America Has Lost A Generation of Black Boys

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America Has Lost A Generation Of Black Boys

By Phillip Jackson
Executive Director of the Black Star Project
Chicago, IL
blackstar1000@ameritech.net

There is no longer a need for dire predictions, hand-wringing, or
apprehension about losing a generation of black boys. It is too late. In
education, employment, economics, incarceration, health, housing, and
parenting, we have lost a generation of young black men. The question
that remains is will we lose the next two or three generations, or
possibly every generation of black boys hereafter to the streets,
negative media, gangs, drugs, poor education, unemployment, father
absence, crime, violence and death.

Most young black men in the United States don't graduate from high
school. Only 35% of black male students graduated from high school in
Chicago and only 26% in New York City, according to a 2006 report by
The Schott Foundation for Public Education. Only a few black boys who
finish high school actually attend college, and of those few black boys
who enter college, nationally, only 22% of them finish college.

Young black male students have the worst grades, the lowest test scores,
and the highest dropout rates of all students in the country. When these
young black men don't succeed in school, they are much more likely to
succeed in the nation's criminal justice and penitentiary system. And it
was discovered recently that even when a young black man graduates from
a U.S. college, there is a good chance that he is from Africa, the
Caribbean or Europe, and not the United States.

Black men in prison in America have become as American as apple pie.
There are more black men in prisons and jails in the United States
(about 1.1 million) than there are black men incarcerated in the rest of
the world combined. This criminalization process now starts in
elementary schools with black male children as young as six and seven
years old being arrested in staggering numbers according to a 2005
report, Education on Lockdown by the Advancement Project.

The rest of the world is watching and following the lead of America.
Other countries including England, Canada, Jamaica, Brazil and South
Africa are adopting American social policies that encourage the
incarceration and destruction of young black men. This is leading to a
world-wide catastrophe. But still, there is no adequate response from
the American or global black community.

Worst of all is the passivity, neglect and disengagement of the black
community concerning the future of our black boys. We do little while
the future lives of black boys are being destroyed in record numbers.
The schools that black boys attend prepare them with skills that will
make them obsolete before, and if, they graduate. In a strange and
perverse way, the black community, its elf, has started to w age a kind
of war against young black men and has become part of this destructive
process.

Who are young black women going to marry? Who is going to build and
maintain the economies of black communities? Who is going to anchor
strong families in the black community? Who will young black boys
emulate as they grow into men? Where is the outrage of the black
community at the destruction of its black boys? Where are the plans and
the supportive actions to change this? Is this the beginning of the end
of the black people in America ?

The list of those who have failed young black men includes our
government, our foundations, our schools, our media, our black churches,
our black leaders, and even our parents. Ironical ly, experts say that
the solutions to the problems of young black men are simple and
relatively inexpensive, but they may not be easy, practical or popular.
It is not that we lack solutions as much as it is that we lack the will
to implement these solutions to save black boys. It seems that
government is willing to pay billions of dollars to lock up young black
men, rather than the millions it would take to prepare them to become
viable contributors and valued members of our society.

Please consider these simple goals that can lead to solutions for fixing
the problems of young black men:

Short term
1) Teach all black boys to read at grade level by the third grade and to
embrace education.
2) Provide positive role models for black boys.
3) Create a stable home environment for black boys that includes contact
with their fathers.
4) Ensure that black boys have a strong spiritual base.
5) Control the negative media influences on black boys.
6) Teach black boys to respect all girls and women.

Long term
1) Invest as much money in educating black boys as in locking up black
men.
2) Help connect black boys to a positive vision of themselves in the
future.
3) Create high expectations and help black boys live into those high
expectations.
4) Build a positive peer culture for black boys.
5) Teach black boys self-discipline, culture and history.
6) Teach black boys and the communities in which they live to embrace
education and life-long learning.

[brownsister]

As I begain to read the story, My heart begain to heart. To read how we are losing another gerneration of black boys. There is a war on our Black young males. The system is set up to imprison our young black boys. This is another form of slavery. Please Family that have male children raise your male child like you raise your female child.

[SiberianTiger]

You are exactly correct and those efforts are relatively simple but when you do not have a parent base to implement those actions, then the boys still are preyed upon by the destructive side of their environment. What has the Sports industry also done and the entertainment industry when they portray those entitities as the only viable escape routes to being successful..Every young man should have a subscription to black enterprise magazine.

Every parent of a Black athlete should demand study hall , mentoring, and honors work from their Boys from the schools they attend instead of allowing them to exploit their talents and receive financial gain while some struggle to attend practice and games and maintain their academic success.

Boys when they are babies should be nurtured and not treated as little adults or meal tickets to fame.

We are in a crisis but one that can be definitely won if we all take the TIME to CARE.

[DCDC]

I would have to agree. Sad thing is that we have slowly seen these boys lose the battle with the streets, and other distractions. We have ALLOWED these young men to get into these situations because no one has taken the time to lead them in the right direction. I will probably get nailed for this, but I'm not an advocate of single parenting AS A CHOICE! Getting a divorce or a parent passing is one thing, but going out here laying up, and then ending up with child is a MAJOR reason these young men are in these predicaments. Though many women(and men) have done good jobs raising their child(ren), a FAMILY NEEDS A COMPLETE PACKAGE! That complete package needs to consist of mom AND dad in the lives of that child!

Too many time we hear, "I'm the mother and the father"...yes you are the influential parent, however each gender NEEDS that same gender in his/her life in order for them to understand the hardships that WILL press on in their lives as they grow. A mother will NEVER understand what it's like to be a young boy/man and vice versa, so there is limited information that they can share with a son (or daugher in a father's case). It's gotten to be common place to be a single parent and not one eye blinks as a problem these days. Maybe people NEED to blink and understand that the problem has gotten worse day after day, and will continue to if these young men are not placed on an even track with men that will guide them in the right direction.

[sq357]

Fatherless Pride--

It's my prayer that Black Men reclaim their children--Dad, where ever you are...I made it--but I needed you.

[derrtyjersey14]

I love and support everything that the article stated. That is one reason why I work with male juveniles. It is also the reason I got my masters in Public Administration and I am starting my own non-profit organization for black men.
Yes we do have to reclaim our black men and the bad part is the parents are supposed to do that and we dont have parents now a days. And honestly I dont think its just a generation I think its like 2 generations

[grenetta b]

Please consider these simple goals that can lead to solutions for fixing
the problems of young black men:

Short term
1) Teach all black boys to read at grade level by the third grade and to
embrace education.
2) Provide positive role models for black boys.
3) Create a stable home environment for black boys that includes contact
with their fathers.
4) Ensure that black boys have a strong spiritual base.
5) Control the negative media influences on black boys.
6) Teach black boys to respect all girls and women.

Long term
1) Invest as much money in educating black boys as i n locking up black
men.
2) Help connect black boys to a positive vision of themselves in the
future.
3) Create high expectations and help black boys live into those high
expectations.
4) Build a positive peer culture for black boys.
5) Teach black boys self-discipline, culture and history.
6) Teach black boys and the communities in which they live to embrace
education and life-long learning.


IM NEVER GOING TO GIVE UP ON BLACK YOUNG MEN. CAUSE I HAVE ONE IN MY HOUSEHOLD (MY SON). AND EVEN THOU HIS FATHER IS NOT A POSITIVE ROLE MODEL IN HIS LIFE. IT'S NEVER A DAY THAT GOES BY THAT I DON'T TELL MY SON. IT'S NOTHING IN THIS WORLD THAT YOU CANNOT DO. AS LONG AS YOU APPLY YOURSELF, MOTIVE YOURSELF AND KNOW YOUR SELF WORTH.

THERE ARE SO MANY YOUNG MEN BEING RAISED IN ONE PARENT HOMES AND ALOT OF PARENTS HAVE GIVEN UP ON THEIR SONS. BUT IM HERE TO SAY PARENTS. DON'T LET THIS WORLD HAVE YOUR CHILDREN. CAUSE THEY ARE OUR FUTURE.

I KNOW IT GETS FRUSTRATING AT TIMES TRYING TO RAISE A SON . CAUSE THERE HAS BEEN MANY OF TIMES MY SON AND I HAVE CLASHED HEADS ON HIS OPINIONS AND ATTITUDE ON THINGS. BUT YOU KNOW I HAVE TO STEP BACK
SOMETIMES AND REALIZE HE IS A MAN NOW. AND I HAVE TO LET HIM BE ONE. AND I KNOW I HAVE TAUGHT HIM THE BEST WAY THAT I CAN AS A SINGLE MOTHER. HE HAS RESPECT, CHARISMA, A STRONG MIND, AND A HEART FOR OTHERS.


AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING WE AS PARENTS HAVE TO SOMETIMES TAKE TIME OUT AND KNOW THAT OUR YOUNG MEN ARE WORTH SAVING. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THEY FALL. ALWAYS BE THERE TO PICK THEM UP
AND LET THEM KNOW YOU LOVE THEM AND YOU CARE FOR THEM. CAUSE ALOT OF TIMES THAT'S ALL THOSE YOUNG MEN ARE SEEKING IS SOMEONE TO LOVE THEM AND LET THEM KNOW SOMEONE CARES ABOUT THEM.


I'VE ALWAYS TAUGHT MY CHILDREN THERE IS NO SUCH WORD AS CAN'T. CAUSE IF YOU LOVE YOUR LIFE AND WANT TO HAVE A LIFE YOU CAN DO
EVERYTHING.:)

[Miss P]

And many of our females are testosterone-driven.

I have much to say about this, but in short.....my son is in this generation and I'm still working with him to turn him around and he's 28. He's a man, operating with a mindset of a 8-yr-old. I apologize to ALL of humankind for not being a better mom. But I haven't given up yet!

Michael has had Dr. Kunjufu on his show many times.......family, please educate yourselves so we can save our children.

A must read for parents/mentors/teachers/guardians and research all related subjects:
"Countering the Conspiracy to Destroy Black Boys....Vols I, II, & III." He references more resources and I know he has put out newer material. Please check him out!!!

[odrobinson]

As a mother, it is pretty heartbreaking to see the situations some kids have to deal with. We are always hearing about negative stories . . . . I would like to share a positive story about my two "black" sons. My oldest son, Zachary is a Freshman in college. My youngest son, Dominick is a Jr in high school and a sought after basketball player. I made it my mission as a mother to provide a loving, healthing, nurturing, "race-free" environment. I am bi-racial, my mother being white from europe, and we were raised in europe where we were taught that we could be whoever we wanted to be, we could go whereever we wanted to. I raised my two boys with that same motto and they seem to be living successful and happy lives.

[moc5]

Please consider these simple goals that can lead to solutions for fixing
the problems of young black men:

Short term
1) Teach all black boys to read at grade level by the third grade and to
embrace education.
2) Provide positive role models for black boys.
3) Create a stable home environment for black boys that includes contact
with their fathers.
4) Ensure that black boys have a strong spiritual base.
5) Control the negative media influences on black boys.
6) Teach black boys to respect all girls and women.

Long term
1) Invest as much money in educating black boys as i n locking up black
men.
2) Help connect black boys to a positive vision of themselves in the
future.
3) Create high expectations and help black boys live into those high
expectations.
4) Build a positive peer culture for black boys.
5) Teach black boys self-discipline, culture and history.
6) Teach black boys and the communities in which they live to embrace
education and life-long learning.


IM NEVER GOING TO GIVE UP ON BLACK YOUNG MEN. CAUSE I HAVE ONE IN MY HOUSEHOLD (MY SON). AND EVEN THOU HIS FATHER IS NOT A POSITIVE ROLE MODEL IN HIS LIFE. IT'S NEVER A DAY THAT GOES BY THAT I DON'T TELL MY SON. IT'S NOTHING IN THIS WORLD THAT YOU CANNOT DO. AS LONG AS YOU APPLY YOURSELF, MOTIVE YOURSELF AND KNOW YOUR SELF WORTH.

THERE ARE SO MANY YOUNG MEN BEING RAISED IN ONE PARENT HOMES AND ALOT OF PARENTS HAVE GIVEN UP ON THEIR SONS. BUT IM HERE TO SAY PARENTS. DON'T LET THIS WORLD HAVE YOUR CHILDREN. CAUSE THEY ARE OUR FUTURE.

I KNOW IT GETS FRUSTRATING AT TIMES TRYING TO RAISE A SON . CAUSE THERE HAS BEEN MANY OF TIMES MY SON AND I HAVE CLASHED HEADS ON HIS OPINIONS AND ATTITUDE ON THINGS. BUT YOU KNOW I HAVE TO STEP BACK
SOMETIMES AND REALIZE HE IS A MAN NOW. AND I HAVE TO LET HIM BE ONE. AND I KNOW I HAVE TAUGHT HIM THE BEST WAY THAT I CAN AS A SINGLE MOTHER. HE HAS RESPECT, CHARISMA, A STRONG MIND, AND A HEART FOR OTHERS.


AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING WE AS PARENTS HAVE TO SOMETIMES TAKE TIME OUT AND KNOW THAT OUR YOUNG MEN ARE WORTH SAVING. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THEY FALL. ALWAYS BE THERE TO PICK THEM UP
AND LET THEM KNOW YOU LOVE THEM AND YOU CARE FOR THEM. CAUSE ALOT OF TIMES THAT'S ALL THOSE YOUNG MEN ARE SEEKING IS SOMEONE TO LOVE THEM AND LET THEM KNOW SOMEONE CARES ABOUT THEM.


I'VE ALWAYS TAUGHT MY CHILDREN THERE IS NO SUCH WORD AS CAN'T. CAUSE IF YOU LOVE YOUR LIFE AND WANT TO HAVE A LIFE YOU CAN DO
EVERYTHING.:)

This article should have been titled Lost Generation Of Parents reality is the more teenage parents we have the worse off our childrens futures are. Our children, black, spanish, and white this is not a race issue the same fatherless black child in city projects is the same as a fatherless white child in a trailer home. Parents are to blame the lack of education and the lack of interest in thier child lives. Say for instance a mother/father age 30 has a 14y yr ol child if s/he does not have basic education how can s/he help her/his child excel in academics most likely s/he can't, or s/he shows no interest in her/his child to busy with thier lives because they never had a chance to enjoy there early adult years due to being a parent. The child may be at an age they can fend for themselves either way they become independent and fail(streets,drugs,jail,companionship) or succeed on there own. The fail we all know the outcome the success eventually a pround black, spanish, or white adult with self imposed morales. Unfortunate we fail to often and yes having both parents in the same house hold plays a significant part in our succession as adults and parents but thats obvious. So young brothers black, white , spanish be fathers to ya children and young ladies think about your future first before you rule out the alternatives to raising a child. STAY STRONG FAMILY

[filmoredollar]

Stats are a funny thing. You can find stats thaat say pretty much whatever you like. Maybe the problem with blacks is that we rely too much on stats and the government to tell us what we should do. Instead, maybe we should be DOING the things that we see need to be done in our own communities.

[JAZZHEAD]

America Has Lost A Generation Of Black Boys

By Phillip Jackson
Executive Director of the Black Star Project
Chicago, IL
blackstar1000@ameritech.net

There is no longer a need for dire predictions, hand-wringing, or
apprehension about losing a generation of black boys. It is too late. In
education, employment, economics, incarceration, health, housing, and
parenting, we have lost a generation of young black men. The question
that remains is will we lose the next two or three generations, or
possibly every generation of black boys hereafter to the streets,
negative media, gangs, drugs, poor education, unemployment, father
absence, crime, violence and death.

Most young black men in the United States don't graduate from high
school. Only 35% of black male students graduated from high school in
Chicago and only 26% in New York City , according to a 2006 report by
The Schott Fou ndation for Public Education. Only a few bla ck boys who
finish high school actually attend college, and of those few black boys
who enter college, nationally, only 22% of them finish college.

Young black male students have the worst grades, the lowest test scores,
and the highest dropout rates of all students in the country. When these
young black men don't succeed in school, they are much more likely to
succeed in the nation's criminal justice and penitentiary system. And it
was discovered recently that even when a young black man graduates from
a U.S. college, there is a good chance that he is from Africa, the
Caribbean or Europe, and not the United States .

Black men in prison in America have become as American as apple pie.
There are more black men in prisons and jails in the United States
(about 1.1 million) than there are black men incarcerated in the rest of
the world combined. This criminalization process now starts in
elementary schools with black male children as young as six and seven
years old being arrested in staggering numbers according to a 2005
report, Education on Lockdown by the Advancement Project.

The rest of the world is watching and following the lead of America .
Other countries including England , Canada , Jamaica , Brazil and South
Africa are adopting American social policies that encourage the
incarceration and destruction of young black men. This is leading to a
world-wide catastrophe. But still, there is no adequate response from
the American or global black community.

Worst of all is the passivity, neglect and disengagement of the black
community concerning the future of our black boys. We do little while
the future lives of black boys are being destroyed in record numbers.
The schools that black boys attend prepare them with skills that will
make them obsolete before, and if, they graduate. In a strange and
perverse way, the black community, its elf, has started to w age a kind
of war against young black men and has become part of this destructive
process.

Who are young black women going to marry? Who is going to build and
maintain the economies of black communities? Who is going to anchor
strong families in the black community? Who will young black boys
emulate as they grow into men? Where is the outrage of the black
community at the destruction of its black boys? Where are the plans and
the supportive actions to change this? Is this the beginning of the end
of the black people in America ?

The list of those who have failed young black men includes our
government, our foundations, our schools, our media, our black churches,
our black leaders, and even our parents. Ironical ly, experts say that
the solutions to the problems of young black men are simple and
relatively inexpensive, but they may not be easy, practical or popular.
It is not that we lack solut ions as much as it is that we lack the will
to implement these solutions to save black boys. It seems that
government is willing to pay billions of dollars to lock up young black
men, rather than the millions it would take to prepare them to become
viable contributors and valued members of our society.

Please consider these simple goals that can lead to solutions for fixing
the problems of young black men:

Short term
1) Teach all black boys to read at grade level by the third grade and to
embrace education.
2) Provide positive role models for black boys.
3) Create a stable home environment for black boys that includes contact
with their fathers.
4) Ensure that black boys have a strong spiritual base.
5) Control the negative media influences on black boys.
6) Teach black boys to respect all girls and women.

Long term
1) Invest as much money in educating black boys as i n locking up black
men.
2) Help connect black boys to a positive vision of themselves in the
future.
3) Create high expectations and help black boys live into those high
expectations.
4) Build a positive peer culture for black boys.
5) Teach black boys self-discipline, culture and history.
6) Teach black boys and the communities in which they live to embrace
education and life-long learning.



