don't care what he does for a living (or what race he is), just as long as it's good, honest, legal work.

[Blackman7]

22. There is wrath and impudence and great disgrace when a wife supports her husband.

Ain't THAT the truth! When the woman has more MONEY they become DOMINEERING as HELL!!!! :mad: :D :eek: :confused: ;)

[lustyk44]

where are you baby???