WE AS A PEOPLE NEED, NEED, NEED TO SHOW A LITTLE LOVE TO OUR EXTENDED FAMILY. A KIND WORD IS ENOUGHT TO TURN A PERSONS LIFE AROUND. AS A PEOPLE WE HAVE DEFEATED ATTITUDES AND IF IM DEFEATED AND LOOK TO YOU FOR HELP AND GET NONE ...WHERE ARE OUR YOUTH LEFT TO GO..... LETS SHOW LOVE TO ONE ANOTHER .......PEACE

[SirNoseDevo]

Whos fault is that because our young Black Brothers are
raising themselves? Each of these posts is condemning
the Black man, and why the facts isn't presented that
the White race is losers too.

The only differences between being White and Black is
most Whites are more able to do things on the economic
level, and most Blacks (the past two generations) are
raised without a Father in the home. Just so happened
in the early 1980's there was more single Fathers then
society knew about, and up until that point the women
was the sole providers.

So instead of judging the so-called losted generation of
Black Brothers. Why not take the time out to STOP the
racism, and educate or hire the young Blacks.

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[Suspect]

It took me 31 years, a whole lot of tears, manipulation, deception, and little bit off street smarts to get where I am today, you see I am a product of a single mother household. The man who calls himself my father left me and my brother when I was 6 years old and brother was 3 years and I instantly became the man of the house. I blamed my father for a lot over the years and hated him for every time I had to learn a life lesson on my own. I considered him a coward. It wasn't until a couple years ago after he tried to commit suicide and once again I was thrust right into a position of responsibly of taking care of him. You see he did not die, he is in a vegitative state and without a power of attourny, will or anthing else I was forced to take him in my home along with my 2 year old son, because he had no insurance, his other 2 sons refused to help out and the daughter was a minor at the time. I felt like the whole world was on my back, you see I am also a single father, because my son's mother left us when he was 6 months old, today he is 3 years old and only has me. After a year of fighting in court I finally got power of attourney over my father. He is in a nursing home now, but from that point I made my son a promise to teach him the things I had to learn on my own, to be there when he needs someone to talk too, and to never turn my back on him, because my people turned theirs on me. Everyday I watch scores of young black men dieing on television, in the newspapers, and even sometimes in front of me. I gaze upon my son's eyes every morning as we sit and have breakfast and dream of the possibilities, maybe he can be the first in his family to make something of himself. I dreamed of being a computer scientist when I was growing up I never got the opportunity to go to college until I turned 34. Black men have to do everything twice a good there is no room for error!!! Can't you see we are under attack and have been since the sixties. When was the last time you patronized a black owed business, and I mean other than barbque joints, barber shops, hair salons, and record shops? Remember when we owned almost everything in our neighborhoods? I do and that's why it hurts so much to see what was once a loving community destroyed in as little as 40 years.

[ssjup81]

It took me 31 years, a whole lot of tears, manipulation, deception, and little bit off street smarts to get where I am today, you see I am a product of a single mother household. The man who calls himself my father left me and my brother when I was 6 years old and brother was 3 years and I instantly became the man of the house. I blamed my father for a lot over the years and hated him for every time I had to learn a life lesson on my own. I considered him a coward. It wasn't until a couple years ago after he tried to commit suicide and once again I was thrust right into a position of responsibly of taking care of him. You see he did not die, he is in a vegitative state and without a power of attourny, will or anthing else I was forced to take him in my home along with my 2 year old son, because he had no insurance, his other 2 sons refused to help out and the daughter was a minor at the time. I felt like the whole world was on my back, you see I am also a single father, because my son's mother left us when he was 6 months old, today he is 3 years old and only has me. After a year of fighting in court I finally got power of attourney over my father. He is in a nursing home now, but from that point I made my son a promise to teach him the things I had to learn on my own, to be there when he needs someone to talk too, and to never turn my back on him, because my people turned theirs on me. Everyday I watch scores of young black men dieing on television, in the newspapers, and even sometimes in front of me. I gaze upon my son's eyes every morning as we sit and have breakfast and dream of the possibilities, maybe he can be the first in his family to make something of himself. I dreamed of being a computer scientist when I was growing up I never got the opportunity to go to college until I turned 34. Black men have to do everything twice a good there is no room for error!!! Can't you see we are under attack and have been since the sixties. When was the last time you patronized a black owed business, and I mean other than barbque joints, barber shops, hair salons, and record shops? Remember when we owned almost everything in our neighborhoods? I do and that's why it hurts so much to see what was once a loving community destroyed in as little as 40 years.I like to hear stuff like this. I, for one, never understood why people seem to point out that the black boys that do grow up into undesirable situations, was due to the fact that they grew up in a fatherless home. To me, I just can't see the logic in that, especially if one still had a mother who showed to love the boy and such and was supportive of him. I don't see how any child who grew up with these types of things, can grow up to become a "statistic". I like the fact that you worked hard in your life, kept out of trouble, used what god gave you...common sense.

Maybe I can't negate or associate a fatherless home with that child growing up to commit crimes because I've never witnessed it. Most of my aunts were single parents, but only two of them had boys. My mother's youngest sister has two boys and a girl. Her boys do all right, stay out of trouble for the most part, holding down jobs. They're 18 and 21. The girl is still in high school. My other aunt...well, she doesn't count...she and her husband split after many years of being together, so the kids did have a father figure, but he wasn't a very positive one due to his being abusive, dangerous, a stalker (after she split from him), etc. Either way, her two boys turned out okay as well...that I know of. They're not in jail, I know that much. lol

[Blackman7]

America Has Lost A Generation Of Black Boys
6) Teach black boys to respect all girls and women.

He forgot to add "teach black GIRLS to respect "all boys and men".

If you WANT respect, you gotta GIVE respect!

Create a stable home environment for black boys that includes contact
with their fathers.

Not specific enough.

Being a "part time father" is ineffective. Many boys do evil while their father's away. If he SERIOUSLY wants to make black boys better, then he should listen to the ALMIGHTY GOD. The man should be the HEAD of his HOUSE and raise his son in a TWO PARENT FAMILY.

[SirNoseDevo]

It took me 31 years, a whole lot of tears, manipulation, deception, and little bit off street smarts to get where I am today, you see I am a product of a single mother household. The man who calls himself my father left me and my brother when I was 6 years old and brother was 3 years and I instantly became the man of the house. I blamed my father for a lot over the years and hated him for every time I had to learn a life lesson on my own. I considered him a coward. It wasn't until a couple years ago after he tried to commit suicide and once again I was thrust right into a position of responsibly of taking care of him. You see he did not die, he is in a vegitative state and without a power of attourny, will or anthing else I was forced to take him in my home along with my 2 year old son, because he had no insurance, his other 2 sons refused to help out and the daughter was a minor at the time. I felt like the whole world was on my back, you see I am also a single father, because my son's mother left us when he was 6 months old, today he is 3 years old and only has me. After a year of fighting in court I finally got power of attourney over my father. He is in a nursing home now, but from that point I made my son a promise to teach him the things I had to learn on my own, to be there when he needs someone to talk too, and to never turn my back on him, because my people turned theirs on me. Everyday I watch scores of young black men dieing on television, in the newspapers, and even sometimes in front of me. I gaze upon my son's eyes every morning as we sit and have breakfast and dream of the possibilities, maybe he can be the first in his family to make something of himself. I dreamed of being a computer scientist when I was growing up I never got the opportunity to go to college until I turned 34. Black men have to do everything twice a good there is no room for error!!! Can't you see we are under attack and have been since the sixties. When was the last time you patronized a black owed business, and I mean other than barbque joints, barber shops, hair salons, and record shops? Remember when we owned almost everything in our neighborhoods? I do and that's why it hurts so much to see what was once a loving community destroyed in as little as 40 years.

I am also a single Father who caught hell from the White man's
Child Support. I had no other choice but to raise my Son and
Daughter until they both was grown. I was 44 years old before
I met my Biologicial Father, and my first question to him was why
he wasn't in my life as I was growing up? After hearing what his
reasons was I was in shock, and I had to forgive him because of
fact that it was all my Mother's parents fault.

However during my childhood my Mother met a man when I was
three (3) years old, and like the old school song say....I called
him my Father..due to the fact that he helped to make me the
Father and GrandFather I am today.

To my young Brothers always remember these major concerns.
Break the curse that has labeled the Black man as unwanted
and un-concerned Fathers. We are not responsible for the many
problems of parenthood, but we can do certain things to bring
our young Black males and females up in the right direction, and
walking out on them isn't the solution.

In closing, lets take a reality check for a minute, and look at the
many Black young women who have taken their child(ren) lifes.
My heart goes out to them Sisters who committed such crimes,
but we must also realize that its happening in the white race, and
again, Suspect....Hats off to you.

We must be more protective (plus) aware to what's going on with
our Black youth. We must show them love and understanding even
if they are not our own blood, and we must teach them how to stand
up for whatever they believe in.

I would not be a fair guy if I did not salute you Sisters for having
the courage to be real Mothers, and there would not be any good
men if it wasn't for you. Sir NoseDevo of Funk

[Blackman7]

Teach black boys to respect all girls and women.



Then all black girls and women better be WORTHY of respect! Not many boys are gonna respect a drunk or ignorant slut.

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Is THIS black woman "worthy of respect"???

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/10/cleveland_police_prepare_to_ch.html

Cleveland Police charge woman in deaths of children

Posted by Gabriel Baird October 02, 2007 13:33PM

Cleveland officials charged a woman with two counts of aggravated murder today accusing her of drowning her daughters: Cecess Hill, 2, and Jannelle Cintron, 4.


Amber Hill, 22, is in City Jail. Police think she may be suicidal, according to reports.

Cuyahoga County Coroner Frank Miller ruled the deaths homicides after an autopsy today. Detectives said earlier in the day that once the deaths were ruled homicides, they would go to prosecutors and ask that the woman be charged with murder.

Police sees the case as clear cut.

Commander Ed Tomba, who oversees the homicide unit, said that officers observed physical evidence at the hospital pointing to the children being intentionally drowned. He declined to elaborate on this evidence. Officers found no scratches or other wounds on Hill that would indicate a struggle with the kids, he said.

However, two neighbors, who heard the ruckus, have given statements to police and so has the girls' father, Jaimie Cintron, 23.

He told police that Hill called him at work about 12:30 p.m. and said the children were "resting at peace," police said. He raced home to the family's apartment in the Community Apartments in the 7700 block of Woodland Avenue. The complex is not owned by the Cuyahoga Metropolitan Housing Authority as previously reported.

Cintron went on to tell police that when he got home, he confronted Hill, then found the children motionless in the tub.

He called 9-1-1 but in his grief dispatchers found it nearly impossible to understand exactly what had happened other than that he needed an ambulance. He kept crying out, "Why!?! Why!?! Why!?!"

The children were taken to MetroHealth Medical Center and pronounced dead.

Hill initially refused to tell the police anything other than her name and date of birth. However, after she was taken to the Justice Center, she became somewhat more cooperative.

Tomba declined to discuss her statement. He did, however, say, that she did not blame what had happened on her being a past victim of domestic violence.

Cleveland Municipal Court records show that Cintron was convicted of domestic violence in 2006. Bedford Municipal Court records show he was placed on probation in 2004 after pleading no contest and being found guilty of domestic violence. Hill was the victim in both cases.

In the 2006 case, Hill told police that Cintron choked her then broke her television with a hammer.

Details of the Bedford case were not immediately available.

Drowning is a very rare method of killing someone. Cuyahoga County Coroner's records show no drowning deaths ruled homicides in the last five years.

Tomba has overseen the homicide unit during that time.

"We've never had anything like this," he said.

"This is really, really disturbing," Tomba said. "These kids were at the hand of their mother, someone that they trusted very much."
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Anyone who thinks that "ALL black women should be respected", has a LOT to learn about life!!!!

[Blackman7]

Black people need to stop being STUPID with all this "respect all women" nonsense, and understand that the SOLUTION for black boys is a TWO PARENT HOME. :)

[Blackman7]

America Has Lost A Generation Of Black Boys

By Phillip Jackson
Executive Director of the Black Star Project
Chicago, IL
blackstar1000@ameritech.net

There is no longer a need for dire predictions, hand-wringing, or
apprehension about losing a generation of black boys. It is too late. In
education, employment, economics, incarceration, health, housing, and
parenting, we have lost a generation of young black men. The question
that remains is will we lose the next two or three generations, or
possibly every generation of black boys hereafter to the streets,
negative media, gangs, drugs, poor education, unemployment, father
absence, crime, violence and death.

Most young black men in the United States don't graduate from high
school. Only 35% of black male students graduated from high school in
Chicago and only 26% in New York City, according to a 2006 report by
The Schott Foundation for Public Education. Only a few black boys who
finish high school actually attend college, and of those few black boys
who enter college, nationally, only 22% of them finish college.

Young black male students have the worst grades, the lowest test scores,
and the highest dropout rates of all students in the country. When these
young black men don't succeed in school, they are much more likely to
succeed in the nation's criminal justice and penitentiary system. And it
was discovered recently that even when a young black man graduates from
a U.S. college, there is a good chance that he is from Africa, the
Caribbean or Europe, and not the United States.

Black men in prison in America have become as American as apple pie.
There are more black men in prisons and jails in the United States
(about 1.1 million) than there are black men incarcerated in the rest of
the world combined. This criminalization process now starts in
elementary schools with black male children as young as six and seven
years old being arrested in staggering numbers according to a 2005
report, Education on Lockdown by the Advancement Project.

The rest of the world is watching and following the lead of America.
Other countries including England, Canada, Jamaica, Brazil and South
Africa are adopting American social policies that encourage the
incarceration and destruction of young black men. This is leading to a
world-wide catastrophe. But still, there is no adequate response from
the American or global black community.

Worst of all is the passivity, neglect and disengagement of the black
community concerning the future of our black boys. We do little while
the future lives of black boys are being destroyed in record numbers.
The schools that black boys attend prepare them with skills that will
make them obsolete before, and if, they graduate. In a strange and
perverse way, the black community, its elf, has started to w age a kind
of war against young black men and has become part of this destructive
process.

Who are young black women going to marry? Who is going to build and
maintain the economies of black communities? Who is going to anchor
strong families in the black community? Who will young black boys
emulate as they grow into men? Where is the outrage of the black
community at the destruction of its black boys? Where are the plans and
the supportive actions to change this? Is this the beginning of the end
of the black people in America ?

The list of those who have failed young black men includes our
government, our foundations, our schools, our media, our black churches,
our black leaders, and even our parents. Ironical ly, experts say that
the solutions to the problems of young black men are simple and
relatively inexpensive, but they may not be easy, practical or popular.
It is not that we lack solutions as much as it is that we lack the will
to implement these solutions to save black boys. It seems that
government is willing to pay billions of dollars to lock up young black
men, rather than the millions it would take to prepare them to become
viable contributors and valued members of our society.

Please consider these simple goals that can lead to solutions for fixing
the problems of young black men:

Short term
1) Teach all black boys to read at grade level by the third grade and to
embrace education.
2) Provide positive role models for black boys.
3) Create a stable home environment for black boys that includes contact
with their fathers.
4) Ensure that black boys have a strong spiritual base.
5) Control the negative media influences on black boys.
6) Teach black boys to respect all girls and women.

Long term
1) Invest as much money in educating black boys as in locking up black
men.
2) Help connect black boys to a positive vision of themselves in the
future.
3) Create high expectations and help black boys live into those high
expectations.
4) Build a positive peer culture for black boys.
5) Teach black boys self-discipline, culture and history.
6) Teach black boys and the communities in which they live to embrace
education and life-long learning.



I wouldn't want this idiot "mentoring" MY children. I'd prefer they had a mentor that knows what he is TALKING about!

[Blackman7]

"With sayings like "respect all women", it appears that most black americans are living in a DREAM WORLD(where all women are perfect).

I wonder if they will ever wake up??? :rolleyes:

[Blackman7]

The WHITE MAN has BRAINWASHED them and MESSED UP THEIR MINDS.

Mission Accomplished.

The WHITE MAN has taught them welll!!!!

[Blackman7]

Whos fault is that because our young Black Brothers are
raising themselves? Each of these posts is condemning
the Black man

You got it, bruh! That is why we must SPEAK OUT anytime someone suggests such IGNORANCE!!!!

Overcome ignorance with intelligence
Overcome selfishness with liberalism
Overcome lies with truth
Overcome hatred with love

[Ms.D.]

When we as a people stop looking for others (the school system, the television, the grandparents, the gangs, the peer groups, the sports teams, etc.) to raise our children we will see a significant change in our boys (and girls). This problem is a direct result of parenting, plain and simple. Education begins in the home. Sadly, I must agree that now we have too many homes with parents who are poorly educated (in all aspects of life), so the cycle of "poor thinking" is perpetuated.

One way to conquer this problem is for adults to mentor other adults. If you have a strong family, look for a family that needs your assistance. There is no short supply of families and I dare say, you probably can find a family or two inside your own extended family.

We seem to want to work the problem backwards, trying to mentor the young black boys is great, but if the foundation (the parents - Mom and Dad), is weak the young black boy will have a difficult (if not impossible) time attaining all that he needs to prosper (not just economically) in life.

Fix the foundation, the parents - Mom and Dad. Don't just blame a nonexistent Dad or an uninvolved Mom. I know that there are a lot of families that don't live under the same roof, but they are still a family. [I could go on and on about fixing that problem, but that is another topic altogether.]

So, if you are a strong parent, if you have it together, find a father and a mother who could benefit from your wisdom and spend some time mentoring the parents!

[Blackman7]

So, if you are a strong parent, if you have it together, find a father and a mother who could benefit from your wisdom and spend some time mentoring the parents!

The problem with that suggestion is that those types of parents won't listen anyway. If they were the type to listen, they probably wouldn't be in that situation in the FIRST PLACE.

I'm sure that MANY single mothers, against WISE counsel, laid down and got pregnant by their now deadbeat baby daddies. They're the types of women that won't LISTEN, because they got a HARD HEAD! :)

[Ms.D.]

The problem with that suggestion is that those types of parents won't listen anyway. If they had intelligence, they likely wouldn't be in that situation in the FIRST PLACE.

I'm sure that MANY single mothers, against WISE counsel, laid down and made their babies with their now deadbeat daddies. They're the types that won't LISTEN to WISDOM, because they got a HARD HEAD! :)

You know what you may be right for a lot of those parents, but persistence is the key. We must believe and we must try to reach others. If not, what is the use in discussing anything. If one Father or one Mother is reached and can be taught a parenting lesson that will benefit their child; it is worth the fight. We must try, if not you, if not I, then who? We need to stop calling ourselves "The Family" if you don't include the entire family (even those who don't realize they are a part of the family) - Hard heads and all!

[Suspect]

Respect is only deserved if you respect others for who they are. I know that they are out there but I have yet to meet a black woman or any woman who respects a black man for being a man. This is not about respecting all woman, what about respecting me as the man of the house. Recognize if you are a black man, you are at the bottom of the food chain, don't believe me look around and listen next time you go to work, shopping, out for any activity, and observe how you are treated. The black folks won't give you the level of service you deserve even when you are paying you money, and the other races profile you as a thug. ssjup81 I guess I was not clear and got off the subject, but so what 2 black men out of 100 instead of 98 out 100 turned out okay what kind of careers do they have? Do they work for someone or own businesses other than chicken wing joints and bars the fact remains is one parent households do not work and never will. If they did then it would only being one species on this earth. God created men and women, not just women. My situation was forced on me

[Blackman7]

You know what you may be right for a lot of those parents, but persistence is the key. We must believe and we must try to reach others. If not, what is the use in discussing anything. If one Father or one Mother is reached and can be taught a parenting lesson that will benefit their child; it is worth the fight. We must try, if not you, if not I, then who? We need to stop calling ourselves "The Family" if you don't include the entire family (even those who don't realize they are a part of the family) - Hard heads and all!

You are right. If we can save ONE black person, it's worth it, but one bit of advice: Don't waste too much time tryin' to teach fools. :)

[Blackman7]

Respect is only deserved if you respect others for who they are. I know that they are out there but I have yet to meet a black woman or any woman who respects a black man for being a man.

Tru dat, bruh! In the Land of White Supremacy, the BLACK MAN is ALWAYS at the BOTTOM of the totem pole! (but I remain optimistic)

[Novinha]

www.blackstarproject.org

[MommaTT]

It is obvious that we have lost several generations of black men. I know men who range from age 60< who do not have a clue about life nor how to live it. Parents are definitely at the forefront of this catastrophe. For many years we've raised our daughters and assumed our sons could take care of themselves. Children are not born into this world knowing all the ins and outs, they need guidance. Little boys need to be taught how to be grown men. Our racist society only adds to problem (that's another issue in itself). I see several outreach programs for our females, but where are the positive, mentoring type organizations for our sons who have not already fallen victim to the juvenile system? Are there any?

[Blackman7]

The bottom line is that in this world ruled by Satan, many children will have FOOLISH and/or WICKED parents.

"Blessed is the child of wise parents", a wise man once said.

[ssjup81]

ssjup81 I guess I was not clear and got off the subject, but so what 2 black men out of 100 instead of 98 out 100 turned out okay what kind of careers do they have?I mentioned four guys. One is a little younger than me, but I'm not sure what he's doing. I'm pretty sure his older brother (30s) runs his own business and it deals with electrician type work. As for my other two cousins (18 & 21), they're still pretty young. The 18 year old is a recent high school graduate, and he works in fast-food (had the job in high school, mainly to help out his mother with bills; not sure what he's planning on doing now), just as his older brother (21 year old). The 21 year old dropped out of high school to join job-corp, but he didn't like it, and returned, but the school wouldn't allow him to enroll back in, which was screwed since his grades were good before he left (the guidance counselor was the one to talk him into joining job corp). Anyway, he has a GED. He's the manager of a clothing store run by a friend (Korean family)...well, he was just recently promoted to manager.

Either way, the only reason I could mention these four, was mainly because we're a family full of females, and they're the only four males (plus one more, but, he didn't grow up in a single-parent household, but he is trying to start up his own business, but forgot what kind...I just know it involves his having to reside in Thailand for a while) out of my mother's sister's children. The rest of us are girls.

Oh, another cousin of mine (he's a second cousin, but in his 30s), is a CPA, so he works for a company, and has started up his own financial consultant type company, if I'm not mistaken and still working hard to make that a success. His younger brother (also in his thirties) is working hard as well with going back to university, but I'm not sure if he's going to try and get his own business.My situation was forced on meBut you still turned out to be a decent, respectable man even though you grew up in a single-parent household. That's the point I was trying to make there. I'm sorry you did have to go through such a rough time, and I commend you for it, but I still find it a bit surprising that it's expected for a black boy to grow up "bad", so to speak, if they do grow up in such an environment. IMO, regardless if the home is single-parent with a mother or a father, if that parent show his/her child love, acceptance, support, encouragement, then the child should turn out okay...but of course, my view is a bit skewed since I've never actually witnessed any "bad eggs" from "single-parent" homes. I've come across more folks from two-parent homes that end up screwed up in some way, or causing trouble, as opposed to single-parent ones, where males are involved.

[Rhoza Holmes]

There is a generation of Black Men that are misplaced but they are definitely not lost. All things are possible in God. Get ready for a great move of God to "Restore the Black Man back to Usefulness". back to his original place as the head not the tail. I listen to your program during the march for Jena 6, and you had a listener call in and asked the question “Why our race is so hated”. After this question I was moved with compassion because I knew I had the answer. My name is Rhoza Holmes, a teacher with a passion of God’s truths. I am originally from Virginia but presently residing in Raleigh NC. I have 17 years of teaching experience in the ministry of our Lord God. This includes operating a Christian daycare (12 years) developing and implementing a spiritual help line (10 years) teaching at a bible college (7 years). During my many years of ministry, God has given me a heart for the black man. He has chosen me to provide the black man with His (God’s) knowledge of the truth about his (the black man’s origin), His truth about his original relationship with God through the pineal, the root and cause of his condition today and his impending restoration to the place of usefulness in his kingdom.
For those that have a kindred spirt in their for the black man. I would appreciate an opportunity to speak to you about the plan God has given me to speak to the Black man. Teaching is my great love, for my purpose and me is to teach the Black Man and Woman through a series of speaking engagements entitled “Restoring the Black Man Back to Usefulness”. In these speaking engagements, I bring forth knowledge and truth gleaned from studying and revelations from God about the Black mans great beginning and God’s movement to restore him back to his original place.


Contact Information: Rhoza Holmes
4520 Hargrove Road
Apt 208
Raleigh NC 27604
Work: 919-217-4343
Home 919-160-5913
Associate:Charles Mckoy 919-291-9494

[SirNoseDevo]

Yet, There is many Black parents who was raised doing the
real depressing stages of hardship and discrimination, but
they did manage to teach us that family value must come
first, and our Black society have gone away from that kind
of giving love and teaching.

Racism has a BIG part in how respect is taught in the homes
and schools. When I was a kids growing up here in Detroit I
discovered that Whites always thought and taught their kids
that they was better then we are, and later on in my teenage
years I found that to be true (especially when I was jumped
on by a GROUP of white boys not one), and I had to gether my
gang to stomp them a**es.

I use to travel South every summer, and at every restaurant
where I was served after I was done the plate,or glass that I
used was thrown away, and from that I begin to grow up hating
whites. However, now I see why those ignorant a** whites acted
like they did, and thanks to my parents I learned when to react
and not react.

I do not care how one might try to sweeten the facts of reality
when it comes to racism. Somethings us older people do not have
to teach our young Blacks anything, due to the fact that they can
see for themselves, and its up to us (the older generation) to show
them the correct way of doing things.

We must re-teach them about self-esteem, self-determination,
self-motivation, and above all respect for themselves. We must
also explain to them that its a time and place to do anything,
and the battle against racism & discrimination is a on going
battle that only the strong can win.

In closing, My job consists of me going around to different
community activities and events, and I speak to mostly the
middle school grade level (Kids all color). I talk about my days
in the Black Panthers. I explain to them the reasons for the
race rebellion in the 60's and 1970s, and I talk about Jim Crow's
generation that alive & well today.

The main objective in everything I do is to show my young people
that Whites is no better then anyone else...we are all equal.

Sir NoseDevo of Funk

[Blackman7]

Big ups and much respect to all the intelligent people on this site! :)

[JukeboxJones]

We need to educate our boys early, teach them Black History. We as the parents need to teach them Black History regularly, not just in February. Let them know Our people built this world. I didn't fully learn about my history until I went to college. Sadly I just squeaked out of high school and I refused to be a person without any since of pride, my "so-called friends" teased me and the sad part about them, they were still in high school and the crazy part was they were all older then me.

I tend to think, what if my mother taught me black history when I was five or six cause my Daddy was busy chasing women getting them pregnant and not doing anything for his children. I had to search out for books cause the parents expect the teachers to teach their children. Teaching always begans at home, it is how I teach my children. We as Black people are expected to fail, I know I was always expected to fail. Teach our young men about their history early, so we can prevent them from going to jail. It is sad, a black man in the inner city gets more respect for going to jail then going to college to earn a PhD. There is something wrong with this picture, this has got to change.

[summerbrezw]

I do agree with what you are saying I grew up with my Father raising 4 girls alone for a while and He was without an Education working for the Gov. from the age of 18 yrs old. His Parents tought him to work and not stress how important it was to get an Education. My Father stressed Education upon all of us which is 7 of us now but before when it was daddy and his 4 girls he did everything in his power to move us from welston to hazelwood in the early 80's mind you working in house keeping and moved up to landscaping out side working sun up to sun down but he still made time for us to sit at the kitchen table and talk about God, Education, Respect for yourself and others. I mean for a Black Man raising children own his own He taught us what he knew and encourged us to take it further. Like he would all ways say each Generation suppose to break the cycle and take things further. We learn our History in the kitchen from my father when we would eat dinner or just sit at the table he would start talking about Africa and Egypt which caused us to look more andmore into our history and now I teach my child that. I was teaching my child at the age of 2 how to learn words and read books I didnt put pressure on my son I made learn fun where half of the time he didnt realize he was learn because he was having fun playing with mom. and now I am proud of him. he held honor roll from the kindergarden to highschool now he is at 3.6 G.P.A and he wants the honor roll but I told him then you have a choice you can step your game up andmake the honors you are a door away or you can just settle well he is my child he dont want to settle so he is tepping his game up. but I am very active with him as a parent and I support him he has been accepted to the JA program, he has recieved certificates from Barnes Jewish Hosiptal for his Volunteering. I mean if you talk to your children and listen to them as well I mean hear them and what they wouldlike to do and not what you want them to do you would be supprise what your child will do. I get so many adults telling me my son is well manor and thats makes me feel proud I talk to my son everday we talk about everything and I keep it real with him as well. I hope tha wecan come together as a people and parents to save our children I talk to my sons friend and the children in my family andfriends kids:) about knowing who you are as a person and as a people because they need to know that it is not just about us beening in slavery but its about before slavery who was you who was your prople what did they do. and I tell them you are a very powerful person because you come from powerful people and We need to carry on with the knowledge and creativity we have to rebuild ourselves again so I am praying for all of us because this is so out of control and sad

[deadeyes]

We've got to find a way to stop these media racists from reporting about every instance of our victimized black youth killing an innocent black youth with a promising future.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,300326,00.html

[alphagreg1906]

You can not have a lose until you cash out or given up on our youth. This is a basic tenant of the stock market. Never give up on our youth; no one gave up on us.

[filmoredollar]

Who's fault is this? Traps exist in this world but unlike most animals we have the choice as to weather or not we fall into these traps. Personal responsibility people. Let's try it.

[filmoredollar]

You know what really gets to me. All of these adults keep telling me a young man that my generation is lost and saying things like "back in the day we had respect". Let me say this as clearly as I can. I don't want to hear anymore about how bad off my generation is when we were raised by the same people who stood up during the civil rights movement, which by far was black americas finest hour. If my generation is lost today then we have your generation to thank for your lack of leadership. Ones behavior often determines ones conditions and behavior is taught it doesn't just happen. So if you think things are so bad then stop looking down on young people and start helping them.

[winnerinlife]

You know what really gets to me. All of these adults keep telling me a young man that my generation is lost and saying things like "back in the day we had respect". Let me say this as clearly as I can. I don't want to hear anymore about how bad off my generation is when we were raised by the same people who stood up during the civil rights movement. Because, if my generation is lost we have your generation to thank for your lack of leadership. Ones behavior often determines their conditions and behavior is taught it doesn't just happen.

WOW! You are so right! My mother confessed to me once that her generation dropped the ball yet I hear the same "we had respect" speech too. I'm sick of it also. I'm tired of them telling me what they did "back in the day". Well, guess what: "the day" has not changed. If it was changed, we would not have had to march in Jena.

[kocorose]

As I read your article I was visulaizing our black youth of today.
I started wondering if you had a solution to the problem or if
you were noting a top ten list without any solutions.
There are great solutions listed. However, I don't feel that if
children don't have good/great parents, or any at all that's an excuse
for them to fail. I understand we have an unjust system as it relates
to all black males. Nevertheless, the same way we as a people/community rallied behind Jena Six, we must get behind evey black male and support them with everything we have. We need to use some of Malcolm X's practices. We need some all boy schools so they can be taught, mentored,
loved and nutured so we can flip the script that society has written for them.
If we as a people pull all our resources we could do this.

What other options do we have?

[blkav8tor2003]

Well in my opinion we need to change how we(us) as a community speak and refer to each other. How is it in our community we have "baby daddies" and "baby mommas" but in most other cultures it's just "mom and dad" when referencing parents of children. We have made it kool to be glorified and classified as a "baby momma or baby daddy". If we don't stop showing todays youth that it is kool to be a baby daddy and show them the consequences of their actions or the actions of the fathers before them. We need to help all young black males and show them that there is more to life than rap music and pro atheletics and without the everyday man doing his part those atheletes and rappers would not be able to do what they do....Not everyone can be the "star"!!!

BlkAv8tor2003

[Jobim]

I work in the Maryland Judicial system, I am the first person they see after they are arrested. I just want to comment on the mother and the bail situation that was on the radio.

One, you get one side of the story. There are many factors in deciding Bail. The first is the crime. Bail is to determine whether you go to court, based on your history as well. If you have a history of failing to appear, it looks bad, and makes it look like they don't go to court.

Bail is also decided whether or not the defendant is harmful to society and the community at large. And if a person alledgedly committed murder, the commissioner can only go by what's in the 4 corners of their paperwork.

Now, one can determine certain thing when one takes to the defendant...but due to certain political circumstances, a person can get hemmed up, if you don't put a bond on defendant (believe me I know)

I try to talk to the young black men that come in, sometimes it sinks in, sometimes it doesn't. Especially those who have their first charge, they are scared...I tell them to not come back again...look around you, this is the place where certain people want you to be...

[beautifulone]

It's interesting the wording that is used to describe our children and the conversation on this board. Words have energy. The conversation should be HOW CAN WE SAVE OUR YOUNG BOYS. Stop blaming each other and do something. As long as we keep pointing the finger nothing will ever get solved.

We need more responsible men in schools, more afterschool programs with a structure that will help build their self esteeme and increase their test scores.

We can get it right if we just stop blaming the teen age mother what about the teenage father. Our children need their parents whether they are together or not. The majority of children in Newark are being taken care of by their grandmothers so you know grandma loves them but can she discipline a young man - come on stop the nonsense and do something.

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[maureen44]

I have my son in jail because I could not come up with the money for lawyer right away he asign a public defender the pd want him to take a plea I am totally against it. So I asked him if my son don't deserve a fear trail, he said. What about the state they don't deserve fearness? My son is mentally ill he suffer from bipolarschizophrenia which is call schizoactive, and they don't even look into that.

[deadeyes]

Who's fault is this? Traps exist in this world but unlike most animals we have the choice as to weather or not we fall into these traps. Personal responsibility people. Let's try it.

You'd better be careful using terms like "personal responsibility" on these forums. These threads are for victims only.

While Mr. Jackson may be leaning in the correct direction, the true solutions aren't so complex. Statistically, there are only 3 things a person needs to do to all but ensure success in America and a quick look at the census data will prove it.

The solutions:

1. Finish high school
2. Don't get pregnant before you get married.
3. Even after you’re married, don't attempt to raise a child until at least 21.

That is it. Anyone who manages to do these three simple things has an 80% chance of never living in poverty. Conversely, violation of any of these three rules will give you the same 80% chance of having to live with poverty for some extended period. The success rate climbs from this baseline nearly exponentially for those who continue their education beyond high school or for those that postpone pregnancy for a few more years.

Just because I know the militant victims who lurk around here will ask...those who follow the rules but still don't make it into the 80% tend to make other inherently harmful lifestyle choices like drug abuse and other criminal activity. The numbers who follow the rules and don't engage in these types of behaviors that still don't remain out of poverty are miniscule. I've no doubt that if you did a breakout by race you would find that the blacks only rate was slightly lower. Even if there were a 15% difference that would still leave the success rates at 65% and it would still climb exponentially for those who go beyond the requirements.

[sq357]

Today and tommorrow's Generation is not lost...they are searching! Searching for that Lost Generation that abandoned them years ago. If you are above the age of 40 (I am), you are in the Lost Generation. Collectively we have left behind the generations that followed--left them wandering in the wilderness.

Sons abandoned, adused women, drug abuse--It's you--Lost generation who cause the self destruction within our community. No wonder our young boys are searching.

[derrtyjersey14]

Michael this is where the problem comes in. People dont know the CJ system so they dont understand it so they think things about it that are not true. For example when you post a bond you do get your money back if the defendent shows up for court. The bail or bond is just an assurance that you will be in court for your court date. That is why and how people are able to put up their houses or cars. If the person shows up they do not lose a thing its when they dont show up that the money, house or car is not returned to the party that put the bond up.

[derrtyjersey14]

Growing up I hated the CJ system, I dont know why I just did. I'm a 80's baby you know F...the police anyway. My senior year I had to take a Government and Law class and I learned so much I have dedicated my life to the Criminal Justice System. I love it love it love it. But I am no fool I know they are injustices in the system that is one reason why I want to work with policies so we can ENFORCE the system that we have. See the problem is not the CJ system so to speak it is the CJ system being used and abuse and justice not being equal. That is the problem. So to all my people out there who hate the CJ system I dont think you hate the system I think you hate the way its being run. And that I too hate.

But personally speaking I love the CJ system I love what it is designed to do and how it is designed to do it. I bet there are not many people who even know the name of their mayor but can name the last 5 presidents. (see it starts at home in your community not in the white house) I bet there are many people who dont even know what the 3rd amendment to the constitution is. I bet most people dont know the 9th or 10th.

Yes I believe they have pulled the rug over many people eyes but like MB said this has been going on for years people are now just saying something about it. And yeah its about time but I feel before people go and talk about how the system needs to be changed they need to first know what the system is then and only then can there but change.

[SirNoseDevo]

I am a Family Protection Investigator that sees on the daily bases
Court Appointed Lawyers telling clients to do a plead. To me this
is a form of unfair Justice. Especially for a first time offender, and
the name of the game is about money.

Also here in Michigan we have laws that's under the Mental Health
by-laws & guidelines that regulates people with mental disorders
who commit a so-called crime, and most victims with a mental health
issue are the most individuals who generally get caught up in the
justice system.

Patients Rights is what regulates what's good or bad for people
with a mental disability. A person also have the rights to switch
lawyers IF they are not being served properly. Maureen, I suggest
that you contact your local mental health office to find out more
details concerning what went down in court with your Son, and
if you should have a problem take it to the state level.

However, I have had cases whereas the Mother commits a criminal
act against their child, and they play the I have a mental disorder
to receive a lighter sentence. Sometimes when I am involved in a
case like that I file a complaint requesting a complete intake be
done on the client, and then kicked back into court.

Only a narrow minded one sided thinker would come up with a thread
topic.....America Has Losted A Generation of Black Boys. They're in
the O-Zone when it comes to rap music, and that's because some
hardcore rap talks about the hardship of a Black man in society. Now
many fears that Gangster Rap is destorying Blacks. Well I am here
to say Gangster Rap is a white boy's thang too. So what the hell is
a White Boys problem wanting to look,sound,and act Black?

So America isn't just losing the Black generation, but it seems to be
including the White generation as well, and if society wants to point
at someone point at the White boys too.

[Miss Johnnie]

:) I agree with it on the most part. As a single mother of 5 boys none of which have ever been arrested and all but the 2 youngest have graduated from High School and gone to College. The 2 younger ones ages 13 and 17 are already College bond. Education in mandatory in our house and they know that failure is not an option!!!!! I also have two daughters whom have gone to 4yr Universities and graduated as well. So my whole point is this it can be done but it starts in the womb and at home. It should not be left to the teachers nor society to raise our children we as parents must stop being punks and do our job raising our YOUNG BLACK MEN!!!!!!!!!!!

[derrtyjersey14]

Hold up dont say all attorneys work for the court

PEOPLE DONT KNOW THE SYSTEM and they use that as an excuse. My lawyer is this my public defender is that, they lost my case, they work for the government. I am not saying that all, some people are there because they care. I care about what I do and all the attorneys WHITE and BLACK that work in my office care about our clients and we go to bat for them all the way. But lets be real. If people wasnt out there committing crimes they wouldnt have to worry about the CJ system. Mike said he got parents and people coming up to him talking about "he hit her over the head but he didnt mean to kill her" Come on. Mike said it the best a couple of weeks ago the system is NOT FOR BLACKS MEN OR WOMEN so dont get caught up in the system in the first place. Because you know what you might have to take a plea deal instead of going to trial but if you wouldnt have committed the crime then you wouldnt have to worry about it.

Now I am talking about everybody because I know people are in prison and they are innocent but I dont know a lot of people who are in prison and thats where they should be for the rest of their lives.

[grenetta b]

Black people need to stop being STUPID with all this "respect all women" nonsense, and understand that the SOLUTION for black boys is a TWO PARENT HOME. :)



IT'S ALOT OF TIMES WE CANNOT GROWN-UP IN TWO PARENT HOMES.
BUT THAT ONE PARENT NEVER STOP TEACHING US THE RIGHT WAYS OF A HOME.

LIFE IS NOT ALWAYS A PICKET FENCE AND A YELLOW HOUSE WITH A DOG AND TWO PARENTS.

AND BECAUSE A WOMAN OR MAN HAS ONLY ONE PARENT DOESN'T MAKE THEM ANY LESS OF A MAN OR WOMAN BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE BOTH PARENTS AT HOME.

IN SLAVERY DAYS ALOT OF TIMES THE BLACK MAN WOULD GO OUT AND LEAVE HIS HOME TO PROVIDE FOR HIS FAMILY AND NEVER COME BACK. AND THAT WOMAN WOULD HAVE TO FEND FOR THOSE CHILDREN HERSELF.


LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING A MAN OR WOMAN IS HERE TODAY AND SOMETIMES GONE TOMORROW. AND DEATH, HELL AND THE GRAVE IS ALWAYS WAITING.


JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE ONE PARENT HOMES YOU NEVER CURSE THEM YOU PRAY FOR THEM EVEN MORE CAUSE THEY TAKE ON A RESPONSIBLITY THAT IS NEVER ENDING. THEY CAN'T GIVE UP ON THEIR KIDS AND WALK AWAY LIKE THE OTHER PARENT DID. THEY HAVE TO STAY AND FIGHT FOR THEIR CHILDS LIFE AND TEACH THEM THE RIGHT WAYS SO THAT THEY LEARN NOT TO STRAY AWAY FROM FAMILY:p .

[enpowermentnow]

Fatherless Pride--

It's my prayer that Black Men reclaim their children--Dad, where ever you are...I made it--but I needed you.

You can achieve alot in life.....but you still wonder would it have been different with your dad

[filmoredollar]

WOW! You are so right! My mother confessed to me once that her generation dropped the ball yet I hear the same "we had respect" speech too. I'm sick of it also. I'm tired of them telling me what they did "back in the day". Well, guess what: "the day" has not changed. If it was changed, we would not have had to march in Jena.

Your right the ball was dropped. But it's only been 40 years since the peak of the 60's civil rights movement which was led mostly by young people. Dr. King for example was only in his 30's. Which means alot of these people are still here which means that their work is not done. We young people have a lot that can be learned from these men and wemen, they are still around but very few actually share their knowledge nowadays aside from their criticism of us (Their children). WE NEED GUIDENCE, LOVE, AND FOR THOSE WHO KNOW BETTER TO STAND WITH US AND STOP JUST PUTTING US DOWN.

[Blackman7]

IT'S ALOT OF TIMES WE CANNOT GROWN-UP IN TWO PARENT HOMES.
BUT THAT ONE PARENT NEVER STOP TEACHING US THE RIGHT WAYS OF A HOME.

LIFE IS NOT ALWAYS A PICKET FENCE AND A YELLOW HOUSE WITH A DOG AND TWO PARENTS.

AND BECAUSE A WOMAN OR MAN HAS ONLY ONE PARENT DOESN'T MAKE THEM ANY LESS OF A MAN OR WOMAN BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE BOTH PARENTS AT HOME.

IN SLAVERY DAYS ALOT OF TIMES THE BLACK MAN WOULD GO OUT AND LEAVE HIS HOME TO PROVIDE FOR HIS FAMILY AND NEVER COME BACK. AND THAT WOMAN WOULD HAVE TO FEND FOR THOSE CHILDREN HERSELF.


LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING A MAN OR WOMAN IS HERE TODAY AND SOMETIMES GONE TOMORROW. AND DEATH, HELL AND THE GRAVE IS ALWAYS WAITING.


JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE ONE PARENT HOMES YOU NEVER CURSE THEM YOU PRAY FOR THEM EVEN MORE CAUSE THEY TAKE ON A RESPONSIBLITY THAT IS NEVER ENDING. THEY CAN'T GIVE UP ON THEIR KIDS AND WALK AWAY LIKE THE OTHER PARENT DID. THEY HAVE TO STAY AND FIGHT FOR THEIR CHILDS LIFE AND TEACH THEM THE RIGHT WAYS SO THAT THEY LEARN NOT TO STRAY AWAY FROM FAMILY:p .

Of course, there are no absolutes in life, but the black race would be further ahead if the MAJORITY of black kids were raised in 2 parent families. If that was the case, more young black men would be filling the COLLEGES instead of the jails.

[filmoredollar]

Fatherless Pride--

It's my prayer that Black Men reclaim their children--Dad, where ever you are...I made it--but I needed you.

Same goes for me too. No bitterness though. I am breaking that cycle in my family through my kids by being here for them. All I can is set a better example.

[grenetta b]

Of course, there are no absolutes in life, but the black race would be further ahead if the MAJORITY of black kids were raised in 2 parent families. If that was the case, more young black men would be filling the COLLEGES instead of the jails!


:p JAIL CELLS ARE FILLED BECAUSE OF A PERSONS OWN SIN. NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT RAISED RIGHT CAUSE MY MOTHER RAISED SEVEN KIDS BY HERSELF NOT TO GO TO THE JAIL CELL.

AND IF WE DID AS ADULTS IT WAS BECAUSE OF OUR OWN FAULTS NOT OUR MOTHER.

THERE ARE ALOT OF TWO PARENT HOMES THAT ARE JUST AS MUCH MESSED UP AS ONE PARENT HOMES. YOU CAN TEACH A CHILD ALL THE RIGHT WAYS.
BUT WHEN THAT CHILD REACHES THE AGE OF ACCOUNTIBILTY THEY HAVE TO KNOW IF YOU GO OUT THEIR AND MAKE THE WRONG CHOICES THEN YOU HAVE TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS.:p

[Blackman7]

IT'S ALOT OF TIMES WE CANNOT GROWN-UP IN TWO PARENT HOMES.

African american women have a 63% divorce rate and 70% of all black american kids are being raised in homes without fathers. True, not EVERYONE can grow up in a 2 parent family, but those statistics show a SERIOUS PROBLEM.

BUT THAT ONE PARENT NEVER STOP TEACHING US THE RIGHT WAYS OF A HOME.

MOST single parent homes are headed by IGNORANT WOMEN. Hookers, lesbians, fools, airheads, drug addicts, bimbos, and ALL KINDS of women have babies. For obvious reasons, such women head mostly single parent homes.

LIFE IS NOT ALWAYS A PICKET FENCE AND A YELLOW HOUSE WITH A DOG AND TWO PARENTS.

But for a child raised in a single parent home, more often than not, "life" is with mama's IGNORANT BOYFRIENDS.

Bad women are made for BAD men and GOOD women are made for GOOD men!

AND BECAUSE A WOMAN OR MAN HAS ONLY ONE PARENT DOESN'T MAKE THEM ANY LESS OF A MAN OR WOMAN BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE BOTH PARENTS AT HOME.

As the BIBLE says, a BASTARD is ABOMINATION. Many times ILLEGITIMATE FATHERLESS kids commit violent crimes.

IN SLAVERY DAYS ALOT OF TIMES THE BLACK MAN WOULD GO OUT AND LEAVE HIS HOME TO PROVIDE FOR HIS FAMILY AND NEVER COME BACK. AND THAT WOMAN WOULD HAVE TO FEND FOR THOSE CHILDREN HERSELF.

During slavery times, a black kid had a better chance of being raised in a 2 parent family than he has today! If black women can't step up to the plate, OBEY and SUBMIT TO THEIR HUSBANDS, then instead of FILLING THE PRISONS, they oughta keep their LEGS CLOSED!!!!


LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING A MAN OR WOMAN IS HERE TODAY AND SOMETIMES GONE TOMORROW. AND DEATH, HELL AND THE GRAVE IS ALWAYS WAITING.

Adam and Eve were the first husband and wife. Therefore, marriage is even older than death!


JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE ONE PARENT HOMES YOU NEVER CURSE THEM YOU PRAY FOR THEM EVEN MORE CAUSE THEY TAKE ON A RESPONSIBLITY THAT IS NEVER ENDING. THEY CAN'T GIVE UP ON THEIR KIDS AND WALK AWAY LIKE THE OTHER PARENT DID. THEY HAVE TO STAY AND FIGHT FOR THEIR CHILDS LIFE AND TEACH THEM THE RIGHT WAYS SO THAT THEY LEARN NOT TO STRAY AWAY FROM FAMILY:p .

Every single parent is DIFFERENT. A few are wise, most are promiscuous, a lot of them are alcoholics, crackheads, and loose women.

Most are so stupid, you can SEE why they're not with their kids dads! :cool:

"Three things drive a man from his house; smoke, rain, and a scolding wife---English proverb

[Blackman7]

:p JAIL CELLS ARE FILLED BECAUSE OF A PERSONS OWN SIN. NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT RAISED RIGHT CAUSE MY MOTHER RAISED SEVEN KIDS BY HERSELF NOT TO GO TO THE JAIL CELL.

AND IF WE DID AS ADULTS IT WAS BECAUSE OF OUR OWN FAULTS NOT OUR MOTHER.

THERE ARE ALOT OF TWO PARENT HOMES THAT ARE JUST AS MUCH MESSED UP AS ONE PARENT HOMES. YOU CAN TEACH A CHILD ALL THE RIGHT WAYS.
BUT WHEN THAT CHILD REACHES THE AGE OF ACCOUNTIBILTY THEY HAVE TO KNOW IF YOU GO OUT THEIR AND MAKE THE WRONG CHOICES THEN YOU HAVE TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS.:p

The statistics speak for themselves. The MAJORITY of young black males convicted of violent crimes, were raised without their FATHERS in the home.

[grenetta b]

African american women have a 63% divorce rate and 70% of all black american kids are being raised in homes without fathers. True, not EVERYONE can grow up in a 2 parent family, but those statistics show a SERIOUS PROBLEM.



MOST single parent homes have IGNORANT PARENTS. Hookers, lesbians, fools, airheads, drug addicts, bimbos, and ALL KINDS of women have babies. For obvious reasons, such women head mostly single parent homes.



But for a child raised in a single parent home, more often than not, "life" is with mama's IGNORANT BOYFRIENDS.

Bad women are made for BAD men and GOOD women are made for GOOD men!



As the BIBLE says, a BASTARD is ABOMINATION. Many times ILLEGITIMATE FATHERLESS kids commit violent crimes.



During slavery times, a black kid had a better chance of being raised in a 2 parent family than he has today! If black women can't step up to the plate, OBEY and SUBMIT TO THEIR HUSBANDS, then instead of FILLING THE PRISONS, they oughta keep their LEGS CLOSED!!!!




Adam and Eve were the first husband and wife. Therefore, marriage is even older than death!




Every single parent is DIFFERENT. A few are wise, many are promiscuous, a lot of them are alcoholics, crackheads, and loose women.

Most are so stupid, you can SEE why they're not with their kids dads! :cool:


THAT MEANS YOU PRAY FOR THEM SWEETY NOT CALL THEM NAMES. CAUSE HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN LET HIM CAST THE FIRST STONE.:p

[Blackman7]

grenetta b,
Of course, among that MULTITUDE of BAD single mothers, there are a FEW GOOD ones. :)

Former NBA star, Isaiah Thomas's mother comes to mind.(see "The Mary Thomas Story")

[Blackman7]

THAT MEANS YOU PRAY FOR THEM SWEETY NOT CALL THEM NAMES. CAUSE HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN LET HIM CAST THE FIRST STONE.:p

Children need the TRUTH; they don't need a whole lotta lies;
So when you give em' love, you betta give it right---Jimi Hendrix

[grenetta b]

Children need the TRUTH; they don't need a whole lotta lies;
So when you give em' love, you betta give it right---Jimi Hendrix


I KNOW UR NOT USING JIMI HENDRIX HIS SIN SENT HIM STRAIGHT TO THE GRAVE:p



NO BETTER TRUTH TELLER THEN GOD:p

[grenetta b]

The statistics speak for themselves. The MAJORITY of young black males convicted of violent crimes, were raised without their FATHERS in the home.



MAKE A DIFFERENCE SWEETY NOT A STATISTIC IN A YOUNG MANS LIFE. THEN WE WON'T HAVE OUR YOUNG MEN IN THESE JAIL CELLS. ITS STARTS WITH YOU AS A MAN. IF YOU SEE A YOUTH GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION THEN BE MAN ENOUGH TO STEP IN AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THAT CHILDS LIFE.

SOMETIMES IT TAKE FOR THEM TO HEAR IT FROM A MAN THAT CARES ABOUT THEM AND IS NOT AFRAID TO APPROACH THEM :p

[Blackman7]

No, it starts with the MOTHER. If she's not intelligent enough to OBEY and SUBMIT to her husband, then she should keep her LEGS CLOSED! :)

[grenetta b]

No, it starts with the MOTHER. If she's not intelligent enough to OBEY and SUBMIT to her husband, then she should keep her LEGS CLOSED! :)


IF A MAN IS NOT GOING TO BE MAN ENOUGH AND TAKE CARE OF A CHILD THEN HE NEED TO ZIP IT , SLIT IT OR CRISS CROSS HIS THIRD LEG ALSO:p ITS NOT JUST THE WOMAN SWEETY:p

[Blackman7]

I KNOW UR NOT USING JIMI HENDRIX HIS SIN SENT HIM STRAIGHT TO THE GRAVE:p



NO BETTER TRUTH TELLER THEN GOD:p

The bible says that there's a time to be born, and a time to die.

Everything under the sun has a season and a purpose.

[Blackman7]

IF A MAN IS NOT GOING TO MAN ENOUGH AND TAKE CARE OF A CHILD THEN HE NEED TO ZIP IT , SLIT IT OR CRISS CROSS HIS THIRD LEG ALSO:p ITS NOT JUST THE WOMAN SWEETY:p

Men don't get pregnant. Women do. Men and women are DIFFERENT. It's NOT the same with women and men! :cool:

[Dragun]

A woman stated Monday on the air that her son was no good, and his daddy was no good. If his daddy was no good, then why were you with him? Right there is the problem. Women going to bed with losers and guys falling for everything in a skirt. Get to know each other first, and even better get married and THEN have the kids!

[grenetta b]

No, it starts with the MOTHER. If she's not intelligent enough to OBEY and SUBMIT to her husband, then she should keep her LEGS CLOSED! :)


IT TAKES TWO INDIVIDUAL THAT ARE BOTH WILLING TO SHARE THEIR LOVE TOGETHER AS ONE. AND THEY BOTH HAVE A HEART AND SOUL AND LOVE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP THEM BOTH SUBMITTED TO ONE ANOTHER.


NOT JUST THE WOMAN SUBMITTING TO HER HUSBAND NO ONE SIDED THING IN A MARRIAGE ITS 100 PERCENT ON BOTH PARTS THAT KEEP A FAMILY STRONG ANDD TOGETHER:p

[grenetta b]

Men don't get pregnant. Women do. Men and women are DIFFERENT. It's NOT the same with women and men! :cool:


A WOMAN CAN'T GET PREGNANT UNLESS THE MAN PLANTS THE SEED INSIDE HER SO IT STARTS WITH YOU MAN:p

[Blackman7]

A woman stated Monday on the air that her son was no good, and his daddy was no good. If his daddy was no good, then why were you with him? Right there is the problem. Women going to bed with losers and guys falling for everything in a skirt. Get to know each other first, and even better get married and THEN have the kids!

Bad women are made for BAD men and GOOD women are made for GOOD men.
The Virgin Mary was made for Joseph the Carpenter and Bonnie Parker for Bonnie and Clyde. :cool:

[Blackman7]

IT TAKES TWO INDIVIDUAL THAT ARE BOTH WILLING TO SHARE THEIR LOVE TOGETHER AS ONE. AND THEY BOTH HAVE A HEART AND SOUL AND LOVE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP THEM BOTH SUBMITTED TO ONE ANOTHER.


NOT JUST THE WOMAN SUBMITTING TO HER HUSBAND NO ONE SIDED THING IN A MARRIAGE ITS 100 PERCENT ON BOTH PARTS THAT KEEP A FAMILY STRONG ANDD TOGETHER:p

Disobedient women generally give birth to DISOBEDIENT CHILDREN.

It's a NATURAL FACT that the apple don't fall far from the tree! (perhaps that's why there's so many young black men in jail).... :rolleyes:

[Blackman7]

A WOMAN CAN'T GET PREGNANT UNLESS THE MAN PLANTS THE SEED INSIDE HER SO IT STARTS WITH YOU MAN:p

No, she can get artificial insemenation. All she's gotta do is open her legs! :cool:

[grenetta b]

No, she can get artificial insemenation. All she's gotta do is open her legs! :cool:


WERE YOU ARTIFICIALLY INSEMENATED SWEETY NO I DON'T THINK SO. SO ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT ALL WOMEN HAVE A 360 DEGREE PROBLEM BETWEEN THEIR LEGS:eek: :confused:

[Blackman7]

Yup! That hole is a FULL CIRCLE...360 degrees! LOL :D :) :cool:

[Blackman7]

Of course, i'm only joking luv. Some of those "kitty kats" are attached to a brain! ;)

[grenetta b]

Of course, i'm only joking luv. Some of those "kitty kats" are attached to a brain! ;)



CAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO SEND THE CRAZY VAN FOR YOU:D :D :D :p

[filmoredollar]

A woman stated Monday on the air that her son was no good, and his daddy was no good. If his daddy was no good, then why were you with him? Right there is the problem. Women going to bed with losers and guys falling for everything in a skirt. Get to know each other first, and even better get married and THEN have the kids!

Why don't we been honest. We as human beings like to have sex. Nothing wrong with that but, too many ladies don't take their pills and lord knows that men do not like condems. Most of us were an unwanted product of a night of lust that is later regretted. Yes... this means you too. That's why daddy looks at you like that:D :cool:

[grenetta b]

Why don't we been honest. We as human beings like to have sex. Nothing wrong with that but, too many ladies don't take their pills and lord knows that men do not like condems. Most of us were an unwanted product of a night of lust that is later regretted. Yes... this means you too. That's why daddy looks at you like that:D :cool:



I AM PRODUCT OF LUST AND PASSION THAT TURNED TO MARRIAGE AND PROUD OF IT.:) :D :D BUT IT DIDN'T KEEP DADDY HOME LOOKING AT ME:p

[Blackman7]

CAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO SEND THE CRAZY VAN FOR YOU:D :D :D :p

Ain't nothin' "crazy" about loving beautiful black women, but if they don't have WIFE POTENTIAL(submissive and obedient), then tell THEM to stay in the van! :D ;)

[grenetta b]

Ain't nothin' "crazy" about loving beautiful black women, but if they don't have WIFE POTENTIAL(submissive and obedient), then tell THEM to stay in the van! :D ;)


IM OFF TO WORK GOOD NITE CRAZY MAN :D :D :D

[ssjup81]

Why don't we been honest. We as human beings like to have sex. Nothing wrong with that but, too many ladies don't take their pills and lord knows that men do not like condems.Why don't men just get vasectomies? Seriously, if a guy genuinely doesn't want a child in his life at the moment, he can get one and then get it reversed once he's ready to have them. It's easier for a man to get this type of a procedure compared to a woman, especially since women aren't allowed to get their tubes tied unless they've had at least one child already by most insurance companies, it seems. Most of us were an unwanted product of a night of lust that is later regretted. Yes... this means you too. That's why daddy looks at you like that:D :cool:Interesting, my mother said that I wasn't "unwanted", that I was a surprise and a gift from god. My parents had already been together five years before she got pregnant with me and were planning on getting married anyway. Funny how she was pregnant at the time that she got married...like a two or three weeks. I always joke about that..."So, you were married in late February since you guys had to do the nine-day waiting thing for your license due to its being New York and I was born in early October..." [I was originally due mid-October]. She'd then laugh.

Anywho, she said that she used to use the counting method...that one time didn't work, she said, which she said meant, "God's saying it's time for me to have a child." lol Of course she got into that story this past weekend, again, since it was my birthday.

[Blackman7]

I AM PRODUCT OF LUST AND PASSION THAT TURNED TO MARRIAGE AND PROUD OF IT.:) :D :D BUT IT DIDN'T KEEP DADDY HOME LOOKING AT ME:p

I'm sure that MANY black fathers who weren't in the home still loved their children.

A man who doesn't love his kids, doesn't love himself.

It's HARD for a man to love himself, when all his life he's been taught that he's "just a n*gger".

Oftentimes the fathers couldn't be there, which conflicted with the love they felt inside.

[filmoredollar]

I'm sure that MANY black fathers who weren't in the home still loved their children.

A man who doesn't love his kids, doesn't love himself.

It's HARD for a man to love himself, when all his life he's been taught that he's "just a n*gger".

Oftentimes the fathers couldn't be there, which conflicted with the love they felt inside.

Your right, but alot of women I know wouldn't buy that for a second.

[ssjup81]

Your right, but alot of women I know wouldn't buy that for a second.Yeah, I doubt many would. The men help to make the babies and then leave the family because he didn't want to do the responsible thing and help to care for them...nope, I couldn't see how a man could love his children if he did this, unless he comes to regret the choice, then yeah.

[Blackman7]

IM OFF TO WORK GOOD NITE CRAZY MAN :D :D :D

Goodnite sis! Don't work too hard! ;) :D :p :)

[filmoredollar]

Why don't men just get vasectomies?

We're all adults here right? Honestly men a. like to get they're rocks off and b. don't want there equipment tampered with.

Interesting, my mother said that I wasn't "unwanted", that I was a surprise and a gift from god. My parents had already been together five years before she got pregnant with me and were planning on getting married anyway. Funny how she was pregnant at the time that she got married...like a two or three weeks. I always joke about that..."So, you were married in late February since you guys had to do the nine-day waiting thing for your license due to its being New York and I was born in early October..." [I was originally due mid-October]. She'd then laugh.

Anywho, she said that she used to use the counting method...that one time didn't work, she said, which she said meant, "God's saying it's time for me to have a child." lol Of course she got into that story this past weekend, again, since it was my birthday.

Yeah, that is funny. Fuzzy math is why alot of us are here :D

[ssjup81]

We're all adults here right? Honestly men a. like to get they're rocks off and b. don't want there equipment tampered with.But it's bad that some men get women pregnant, and then don't want to help take care of the child after the woman births the child. If these men really didn't want a child and don't like using a condom, then they should just suck it up and get the procedure done. The pill isn't always guaranteed to work, and there are probably less dangerous side effects for a man to get a vasectomy than it is for a woman to take birth control pills. Then again, any woman who has sex with a guy who doesn't use a condom or refuses to use one, should be dumped right then and there and if she doesn't, then she's just stupid. Yeah, that is funny. Fuzzy math is why alot of us are here :DOh but of course. :D :p

[filmoredollar]

But it's bad that some men get women pregnant, and then don't want to help take care of the child after the woman births the child. If these men really didn't want a child and don't like using a condom, then they should just suck it up and get the procedure done. The pill isn't always guaranteed to work, and there are probably less dangerous side effects for a man to get a vasectomy than it is for a woman to take birth control pills. Then again, any woman who has sex with a guy who doesn't use a condom or refuses to use one, should be dumped right then and there and if she doesn't, then she's just stupid.Oh but of course. :D :p

Women don't do that because women don't like condems either. And from what i understand alot of women don't like birth control either. Women are just as copable. A man has to plant the seed but the women also has to let them. It is a stupid a selfish gamble with ones life is what it is.

I have a question and this is not fact but soley based on my own expierence. Is it possible that women who have put themselves in these positions then damanding to much of this guy as a father and then becoming disillusioned when this prince turns out to be just another wet kid. Which is what you get when you lay with people based on a night at the club vs. an actual relationship? For instance what makes a women think that a man who didn't have a job when they met AND SLEPT WITH THEM is going to all of a sudden be a company man overnight. My cousin was lazy before he had two kids and Mr. Unemplyment As I refer to him doesn't work now. When ladies figure this out and they are pulling more weight than they should some of them must be getting angry and saying "you can't see your baby, cause you don't support your baby". I ask because I can't just see all of these men running away. Is there any possibility that women become bitter when they figured out that the reality is not as fun or enjoyable as the fantasy and use the baby to get even?

[mikelarry]

We will have to start with the small kids, the minds are young and ready for good data,I will have to agree that we have lost a big portion of our young men, but we had a lot to do with that. Just think for a minute, we set back and watched a generation,of gang wars, hate among our communities, demeaning rap lyrics, a corrupt justice system and the list goes on,we did nothing,but all is not lost,we have our kid's, our children, and grandchildren, they won't let us down, if we start now teaching and instructing them, we can turn this thing around, that's our solution. We will have to start living through them, they see what we see,here what we here,think what we teach, learn them how to avoid were we failed, last but not least,teach them to love themselves,and they'll be fine.


America Has Lost A Generation Of Black Boys

By Phillip Jackson
Executive Director of the Black Star Project
Chicago, IL
blackstar1000@ameritech.net

There is no longer a need for dire predictions, hand-wringing, or
apprehension about losing a generation of black boys. It is too late. In
education, employment, economics, incarceration, health, housing, and
parenting, we have lost a generation of young black men. The question
that remains is will we lose the next two or three generations, or
possibly every generation of black boys hereafter to the streets,
negative media, gangs, drugs, poor education, unemployment, father
absence, crime, violence and death.

Most young black men in the United States don't graduate from high
school. Only 35% of black male students graduated from high school in
Chicago and only 26% in New York City, according to a 2006 report by
The Schott Foundation for Public Education. Only a few black boys who
finish high school actually attend college, and of those few black boys
who enter college, nationally, only 22% of them finish college.

Young black male students have the worst grades, the lowest test scores,
and the highest dropout rates of all students in the country. When these
young black men don't succeed in school, they are much more likely to
succeed in the nation's criminal justice and penitentiary system. And it
was discovered recently that even when a young black man graduates from
a U.S. college, there is a good chance that he is from Africa, the
Caribbean or Europe, and not the United States.

Black men in prison in America have become as American as apple pie.
There are more black men in prisons and jails in the United States
(about 1.1 million) than there are black men incarcerated in the rest of
the world combined. This criminalization process now starts in
elementary schools with black male children as young as six and seven
years old being arrested in staggering numbers according to a 2005
report, Education on Lockdown by the Advancement Project.

The rest of the world is watching and following the lead of America.
Other countries including England, Canada, Jamaica, Brazil and South
Africa are adopting American social policies that encourage the
incarceration and destruction of young black men. This is leading to a
world-wide catastrophe. But still, there is no adequate response from
the American or global black community.

Worst of all is the passivity, neglect and disengagement of the black
community concerning the future of our black boys. We do little while
the future lives of black boys are being destroyed in record numbers.
The schools that black boys attend prepare them with skills that will
make them obsolete before, and if, they graduate. In a strange and
perverse way, the black community, its elf, has started to w age a kind
of war against young black men and has become part of this destructive
process.

Who are young black women going to marry? Who is going to build and
maintain the economies of black communities? Who is going to anchor
strong families in the black community? Who will young black boys
emulate as they grow into men? Where is the outrage of the black
community at the destruction of its black boys? Where are the plans and
the supportive actions to change this? Is this the beginning of the end
of the black people in America ?

The list of those who have failed young black men includes our
government, our foundations, our schools, our media, our black churches,
our black leaders, and even our parents. Ironical ly, experts say that
the solutions to the problems of young black men are simple and
relatively inexpensive, but they may not be easy, practical or popular.
It is not that we lack solutions as much as it is that we lack the will
to implement these solutions to save black boys. It seems that
government is willing to pay billions of dollars to lock up young black
men, rather than the millions it would take to prepare them to become
viable contributors and valued members of our society.

Please consider these simple goals that can lead to solutions for fixing
the problems of young black men:

Short term
1) Teach all black boys to read at grade level by the third grade and to
embrace education.
2) Provide positive role models for black boys.
3) Create a stable home environment for black boys that includes contact
with their fathers.
4) Ensure that black boys have a strong spiritual base.
5) Control the negative media influences on black boys.
6) Teach black boys to respect all girls and women.

Long term
1) Invest as much money in educating black boys as in locking up black
men.
2) Help connect black boys to a positive vision of themselves in the
future.
3) Create high expectations and help black boys live into those high
expectations.
4) Build a positive peer culture for black boys.
5) Teach black boys self-discipline, culture and history.
6) Teach black boys and the communities in which they live to embrace
education and life-long learning.

[Blackman7]

Kids need DISCIPLINE, but to INSURE corruption, confusion, and antisocial behavior, the WHITE MAN has made it ILLEGAL to WHIP YOUR OWN KIDS!!!!

[Blackman7]

Your right, but alot of women I know wouldn't buy that for a second.

Hence the saying, "Women have short brains and long hair!" :D :cool: :confused::eek: :)

[free7480]

Just think for a minute, we set back and watched a generation,of gang wars, hate among our communities, demeaning rap lyrics, a corrupt justice system and the list goes on,we did nothing,but all is not lost,we have our kid's, our children, and grandchildren, they won't let us down, if we start now teaching and instructing them, we can turn this thing around, that's our solution. We will have to start living through them, they see what we see,here what we here,think what we teach, learn them how to avoid were we failed,

you make a great point. except please remember "art imitates life" rap and hip-hop's "demeaning lyrics" are a direct result of life for these people. maybe the solution is in the reverse. chip away at the huge wall of making life better and watch the madness dissolve. being combative against a whole generation wont work. I am 27 and it makes me want to scream everytime I hear the hiphop generation being attacked. ART should not have raised todays kids. you are living in the result. here is a start ;stop spending black money in places it does not belong. teach black is beautiful staring with our hair. allow others to disipline your kids. TURN off the TV. so not give in to sony and xbox for video games. do not buy them! play games at home. eat together. pray to gether! now these things cost NOTHING but are worth EVERYthing.
peace and blessings
-free

[Blackman7]

Yeah, I doubt many would. The men help to make the babies and then leave the family because he didn't want to do the responsible thing and help to care for them...nope, I couldn't see how a man could love his children if he did this, unless he comes to regret the choice, then yeah.

What O.J Simpson did to his adulteress wife and her potential lover is indicative of what can happen when a man's baby mama works AGAINST him. Rather than resorting to VIOLENCE, it's wiser for a man to wash his hands of the WHOLE SITUATION. Instead of letting her provoke him to VIOLENCE, it's better for the man to stay away from his kids. (even though it breaks his heart)

If O.J Simpson had stayed away from his kids, perhaps those murders would have never happened. Men abandon their children for MANY reasons...not just "irresponsibility".

I have heard of MANY "crimes of passion" that probably never would have happened if the men stayed away from their kids and their foolish babies mothers.

To "capture" a man, Satan often gets him through the people he loves.

[Blackman7]

The D.C Sniper, John Muhammad, is another example of Satan "capturing" a man through his loved ones. Reports said that he was mad with his ex-wife, because she kept him from seeing his kids.

As I stated earlier, wise men know that the devil often uses a man's love for his family to trap him. If his children's mother is his ENEMY(works against him), it might be best to stay away from his kids.

[Blackman7]

If America Has Lost A Generation of Black Boys, what is the SOLUTION, you might ask.

There IS no solution, but the WISE will seek the Almighty God!

(the words of Jesus Christ)

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Whether the EARTHLY father is in the home or not, we STILL have our HEAVENLY FATHER.

Don't be dismayed, the Almighty God is in control! :)

[Blackman7]

(the words of Jesus Christ)

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

And what does the WHITE MAN do? Write a SONG about "Peace on earth" and "good will to men."

For some reason the WHITE MAN CONTINUALLY goes AGAINST GOD! :rolleyes:

[sq357]

The D.C Sniper, John Muhammad, is another example of Satan "capturing" a man through his loved ones. Reports said that he was mad with his ex-wife, because she kept him from seeing his kids.

As I stated earlier, wise men know that the devil often uses a man's love for his family to trap him. If his children's mother is his ENEMY(works against him), it might be best to stay away from his kids.
It may be an issue--but I hope we not making an excuse. I'm sure the DC sniper failed in other areas before he acted out. We need to stop making excuses for failure.

[sq357]

And what does the WHITE MAN do? Write a SONG about "Peace on earth" and "good will to men."

For some reason the WHITE MAN CONTINUALLY goes AGAINST GOD! :rolleyes:
It seems we are no better off! It seems we justify our crupt behavior by identifing the faults of others.

[Blackman7]

It may be an issue--but I hope we not making an excuse. I'm sure the DC sniper failed in other areas before he acted out. We need to stop making excuses for failure.

That's why I said "WISE men know that the devil often uses a man's love for his family to trap him". John Muhammad obviously wasn't wise, which is why he did what he did.

[Blackman7]

It seems we are no better off! It seems we justify our crupt behavior by identifing the faults of others.

Everything that blacks do wrong in this country, they learned from the white man.

The MASTER influences the SLAVE.

[sq357]

If America Has Lost A Generation of Black Boys, what is the SOLUTION, you might ask.

There IS no solution, but the WISE will seek the Almighty God!

(the words of Jesus Christ)

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Whether the EARTHLY father is in the home or not, we STILL have our HEAVENLY FATHER.

Don't be dismayed, the Almighty God is in control! :)
Are you saying the condition of the black family is fulfillment of prophecy? Is this ordain by I AM, that I AM?

[sq357]

Everything that blacks do wrong in this country, they learned from the white man.

The MASTER influences the SLAVE.
O.K., I concur that the white man has trampled everything he has touch--Native Americans, Hawiians, Blacks--

[Blackman7]

Are you saying the condition of the black family is fulfillment of prophecy? Is this ordain by I AM, that I AM?

I can only quote the scriptures and tell you what Jesus said. In no way am I qualified to speak for God.

[Blackman7]

O.K., I concur that the white man has trampled everything he has touch--Native Americans, Hawiians, Blacks--

It takes INTELLIGENCE to see that. You are a wise person. :)

[SirNoseDevo]

Hold up dont say all attorneys work for the court

PEOPLE DONT KNOW THE SYSTEM and they use that as an excuse. My lawyer is this my public defender is that, they lost my case, they work for the government. I am not saying that all, some people are there because they care. I care about what I do and all the attorneys WHITE and BLACK that work in my office care about our clients and we go to bat for them all the way. But lets be real. If people wasnt out there committing crimes they wouldnt have to worry about the CJ system. Mike said he got parents and people coming up to him talking about "he hit her over the head but he didnt mean to kill her" Come on. Mike said it the best a couple of weeks ago the system is NOT FOR BLACKS MEN OR WOMEN so dont get caught up in the system in the first place. Because you know what you might have to take a plea deal instead of going to trial but if you wouldnt have committed the crime then you wouldnt have to worry about it.

Now I am talking about everybody because I know people are in prison and they are innocent but I dont know a lot of people who are in prison and thats where they should be for the rest of their lives.

Like I said ALL court appointed Lawyers work for the court system,
and I know it from personal experience by monitoring cases.
The name of the game is by law any individual has the rights to be
represented by a lawyer regardless to their income. This is where
the Public Defender's office make its money by handling court issues,
and most Court Appointed lawyers will say.....If you plead guilty to
the charges the Judge will see that you will get a break.

Hell....Right there is the bargain (if you plead guilty). That means
to plead guilty regardless to if one is guilty or not for a lighter
sentence or probation. Like you said yourself people are in jail and
they are innocent. But the bottomline is most refused to take the
plead causing a new direction in the case that the Lawyer thought
that he or she could brainwash someone in helping them to make
easy money.

However, After many law suits the State's Attorney General's office
require that all defenders must be represented regardless to their
income. Myself...I would not trust No legal Aid or Public Defenders
Lawyer to represent any of my clients. I would organize a legal
defense fund-raiser before I have a Court Appointed Lawyer on any
case that I am involved in.

Your Office???.....Look fighting in a court room is the biggest bull
s****ing legal game there is. Lawyers be going at each others
throat in the courtroom, and after court they be hanging out at
bars drinking and laughing together. So this is why the Justice
system can't be trusted

DJ, this statement of yours.....But lets be real. If people wasnt out
there committing crimes they wouldnt have to worry about the CJ
system.....isn't for real at all. How can you say if people wasn't
out there committing crimes? There is people who haven't did a crime,
and they still get caught up in the Justice system.

So our Black young Brothers & Sisters is no more lost then the now
generation of White Boys & Girls.

[brdavis637]

As a mother of two young black teenage males it is absolutely heart breaking to see the obstacles place before them. I don't understand how an entire society can prejudge our young men. My youngest son who is 17 years of age was arrested at school because he had an argument with another student which happens to be close his close friend of many years. They were both arrested and charged with disorderly conduct. It should be mandatory that resource officers receive training on how to deal with kids. Kids should not be treated as if they are criminals there is a difference in breaking the rule and breaking the law. I must question the officers decision to arrest these to young men was that the only resolution he could come up with. Would the outcome be different if these were two white teens? Would the parents have been called or would they have been arrested and taken to jail. These are the questions I asked the officer and he could not give me a response.

[sq357]

It takes INTELLIGENCE to see that. You are a wise person. :)
Acknowledging the role that our pale skin brother has played--we must recognize that it's time to abandon the shackles within our minds and rise above the prevailing condition of our current state.

We must! We MUST as a people--hold each other accountable! Our government has shown on so many occassion their unwillingness to respond to our social and national emergencies. Therefore we must learn, like so many who came before use...how to pick ourselves up--dust ourselves off.

Further, we can not get angry when someone addresses the disabling problems in our community.

[Mahogany Love]

About you guys but I'm not buying into the negativity in this statement. Heck when my brother & cousins were coming up we thought we lost a generation of black boys because of this & that BUT there are parents like myself that you haven't met YET and therefore you haven't met my child and he sure is far from being lost. That is sad but true that people can have the nerve to make a statement like this. WELL I'm not buying into that CRAZINESS just because there are some that doesn't mean ALL! IT IS AN INSULT!

Always: Love, Peace & Harmony all over the world

[sq357]

About you guys but I'm not buying into the negativity in this statement. Heck when my brother & cousins were coming up we thought we lost a generation of black boys because of this & that BUT there are parents like myself that you haven't met YET and therefore you haven't met my child and he sure is far from being lost. That is sad but true that people can have the nerve to make a statement like this. WELL I'm not buying into that CRAZINESS just because there are some that doesn't mean ALL! IT IS AN INSULT!

Always: Love, Peace & Harmony all over the world
Hello Ms Mahogany Love...I'm sure the authors did not have you specifically in mind. But I do agree that there are a number of stable families--providing and fostering a positive enviornment. Like yourself--keep it up.

The issue that I have with the author's question--is he/she is not making a connection with the failure of the Lead generation, the generation that blew the deal after the civil rights era--the one who crys victim everytime someone whats to March.

Keep doing the right thing as the world prepare to see your child make his mark in America--God bless.

[KevLove35]

Acknowledging the role that our pale skin brother has played--we must recognize that it's time to abandon the shackles within our minds and rise above the prevailing condition of our current state.

We must! We MUST as a people--hold each other accountable! Our government has shown on so many occassion their unwillingness to respond to our social and national emergencies. Therefore we must learn, like so many who came before use...how to pick ourselves up--dust ourselves off.

Further, we can not get angry when someone addresses the disabling problems in our community.

An excellent Post , sq357 . :cool:

[ail2006]

I sadly agree that our young black men are having trouble progressing in life. I work at a barbershop in Uptown New Orleans, and everyday there is a person strung out on crack walking by. Everyday there is a young black man walking through the barbershop doors without a job or education. When I try to encourage them, their responses are all the same, "I'm not smart enought", "No one cares", "All the police wanna do is lock us up, we ain't got no chance out here." It's sad but they believe this to be a fact. I've decided to post poster boards around the shop letting them know about certain ways they can overcome this generational curse. Instead of using words, I decided to use pictures. Most are illiterate and feel discouraged when asked to read. I just hope and pray that what I am choosing to do works, because these are the men of my generation, and I refuse to have us being called GENERATION X when there is something I can do about it.

[QBee28]

Thank you for this vitial information. We do not need to loose anymore of or young men to this system.

[Mahogany Love]

I am not sure if people realize making comments like this effect our children that are listening and reading. They can say "Well they say we are lost I guess there is nothing we can do but continue to be lost." That's why I don't have cable, that's why we have an OPEN door policy we talk about EVERYTHING. I'm not going to let these sort of comments BRAINWASH my babies! Because that is what in a sense they are doing. They WON'T read any further than the DARN title.

Hello Ms Mahogany Love...I'm sure the authors did not have you specifically in mind. But I do agree that there are a number of stable families--providing and fostering a positive enviornment. Like yourself--keep it up.

The issue that I have with the author's question--is he/she is not making a connection with the failure of the Lead generation, the generation that blew the deal after the civil rights era--the one who crys victim everytime someone whats to March.

Keep doing the right thing as the world prepare to see your child make his mark in America--God bless.

[SirNoseDevo]

Acknowledging the role of our pale skin brother?

Please explain to me WHO is OUR pale skin Brothers? Or was that
a tryed to be funny statement? I have never seen a pale skinned
Black man unless he had some albino white blood in him, and then
even at that he's not MY pale skinned Brother.

First of all true Brothers may have an dis-agreement every once in
a while, but they will make it their business to patch things up, and
its sad to see a Black Brother turn againsted another Black Brother.

Black on Black crime isn't cool at all, but we have been so brain
damaged by outsiders until we are blinded by the almighty $$$$,
and America has not losted a generation of Black young men
they are missing from the real world.

Brothers who is from the real old school era need to step up to
become a Big Brother with a Father image, and what I meant by
the Father image is to become someone that can be looked up to
and able to communicate with.

Sir Nose Devo of Funk

[Blackman7]

If America has indeed, lost a generation of black boys, then behind it all must be the Prince of this world, SATAN. The bible says that Jesus told his fisherman disciples to join him and "fish for mens souls". Well, the DEVIL likewise, fishes for the souls of men. "How", you might ask, does Satan fish for mens souls?" He fishes for their souls just like a fisherman. He baits his hook with something that the man DESIRES,(money, drugs, women, power, cars, fame, family, e.t.c)lets him become ATTACHED to it, and reels him in!

The less a man desires, the less that Satan can control him. As far as earthly wealth and power, Satan controls EVERYTHING. He can make you HAPPY when he GIVES it to you, and make you SAD by taking it away.

He thus, CONTROLS YOUR EMOTIONS, by using MATERIAL THANGS.

[sq357]

Please explain to me WHO is OUR pale skin Brothers? Or was that
a tryed to be funny statement? I have never seen a pale skinned
Black man unless he had some albino white blood in him, and then
even at that he's not MY pale skinned Brother.

First of all true Brothers may have an dis-agreement every once in
a while, but they will make it their business to patch things up, and
its sad to see a Black Brother turn againsted another Black Brother.

Black on Black crime isn't cool at all, but we have been so brain
damaged by outsiders until we are blinded by the almighty $$$$,
and America has not losted a generation of Black young men
they are missing from the real world.

Brothers who is from the real old school era need to step up to
become a Big Brother with a Father image, and what I meant by
the Father image is to become someone that can be looked up to
and able to communicate with.

Sir Nose Devo of Funk
First, Look up the word pale, my Friend! Second, look at pervious post references subject matter! Lastly, try to learn instead of teach--you may be surprised who is schooling you.

[Blackman7]

If America has indeed, lost a generation of black boys, then behind it all must be the Prince of this world, SATAN. The bible says that Jesus told his fisherman disciples to join him and "fish for mens souls". Well, the DEVIL likewise, fishes for the souls of men. "How", you might ask, does Satan fish for mens souls?" He fishes for their souls just like a fisherman. He baits his hook with something that the man DESIRES,(money, drugs, women, power, cars, fame, family, e.t.c)lets him become ATTACHED to it, and reels him in!

The less a man desires, the less that Satan can control him. As far as earthly wealth and power, Satan controls EVERYTHING. He can make you HAPPY when he GIVES it to you, and make you SAD by taking it away.

He thus, CONTROLS YOUR EMOTIONS, by using MATERIAL THANGS.

Black boys need to become aware of how Satan baits his hook. Fish that are AWARE are the HARDEST fish to catch! :)

[Blackman7]

Just about every brotha in prison is there because of something that he DESIRED. (money, drugs, women, power, cars, family, e.t.c) That's the "bait" that Satan puts on his hook! :cool:

[Blackman7]

Satan used Nicole for bait when he wanted to trap O.J and look at what happened. The devil can even put FAMILY MEMBERS on his hook!

Being a BLACK man in a RACIST COUNTRY, we must always be watchful amd aware. Like Sweet sweetback...Satan has had his eye on many of us from birth!

[Blackman7]

Look at how young Nate Abraham was when he shot and killed 18 year old, Ronnie Green! Nate was just 12 YEARS OLD!

I ain't LYIN' when I tell you that the devil has had his eye on many black kids from birth!

[Eyeswideopen]

Why dont we speak or write the truth? The blackman since the end of civil right movement left the black family household and never look back except in child support court or not at all.

Give me a break, blackmen or blackwomen have a choice...The libary are free. We have all type of choices these days. Noone is stopping us, blackman from getting educated. I hear negative things everyday about why the blackwomen is left raising her children alone...over 70% out of wedlock. The blackman choice was not to marry these women (at least half)..The abotion clinic would have to be opened 24 hours if we terminated our pregnancies...Who would you have left but a bunch of irresponsible men looking for there next trick...

Blackmen has lost a couple of generation, but would have happen if those 70% of those women chose not to give life..How many generation would have been destroyed?

Blackmen has drop the ball for over 40 years and now the chicken has came back to roost..We are in trouble because our family have been destroyed. In the morning while you are driving to work or to drop your children off to school, look to right and left...I dont see nothing but a brunch of women going to work, blackboys roaming the street with no place to go..and few men hanging out on street corner.............

In some of these news articles, in between the lines, it seems they (white conservative) blame is on us blackwomen. How we could not hold down our family? I know about the Wille lynch symdrome and you better believe it is happen in front of us.

The blackman was not strong enough and has been asleep or on mute for at least 40 years....Now that we can live, eat, or sleep next to enemy, it dont seem so good now...I am the first to admit it, the blackman is the blame for most of it problem...White man just sat back and observe because some of our people rather become their friends and risk a whole generation of black people to the street, jail, underemployed, or death...He is laughing...but you better believe I as Blackwoman has not given up yet I am wide awake.

[Dantez]

according to the DVD "What Black Men Think"
1.1 million brothers in jail just isn't true, can somebody clarify? where can you get the jail numbers from

[Blackman7]

I am the first to admit it, the blackman is the blame for most of it problem

Charles Manson's mom was a 16 year old prostitute and Ted Bundy was born in a home for unwed mothers.

Bad men generally come from bad women.

The apple don't fall far from the tree.

[Blackman7]

Why dont we speak or write the truth? The blackman since the end of civil right movement left the black family household and never look back except in child support court or not at all.

Three things drive a man from his house; smoke, rain, and a scolding wife.----English proverb

[Blackman7]

I hear negative things everyday about why the blackwomen is left raising her children alone...over 70% out of wedlock.

Because they're POOR JUDGES OF CHARACTER when it comes to MEN and can't keep their LEGS CLOSED??? :rolleyes: :cool:

What are they doing, having all those children out of wedlock, anyway???

Being unmarried, were they RAPED? Did the baby daddy put a gun to their head??? :rolleyes:

You talkin' about how "the black man doesn't take responsibility". What about the BLACK WOMAN??? Isn't SHE responsible for her own body, or is she a mindless automaton that whenever a man WANTS some, she just opens her legs???

[Blackman7]

No WONDER a generation of black boys are lost...

Look at their MOTHERS! Like a Mother duck leads her ducklings, the blind are LEADING the blind!

[Blackman7]

Take former Carolina Panthers football player, Rae Carruth, for example. I watched that entire trial on Court TV. Come to find out, he was born out of wedlock and it wasn't until he was a teenager that he learned that his mother's ex husband, Mr. Carruth, who he was NAMED AFTER, wasn't even his REAL FATHER. He was CONCIEVED in fornication and raised up on LIES.

Bad WOMEN generally give birth to BAD MEN!!!!

[Blackman7]

But again, I don't blame either black men or black women for their situation.

They are just the descendants of the white man's slaves.

Everything that blacks do WRONG in this country, they learned from the WHITE MAN.

The MASTER influences the SLAVE!

[sq357]

Because they're POOR JUDGES OF CHARACTER when it comes to MEN and can't keep their LEGS CLOSED??? :rolleyes: :cool:

What are they doing, having all those children out of wedlock, anyway???

Being unmarried, were they RAPED? Did the baby daddy put a gun to their head??? :rolleyes:

You talkin' about how "the black man doesn't take responsibility". What about the BLACK WOMAN??? Isn't SHE responsible for her own body, or is she a mindless automoton that whenever a man WANTS some, she just opens her legs???
Thanks brother--I am often critical of my own brothers when addressing the conditions within our community. But, some times we need to get on these sisters for some of the things they are doing (just craziness).

Ladies don't miss my point, famlies are a joint responsibilites and some men do neglect theirs. But, we got to be real and some of you are outside yo mind--with the things you do and are capable of doing.

Mr. Blackman, again--you articulated the facts in this matter with absolute perfection.

[Blackman7]

Thanks, and again, you're an intelligent person to recognize the facts. :)

[uncdec01]

Because they're POOR JUDGES OF CHARACTER when it comes to MEN and can't keep their LEGS CLOSED??? :rolleyes: :cool:

What are they doing, having all those children out of wedlock, anyway???

Being unmarried, were they RAPED? Did the baby daddy put a gun to their head??? :rolleyes:

You talkin' about how "the black man doesn't take responsibility". What about the BLACK WOMAN??? Isn't SHE responsible for her own body, or is she a mindless automoton that whenever a man WANTS some, she just opens her legs???

I agree too many women are having babies with men that they know are no good.They know this man has other babies he does not take care of, you are not even in a real committed relationship with him, he does not work, why the hell would you go and have two or three babies with him. It is insanity!! I use to work in social services and you would not believe the number of women who would come in not even knowing their babies daddy real name, they only know his nickname, sorry we can not serch for DT or pooky. How pathetic.

People always want to blame the men and view the women as the victim, but they fail to see the men are victims too. Why is no one concerned about why black men feel the only thing they have to offer a women is sex or money?????

[lavivian]

I agree with you totallly. I am a parent trying to make my son understand these same principles. It is hard to find a strong, positive role model.

[MrPrevention]

We all can continue to talk about who is at blame for this lost generation of...., but the fact of the matter, is until we look in the mirror and understand that they didn't get this way all by themselves. We as community activist,
leaders, professionals, politicians, mama,papa,grandmama, you get the picture,...you know,"It takes a whole village" concept, lets stop the blame game. The Willie Lynch Syndrone is still in affect, isn't it. Just keep them fighting amongst themselves...the crab mentality. Thats:D why I try and teach one...reach one of our kids in my OOPS!! program (an Ounce Of Prevention Services) all about Law Related Education,(information,education and therapy); referrals from the juvenile justice system, concerned parents, etc. mostly African-American males (9to17 age)

[deadlyvenomzus]

I know that the justice system isn't fair to black people, but I am not going to put all the blame on the system, parents need to start being parents, not friends. When I'm at work, I see a lot of these kids getting away with everything. My stepchildren quickly learned that talking back or any type of disrespect isn't going to fly with this former Marine. If these parents out here would stop trying to be friends with their children, the community might come out better.

And on another note, check this BS out at cnn.com
"It ain't easy being black!!!!"
NEW YORK (CNN) -- A rally Wednesday afternoon at Columbia University was held to protest the discovery of a noose on the office door of an African-American professor.


The noose was found Tuesday, hanging from a door at Columbia's Teachers College.

1 of 3 more photos » The noose was found Tuesday at Columbia's Teachers College, said Joe Levine, executive director for external affairs at Teachers College.

The New York Police Department is investigating the matter as a hate crime.

The apparent target, Madonna Constantine, 44, is a professor of psychology and education at Teachers College. She co-wrote the book "Addressing Racism: Facilitating Cultural Competence in Mental Health and Educational Settings."

Constantine issued a statement saying, "I am upset that the Teachers College community has been exposed to such an unbelievably vile incident, and I would like us to stay strong in the face of such a blatant act of racism.

"Hanging the noose on my office door reeks of cowardice and fear on many levels. I want the perpetrator to know that I will not be silenced."

The noose was discovered about 9:15 a.m. Tuesday by a colleague of Constantine. It appeared to have been placed on the door between 8 and 9:15 a.m., police said.

Security cameras monitor the entrance to the building, but there are none in the hallway where the noose was discovered, Levine added.

The building, which is open 24 hours a day, is accessible only to those with a Teachers College ID card or other credentials, he said.

No arrests have been made and no suspects have been identified, police said.

Reacting to the news, more than 150 undergraduates attended a meeting Tuesday night on campus, and more than 120 Teachers College students expressed outrage at a gathering in their dining hall as well, according to the student-run newspaper Columbia Spectator.

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University President Lee Bollinger denounced the incident in a statement sent out to the Columbia University community: "Tolerance and mutual respect are among the core values of our diverse community, and all of us must confront acts of hate whenever they occur within it. As I said last night, an attack on the dignity of any member of our community is an assault on all of us."

Teachers College President Susan Fuhrman said that she and the community "deplore this hateful act."

Wednesday's protest started around 2 p.m. A town hall meeting for professors, students and staff was set for 3:30 p.m. It was closed to the public.

Columbia has had a spate of bias-related incidents in recent years, but Levine said, "I've never seen anything like this here."

Student Liz Tortu said students received a university e-mail describing the incident. "I was just stunned," she said. "I would never think something like that would happen here. I was just very surprised and saddened also."

The student paper reported the noose's discovery came on the heels of several recent politically and racially charged events at Columbia, including the controversial visit of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

It also follows news reports of racial tensions in Jena, Louisiana, that attracted national attention. In the "Jena 6" case, white students in the small town hung nooses from a schoolyard tree after black students sat under it. Marchers last month protested how authorities handled the cases of six black teenagers accused of beating a white student at the same school, several weeks after the noose incident.

Constantine has been recognized for her work by the Society of Counseling Psychology and the Society of the Psychological Study of Ethnic Minority Issues, and she received an Outstanding Research Award from the American Counseling Association.


She is on the editorial boards of the Journal of Counseling Psychology, Journal of Multicultural Counseling and Development and Journal of Black Psychology.

Teachers College has more than 5,000 graduate students and 165 faculty members, according to school officials. E-mail to a friend

CNN's Allan Chernoff, Rob Frehse and Andrea Stout contributed to this report.

All About Racial Issues

[king24son]

Hey family i would like to stress the importance of finding ways to help our people. i would love to see more schools geared to uplifting our black children.

[SirNoseDevo]

First, Look up the word pale, my Friend! Second, look at pervious post references subject matter! Lastly, try to learn instead of teach--you may be surprised who is schooling you.

:eek: The only race that I would considered as pale is Whites. Plus,
I wouldn't be surprised at anything that's taking place in today's
society. That's why I asked that question, and another reason is
race relation topics usually become a defensive topic.

Just like this thread's subject America has losted a Generation of
Black Boys. This subject can be taken two ways as far as I am
concerned. (1): How can anyone say America has losted a generation
of Black Boys, due to the fact that White America isn't doing nothing
to help make a change, and we are losing them to drugs,alcohol, gun
battles and Black on Black crime.

What about America still allowing racism to be taught, and why do
whites worry about Black youth when they need to worry about their
own? (Secondly) It can be said that America has Losted a generation
of Black youth (Not Boys) to a messed up unfair Justice system, and
other problems that is faced on the day to day bases in the Black
communities.

Also there is some White Boys who don't have a clue to what's really
happening, due to the fact that IF they did this latest series of finding
nooses would not be taking place, and that's a sign of White parents
not teaching their children that race hate is wrong. Kids are growing
up learning about racism and hate from over hearing their parents
talk against Blacks.

Sir Nose Devo of Funk

[Just2Precious]

Four boys were arrested in Gretna, Va for throwing paper at one other boy who happens to be white. He went home and told his parents they went to the police station and reported it and a warrant was issued. The boys were charged and arrested for "Assault". Even after the teacher told confirmed that the boys were just playing around and that young man they threw paper was teasing and taunting the boys. The four boys still had to go to before the court and attempts to defend themselves against charges again that did relate to incident at all. At most I believed this matter should have been resolved in the school with the result ending with all the youth being placed in "In-School Detention" due to the fact that they all were being disruptive and evidently not adhering to the classroom's rules.

Now I ‘m no rocket scientist, but anyone tell me why I can figure this much out, but the parent who decided to take out a warrant and the magistrate or sheriff who issued it failed to come to the same conclusion.

I wonder if the races of the perpetrators and the quote “victim" was the same would the "Warrant for Assault" would have ever seen the light of day.

Now the youth went to court and the charges were thrown out by the Judge who had since enough to realize they were a waste of the courts time. What I believe also needs to occur is that the parent and the Sheriff's Office needs to be held accountable for wasting the court's time and the pain and suffering caused to not only the youth who were arrested because of such foolishness, but also the pain and suffering their parents endured regarding the fate of the children especially after what just occurred in Jena and many other places that has not been privy to media coverage.

The writing on the wall is clear, a race war like no other will arise out of this Unequal Justice, if we as a people,( Black, White, Red, Blue & Green) don't pull together and teach our children to respect others no matter what their skin looks like and that can be done by letting them see us do it.

We al need to stop talking the talk, we must walk the walk daily in our own lives.

Concerned citizen and parent

[LHutchenson]

We all can continue to talk about who is at blame for this lost generation of...., but the fact of the matter, is until we look in the mirror and understand that they didn't get this way all by themselves. We as community activist,
leaders, professionals, politicians, mama,papa,grandmama, you get the picture,...you know,"It takes a whole village" concept, lets stop the blame game. The Willie Lynch Syndrone is still in affect, isn't it. Just keep them fighting amongst themselves...the crab mentality. Thats:D why I try and teach one...reach one of our kids in my OOPS!! program (an Ounce Of Prevention Services) all about Law Related Education,(information,education and therapy); referrals from the juvenile justice system, concerned parents, etc. mostly African-American males (9to17 age)

Sounds like a great program. If you are in or plan to expand to the Nashville area, please send me a personal message. And this appeal is for ALL positive, social movements in the Nashville area.


Hey Family:
Regardless of who is to blame, we have all pretty much agreed that there is a problem in the black community. We all have expressed our views on it; now we have to continue to ACT with this pool of knowledge. I have asked the question before of whether or not we can FOLLOW effective leadership. If ego is an issue for you, please substitute the word FOLLOW with SUPPORT, but please do not abandon the true intent of the cause. In simply considering the strength of the arguments on all sides, it’s obvious that there are some ambitious leaders among the Family. Your name does not have to be Reverend Jesse Jackson, Reverend Al Sharpton, Tavis Smiley, Michael Baisden, Jeff Johnson, etc. for people to support what you are doing in your communities. Let’s stop wasting energy with all the focus on insignificant issues and start recruiting supporters for all respective movements.

[Jayplat]

This article really shouldn't come as a surprise. While other cultures band together and rise above negative influences, our culture seems to indulge the negativity and in some cases embrace it. I am a relatively young black male in America and am not invulnerable to the oppression of society, however, one has to make choices that will affect the long term quality of life. This generation was lost before they were conceived. As mothers and fathers got younger, these children were left to be raised by tired grandparents who were already fed up with their own children. The media has fantasized the very gutters of our lowest neighborhoods and we have allowed our children to consume this filth and wonder why these issues have come about. A child will produce what he/she has learned at home and the failure to teach the child what is right is teaching the child that anything they do is acceptable. My students can tell me everything that comes on on BET, MTV, HBO and ESPN but can't produce a simple homework assignment. The demoralization of our youth is a success, as a result of the joint effort by parents and their children to abide by their own rules. I understand low income, working two jobs, and the stress of life. But society shouldn't have to pay for the mistakes made at home. The system has learned to handle us as animals because some have behaved as such. People are weary of black males because some taught them to fear us. When one is judged we all are judged. Our youth are no longer aspiring to become great men or even modest ones but they would rather risk death to become the worst criminal on the streets. An honest days labor has been superceded by a quick buck and a quality education which we were all told would never decay has been corrupted with literature spewed through a microphone. I realized for certain how badly our black society was stricken with the diseases of neglect, laziness and immorality when I tried to motivated one of my students who came from the ghetto to become a doctor and he looked me square in the eye with contempt and told me "I don't wanna be a doctor I'd rather be a rapper or a football player." Parents ought to reinforce and keep in the forefront of their children's mind the importance of rising above all others. Education should be pushed everyday and college should be realistic goal. If all the twenty to twenty-six inch rims were traded in we could afford that college education. I watched my father sacrifice for his two sons for years working a minimum wage job to provide for his family. I watched him break his back to put me through school so that I could have a better life than he did. If some of our families would take the approach that all else can wait until my child has become a positive product in society then we would have already reached the stars. Family we have allowed ourselves to sink this deep. We can blame this country all we want but we won't get back those 400 years. The question is "what will we accomplish in the next 4 generations?" We have created a wound in ourselves that is so deep and has festered so long that the prognosis of recovery is slim. But, I do believe we are a special people and when we band together for good, no negative influence can overcome us.

[Jayplat]

This article really shouldn't come as a surprise. While other cultures band together and rise above negative influences, our culture seems to indulge the negativity and in some cases embrace it. I am a relatively young black male in America and am not invulnerable to the oppression of society, however, one has to make choices that will affect the long term quality of life. This generation was lost before they were conceived. As mothers and fathers got younger, these children were left to be raised by tired grandparents who were already fed up with their own children. The media has fantasized the very gutters of our lowest neighborhoods and we have allowed our children to consume this filth and wonder why these issues have come about. A child will produce what he/she has learned at home and the failure to teach the child what is right is teaching the child that anything they do is acceptable. My students can tell me everything that comes on on BET, MTV, HBO and ESPN but can't produce a simple homework assignment. The demoralization of our youth is a success, as a result of the joint effort by parents and their children to abide by their own rules. I understand low income, working two jobs, and the stress of life. But society shouldn't have to pay for the mistakes made at home. The system has learned to handle us as animals because some have behaved as such. People are weary of black males because some taught them to fear us. When one is judged we all are judged. Our youth are no longer aspiring to become great men or even modest ones but they would rather risk death to become the worst criminal on the streets. An honest days labor has been superceded by a quick buck and a quality education which we were all told would never decay has been corrupted with literature spewed through a microphone. I realized for certain how badly our black society was stricken with the diseases of neglect, laziness and immorality when I tried to motivated one of my students who came from the ghetto to become a doctor and he looked me square in the eye with contempt and told me "I don't wanna be a doctor I'd rather be a rapper or a football player." Parents ought to reinforce and keep in the forefront of their children's mind the importance of rising above all others. Education should be pushed everyday and college should be realistic goal. If all the twenty to twenty-six inch rims were traded in we could afford that college education. I watched my father sacrifice for his two sons for years working a minimum wage job to provide for his family. I watched him break his back to put me through school so that I could have a better life than he did. If some of our families would take the approach that all else can wait until my child has become a positive product in society then we would have already reached the stars. Family we have allowed ourselves to sink this deep. We can blame this country all we want but we won't get back those 400 years. The question is "what will we accomplish in the next 4 generations?" We have created a wound in ourselves that is so deep and has festered so long that the prognosis of recovery is slim. But, I do believe we are a special people and when we band together for good, no negative influence can overcome us.

[SirNoseDevo]

People are weary of black males because some taught them to fear us

Jay I am not understanding your above quote. The question is who was
taught to fear who? and who is us? I do not see why anyone should
fear anybody if they have always respected, and treated a person right
(especially white people).

Fear is a guilt feeling that comes from mistreatment of Blacks years ago,
and now that Blacks are realizing that we must take a stand by fighting
back we are now classified as being a dangerous race.

There's one thing for sure our Black young Brothers & Sisters do not
have role models to follow behind or to be examples. Most Blacks was
raised in proverty, and over the years things that we did not have the
white man showed us how to sell drugs,kill each other plus commit
Black on Black crimes.

As being from the 1960's old school myself. I admire any young Brother
or Sister who have avoided the street game, and is currently attending
school learning. In closing,there is no such thing as a losted generation
of Black Boys, and I believe that there's more confused white boys then
it ever will be young Black Brothers losted.

Originally Posted by MrPrevention
We all can continue to talk about who is at blame for
lost generation of...., but the fact of the matter, is until
we look in the mirror and understand that they didn't get this way all by themselves. We as community activist, leaders, professionals, politicians, mama,papa,grandmama, you get the picture,...you know,"It takes a whole village" concept, lets stop the blame game

I totally agree 200% Mr Prevention, and regardless to the struggle
that we're in we need to take a personal invertory of our own lifes,
and then once we get our s**t together we can help others.

[lonsom1]

I have an 18 yr. old boy who thinks he knows everything. I preached as much as I could about this society how he is just prey in this jungle of white hunters for whatever they see fit for him too either succeed or fail, meaning there are good white element, such as the sports side who will use him for their own personal gain and their is the justice system just waiting for him to place that ex-felon label for life on him. So far he's chosen the former but his attitude is so bad I actually fear for his life. He knows everything. I take my share of the blame but he will not listen to a positive message. So what do you do in a case like that? I really do need answers

[Jayplat]

"Fear is a guilt feeling that comes from mistreatment of Blacks years ago,
and now that Blacks are realizing that we must take a stand by fighting
back we are now classified as being a dangerous race."

I agree with you to an extent SIRNOSEDEVO. Understand my point. We are to some extent responsible for the degradation of our current circumstance. When I enter the halls of our public schools, hope is all but lost. I will agree with you that our youth, both male and female need positive role models to follow. I will agree with you that whites including our government, perpetuated the drug trafficking, drug related violence and black on black crime. They may have taught blacks to do all these things but no one forces them to continue. No one is excusing the atrocities done over the years to our community but when do we take stock of ourselves and make the proper changes?

The fear felt by others does come from guilt but our actions have also helped to fuel the weariness of others. This is beyond a white and black issue. I will agree that the cards are stacked against us but it doesn't mean we have to succomb to the pressures placed on our backs. We can say that we are oppressed by whites and others but when I walk into an all black school with a staff that reflects the demographics and proper funding is in place and yet our kids still want and yearn for nothingness then we have to rethink our grievances. When people of color begin to leave their own due to the depression and lack of growth then we have come to a sad spot in life. I can't say I understand the struggles of your era besides what I have read and your experiences undoubtedly are more in depth but what have we really accomplished in half a century. Are we really trying our best to move forward or just blaming everyone else for our lack of growth?

[bigbadsam]

we are part of the problem in the destruction of our black men . there is
so much negativity about black men in this country. black are "not" inferior
to anyone. as long as we put down our blaqck males so will everyone else
we need to pull together and make liars out of everyone that is writing off
our black males. these fathers that bail out on there families need to be
whipped. i was blessed to have my father in my life,but my father lost his own
father at age 7,but he was blessed to have other male figures in his family to
step up to the plate during his childhood. my father is deceased now,but i am
glad he was in my life. now i am raising a 17 yr old daughter. i thnk that we as
a community need to step up to the plate to try helping those who are without their fathers. some black women have a good black man in their lives and dont appreciate him til he leaves,then its too late. we as a communty are guilty of having this "it aint my problem" attitude. i say it is the community's problem. i think we all know a few black boys here and there that are going thru life without their fathers,whether it be kenfolks or friends
or neighbors. we need to get off our butts and pitch in to help make a
positive difference.we need to let them know that they are special and they
are somebody.a lot of black boys feel all alone,but we must let them know that they are not alone,we must build them up and stop tearing them down.
if we had been more involved,then there would be less black boys on the streets stealing,selling drugs and bling-bling,and killing each other. some
parents have down a piss-poor job in raising their kids. if you write off your
own kids so everybody else. only you and i and the rest of the community
can turn this around. wake up family...............bigbadsam

[ORIGINALMAN]

The book is called, Why Are So Many Black Men In Prison ? by Demico Boothe..This is from a brotha who spent time in the system, and has analyzed the real reasons behind our brothas being locked up. People it's time to wake-up. Also this brotha needs to be on the show.

[sq357]

I have an 18 yr. old boy who thinks he knows everything. I preached as much as I could about this society how he is just prey in this jungle of white hunters for whatever they see fit for him too either succeed or fail, meaning there are good white element, such as the sports side who will use him for their own personal gain and their is the justice system just waiting for him to place that ex-felon label for life on him. So far he's chosen the former but his attitude is so bad I actually fear for his life. He knows everything. I take my share of the blame but he will not listen to a positive message. So what do you do in a case like that? I really do need answers
Lonsom1, how are you! First, I hope that your son come to realize that he has a life--he may not have chose the life, but none-the-less, it's a life...and when he stands before his creator I hope he can say "with this life, I've done my best.

The only thing that you can do is Foster encouragement...don't be defensive or degrading and moreso, don't let him dictate within your house. If you do anything more, you are only enabling him.

When a young man reach the age of 18, he is in total control of his dystiny. There is so much, you want to do...where is it taking you! Put your faith and trust in HE, THAT IS. Equally as important is taking care of U!

[SirNoseDevo]

I have an 18 yr. old boy who thinks he knows everything. I preached as much as I could about this society how he is just prey in this jungle of white hunters for whatever they see fit for him too either succeed or fail, meaning there are good white element, such as the sports side who will use him for their own personal gain and their is the justice system just waiting for him to place that ex-felon label for life on him. So far he's chosen the former but his attitude is so bad I actually fear for his life. He knows everything. I take my share of the blame but he will not listen to a positive message. So what do you do in a case like that? I really do need answers

Really at 18 years old your Son does think that he knows everything,
and just put alittle bit time on the problem things will change. However,
don't turn your back on him, due to the fact that he's trying to be
(what he thinks is cool like his so-called Friends), but he will have to
learn on his own who is his real friends once he's in trouble,and they run
leaving him to take the blame.

Listen, You can tell him what I am about to say, and that's nobody
own him nothing. I am a single Father who caught hell 19 years
raising two Sons alone, but I am proud that both of my Sons are
grown, and did make something out of their lives.

One works for Microsoft in Seattle Washington as a Program Trouble
shooter, and the other Son is a Child Protection Social Worker who
work with troubled young Brothers. Give him all the love and
understanding that he needs, and stand your grounds as the provider
for the household.

If he thinks that 18 years old makes him grown then he needs to
have a place of his own, but remember if you have bought him up right
to the point where he begin to rebell..don't worry, cause he will go
so far out into the water until it will get to deep for him, and once he
realize he can't swin he will return home.

This is why today's society of Children needs a man in his or her life.
Regardless to if its the Big Brother image, or a Best Friend relationship,
or just as a play Brother. Some Uncles can be a useful resource, and
these things don't work.....Then there's a bullitt, jail, or hell awaiting
the choice is his, and all you can do is to continue to show love.
OH Please Forgive me for not greeting you at the beginning...So Hello.
I was so involved in reading your post until my mind went outta space.

Good Luck, Sir Nose Devo of Funk.

[Analytical1]

The way I see it, we have and continue to lose our boys mainly because black men are abandoning their roles as husbands and fathers. I am not married but have a son, he spends summers with his father, but that is all. His father and I used to argue all the time, about him not interacting with him, especially since he lives out of town. Even when he wasnt paying child support I always left the door open for my ex to be a father, but he wouldnt do it, so after 4 years of trying to get him more involved, I gave up. He calls my son to talk to him maybe once or twice a year, other than the summer he spends with him, and even then, my sons father is working or running the streets and the children are pretty much ignored.

The cross I bear, is that I picked my ex to be the father of my son, when I decided to have my child. So I take responsibility for that. My ex has seven children, I have two of them, twins (boy and a girl) and he just had another boy with a girl that was just "a friend". We women are stupid, because we are having these boys out of wedlock without the benefit of marriage and the fathers are just walking away, because for the most part they are not that invested. Most of the black children that have been born over the past 40 years, a whopping 50%-70% are being born to single mothers! A woman cannot teach a boy how to be a man, they need a role model, but the fathers are not around, they are leaving that to the mothers and we do the best we can, but aI just feel that there are some things that are inherently male, that only a male can teach another male. For instance, I know what a menstrual cycle is, what changes occur in a females body and could pass this on to my daughter, but I dont know a whole lot about what happens to a boy when puberty hits.

I have talked to my son about sex, sexuality, what is appropriate and what is not, but how a male feels sexually and what to expect I have no clue and his father wont talk to him. When my son was 5or 6 years old, I contacted the 100 Black Men of America, trying to find a mentor for my son, but they told me they only had men available for 12 year olds, because they felt that group was most at risk, so now that my son is 12 years old, I will try again. It hurts me that his father is so nonchalant and selfish, but he is, what he is. I did not pick well and my children are suffering for it. I try to make up for it, by getting them involved in activities at school and outside of school, I try to be the best mom I can be by monitoring what they watch, listen to, where they go and who they interact with.

I thought I had it bad as a single mother, but I have friends and associates who are married and they have told me many times that even being married, their husbands leave the raising of the children strictly to the woman. They have to do everything, clean them, bath them, get them to school, go to their plays, etc. I am not saying all fathers are non-interactive with their son, but a lot of them are, or only give guidance to their sons on how to get women in bed. Because that is what I see, a lot of married men on the prowl for women. This takes up a lot of their time, so they dont have time for parenting, unless little Johnny gets in trouble. It just seems to me these last couple of generations of blacks, though my generation are the most prosperous generations of blacks in the history of America, have just been falling down on the job as parents. We forgot what our grandparents taught us and as a result the children are suffering for it. This makes me very sad and I dont see how it is going to be fixed.

[mtskyblue]

I am a white woman and a teacher to black children. My students go to a school that is predominately black. Their school district has black administrators, but their teachers and principals are conversely predominately white. While my students and I share a mutual respect, we also share first-hand the racism that permeates both our culture and our educational institutions.
You see my students buy into the “lie” that they fail in school because of their color. They also buy into the lie that they fail because of the school they attend, the neighborhood they live in and because of the town they call home. However, most of my students do not believe they fail because of their own attitudes or actions.
They believe they cannot learn and that they are bad. So they are punished for their choices rather than taught alternative behaviors. Their behavior only serves to reinforce the low expectations for them, not that the discipline is ineffective. Students cannot fulfill their potential when their future is based on a history of failure. The “lie” that they have been told for so long has convinced them that few of them have any real expectations that their lives will ever change. The “lie” has robbed them of hope and the belief that they can succeed.
Sadly, that lie is also an assumption that is perpetuated by a hunger for greed and power. Our educational systems and those who make decisions either assume out of ignorance that all students come equipped with the same background knowledge, or simply choose to ignore the academic needs of their students. Reading by definition requires that the reader bring prior knowledge and experience to the task of reading. Yet students of color use are asked to embrace a curriculum that neither represents or acknowledges the contributions of their culture or other diverse peoples. Likewise assessments are biased towards the Angelo majority and are devoid of any accountability to the cultural context of the diverse populations that are also required to be assessed.
Even though I am not a member of the “black family,” I am a member of the human family and the family of God. However, in as much as I want to help change the future for my students, they must make the decision to change their own future. They must deny the lies that society tells them about what it means to be black, and embrace an ideal that is empowering, the “truth” that God created them to succeed.
In so many ways, this is a battle family! Not between white and black, but between good and evil. Dark and light, and hate and love. Martin Luther King Jr. knew the power of light and love. It cost him his life. So let’s not let his life’s work be in vain. Let’s continue the battle and use our gifts to protect the rights of all people, especially our children.

[JaNan]

I still have a lump in my throat after reading this article. I am so sick of hearing the negative media about our Black males, but what can I say, it's true. I live in a small Louisiana town were the poverty rate is high, and our school system is deplorable. Our test scores are terrible, and our school system is under investigation for missing funds that were used for unauthorized travel, food, and countless other things, too embarrassing to mention. We must hold our schools accountable; these kids are our future. What is our problem in the Black Community? It seems as if we have given up on our kids. I have been a social worker for the last 30 years, and have woked with welfare, food stamps, and presently with child support.; and have seen and heard it all. We have to do a better job as parents, because it starts in the home. We have to provide positive role models at home before we send the kids to school and expect the ill-equipped schools to work miracles. We can't allow our sons to leave our homes with their pants hanging below thier butts, even though we realize that they will adjust them when they are out of our view. I work with "dead beat" dads, and "dead broke" dads on a daily basis, and some of our Black fathers are pathetic. They have no interest in the children that they have fathered, other then to dodge the system to remain invisible for as long as possible. Of course we have fathers who just don't have the means to support their kids, but they are there for their kids to assist in the upbringing. Our male kids desperately need male figures in their lives.

I am happy to say that I raised two sons, who graduated from high school, and both have graduated from college with advanced degrees. I preached to them that society viewed them as an "endangered species", and I expected more of them. From any early age, we told them things about "when" they went to college, not "if" they attended school. Of course I'm proud of my sons, but saddened by the fact that maybe I haven't done enough in my own community to help another mother's son. We can't work miracles, but I firmly believe that if everyone did somthing in our homes and communities, we "will" make a difference.

[Lurch89]

Hello, minglecity community. I am attempting to give away the scholarship information to anyone who needs the information, so e-mail me at crjacjrw1@aol.com and I will send the information to you. I have attempted numerous time to get this information out to the community for the last 3yrs. I agree with some of the information about the problems we have as a community or ethnic group.The real question is what are we going to do about solving the problem. Each one / Teach one sharing knowledge is a start for me so, how can I assist the community Lurch 89 in B'ham AL. What do you think about this topic

Subject: FW: FW: Statement Read On NYC Radio Station Regarding Black People

My Brothers & Sisters & Daughter:

Now you know why it is so hard for African Americans to come together. We have forgotten the struggles and gains made by OUR people before US. I challenge each and every one of you to start making a difference. Embrace YOUR people, lend a helping hand to allow US to achieve more than just the American dream – I’m talking greatness! Do not allow anyone to tell US what we can and cannot do. WE are a great people who have proven time and again that WE are more than survivors of slavery in this country -- and others – WE are the descendants of KINGS and QUEENS!

John

Subject: FW: FW: Statement Read On NYC Radio Station Regarding Black People

Here is an interesting article.
Somewhat true, but certainly not applicable to all Blacks.

Enjoy,
Sheila D.


BLACK PEOPLE, PLEASE, READ & HEED. POIGNANT.

The sad thing about this article is that the essence of it is true. The truth hurts. I just hope this sets more Black people in motion towards making real progress. Chris Rock, a Black comedian, even joked that Blacks don't read.
Help prove them wrong! Read and pass on.

Please Note:
For those of you who heard it, this is the article Dee Lee was reading this morning on a New York radio station. For those of you who didn't hear it, this is very deep. This is a heavy piece and a Caucasian wrote it.
Dee Lee, CFP
Harvard Financial Educators



Dee Lee:
THEY ARE STILL OUR SLAVES. We can continue to reap profits from the Blacks without the effort of physical slavery. Look at the current methods of containment that they use on themselves: IGNORANCE, GREED, and SELFISHNESS.
Their IGNORANCE is the primary weapon of containment. A great man once said, "The best way to hide something from Black people is to put it in a book." We now live in the Information Age. They have gained the opportunity to read any book on any subject through the efforts of their fight for freedom, yet they refuse to read. There are numerous books readily available at Borders, Barnes & Noble, and Amazon.com, not to mention their own Black Bookstores that provide solid blueprints to reach economic equality (which should have been their fight all along), but few read consistently, if at all.
GREED is another powerful weapon of containment. Blacks, since the abolition of slavery, have had large amounts of money at their disposal. Last year they spent 10 billion dollars during Christmas, out of their 450 billion dollars in total yearly income (2.22%).
Any of us can use them as our target market, for any business venture we care to dream up, no matter how outlandish, they will buy into it. Being primarily a consumer people, they function totally by greed. They continually want more, with little thought for saving or investing.
They would rather buy some new sneaker than invest in starting a business. Some even neglect their children to have the latest Tommy or FUBU, And they still think that having a Mercedes, and a big house gives them "Status" or that they have achieved their Dream.
They are fools! The vast majority of their people are still in poverty because their greed holds them back from collectively making better communities.
With the help of BET, and the rest of their black media that often broadcasts destructive images into their own homes, we will continue to see huge profits like those of Tommy and Nike. (Tommy Hilfiger has even jeered them, saying he doesn't want their money, and look at how the fools spend more with him than ever before!). They'll continue to show off to each other while we build solid communities with the profits from our businesses that we market to them.
SELFISHNESS, ingrained in their minds through slavery, is one of the major ways we can continue to contain them. One of their own, Dubois said that there was an innate division in their culture. A "Talented Tenth" he called it. He was correct in his deduction that there are segments of their culture that has achieved some "form" of success.
However, that segment missed the fullness of his work. They didn't read that the "Talented Tenth" was then responsible to aid The Non-Talented Ninety Percent in achieving a better life. Instead, that segment has created another class, a Buppie class that looks down on their people or aids them in a condescending manner.
They will never achieve what we have. Their selfishness does not allow them to be able to work together on any project or endeavor of substance. When they do get together, their selfishness lets their egos get in the way of their goal. Their so-called help organizations seem to only want to promote their name without making any real change in their community.
They are content to sit in conferences and conventions in our hotels, and talk about what they will do, while they award plaques to the best speakers, not to the best doers. Is there no end to their selfishness? They steadfastly refuse to see that TOGETHER EACH ACHIEVES MORE (TEAM).
They do not understand that they are no better than each other because of what they own, as a matter of fact, most of those Buppies are but one or two pay checks away from poverty. All of which is under the control of our pens in our offices and our rooms.
Yes, we will continue to contain them as long as they refuse to re ad, continue to buy anything they want, and keep thinking they are "helping" their communities by paying dues to organizations which do little other than hold lavish conventions in our hotels. By the way, don't worry about any of them reading this letter, remember, 'THEY DON'T READ!!!!

(Prove them wrong. Please pass this on! After Reading it..)
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[zion]

A judge ordered a black teenager back to jail, deciding the fight that put him in the national spotlight violated terms of his probation for a previous conviction, his attorney said.

Mychal Bell, who along with five other black teenagers in the so-called Jena Six case is accused of beating a white classmate, had gone to juvenile court in Jena on Thursday expecting another routine hearing, said Carol Powell Lexing, one of his attorneys.

Instead, state District Judge J.P. Mauffrey Jr. sentenced Bell to 18 months in jail on two counts of simple battery and two counts of criminal destruction of property, Lexing said.

"We are definitely going to appeal this," she said. "We'll continue to fight."

Bell had been hit with those charges before the Dec. 4 attack on classmate Justin Barker. Details on the previous charges, which were handled in juvenile court, were unclear.

Mauffrey, reached at his home Thursday night, had no comment.

"He's locked up again," Marcus Jones said of his 17-year-old son. "No bail has been set or nothing. He's a young man who's been thrown in jail again and again, and he just has to take it."

After the attack on Barker, Bell was originally charged with attempted murder, but the charges were reduced and he was convicted of battery. An appeals court threw that conviction out, saying Bell should not have been tried as an adult on that charge.

Racial tensions began rising in August 2006 in Jena after a black student sat under a tree known as a gathering spot for white students. Three white students later hung nooses from the tree. They were suspended but not prosecuted.

More than 20,000 demonstrators gathered last month in the small central Louisiana town to protest what they perceive as differences in how black and white suspects are treated. The case has drawn the attention of civil rights activists including the Revs. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

Sharpton reacted swiftly upon learning Bell was back in jail Thursday.

"We feel this was a cruel and unusual punishment and is a revenge by this judge for the Jena Six movement," said Sharpton, who helped organize the protest held Sept. 20, the day Bell was originally supposed to be sentenced.

Bell's parents were also ordered to pay all court costs and witness costs, Sharpton said.

"I don't know what we're going to do," Jones said. "I don't know how we're going to pay for any of this. I don't know how we're going to get through this."

Bell and the other five defendants have been charged in the attack on Barker, which left him unconscious and bleeding with facial injuries. According to court testimony, he was repeatedly kicked by a group of students at the high school.

Barker was treated for three hours at an emergency room but was able to attend a school function that evening, authorities have said.

Bell, Robert Bailey Jr., Carwin Jones, Bryant Purvis and Theo Shaw were all initially charged — as adults — with attempted second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit the same. A sixth defendant was charged in the case as a juvenile.

Bell, who was 16 at the time, was convicted in June of aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit that crime. LaSalle Parish prosecutor Reed Walters reduced the charges just before the trial. Since then, both of those convictions were dismissed and tossed back to juvenile court, where they now are being tried.

Charges against Bailey, 18, Jones, 19, and Shaw, 18, have been reduced to aggravated second-degree battery. Purvis, 18, has not yet been arraigned.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071012/ap_on_re_us/jena_six

[SirNoseDevo]

So don't blame all the bullshit on us Black men, due to the fact that
Black women do their share in turning a kid against his or her Father,
and its examples like you gave that has created a problem.
I can't stand it when a woman seems to always blame the shit on the
man, and yet fail to realize that they had a part in the mess also.

However neither Parents have to suffer like the child have to suffer.
Especially when a Mother brings a male of another color into the home
over a Child(ren), and expect the child to go along with the program.

Parents pointing fingers at each other does the growing child more
damage mentally to the point that a child grows up hating both
parents, and then one or both Parents can't understand the pain.

So IF America has losted a generation of Black Boys & Girls it has
also losted two generations of Parents as well. The children did not
ask to be born, and why should a child have to suffer for the parent
mistake?

In closing, late last night I received a 911 call that one of my youth
clients tried to kill himself. The child client came to my case load six
months ago from Social Service for running away from home.
After investigating the situation its was discovered that the kid had
a White Father and a Black Mother, and the children at School plus
the neighborhood was making fun by calling him a half breed.

So I thought that I would share that to give a BIG PICTURE on how
its not just the black generation that's losted there is whites who
is losted or confused as well.

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

[MsSharae]

As I begain to read the story, My heart begain to heart. To read how we are losing another gerneration of black boys. There is a war on our Black young males. The system is set up to imprison our young black boys. This is another form of slavery. Please Family that have male children raise your male child like you raise your female child.

In case you didn't know, as many do not, the laws regarding corporal punishment have changed drastically over the last decade making any discipline with an object, including a belt or resulting in any form of bruising or scarring to be excessive and charges will be brought against the family of the victim. I am speaking from personal experience as this is a battle that I am currently going through in the juvenile dependency courts. My four children have been removed from my custody for failure to protect. It is a great travesty and in this part of the system the parents are not giving an option to address the issue, instead only the social workers recommendation is honored. Do here I stand as a devoted and loving mother who disciplines her children and instills in them the appropriate values to prevent them from being among our lost boys one day and they are kidjacked by CPS...which appears to have a stance that all black people abuse their children and need to be re-programmed.:(

[smoovehorns]

I think one of the major problems is that the youth has taken the prison image as something to esteem too.. Its bragging rights in some areas to have been in jail just as it is to being or living through a shooting.. The wearing of the pants to the hips or below is from prison (no belts allowed) set..

We've taken education and made it something not to aim for -- using slang words and learning the words to rap seem more important or the 'fit in' thing to do. We have to somehow bring about an awareness as to whats happening or (never stopped) to us these days.. Bring back black pride (red,black and green flag), unity, love.. Guys stop degrading the women -- saying all the wrong things!!! Women stop hating on your black men -- help us to get better -- its not our fault --take a look at the big picture its not our fault!!! Lets help each other!!!

The way guys wear their clothes, the music we hear, the food we eat, things we say etc.. are pushed on us by the financial backing of people that would rather us do what we do and say what we say -- think on that...

[SirNoseDevo]

I know what this post will sound like to some of you,
but let's get real as parents with children, and stop
being in denial about parentshood. Most people are
(parents) self-centered when it comes to raising a
child. Each of us knows from the environment that we
was raised in if we caught hell or was the home peaceful.

So to me I do not feel sorry one damn bit for parents who
abuse their child(ren), and the state takes them away from
the home. Believe me I watch children being taken from the
home on the daily bases, and when seeing this I have to leave
the scene because sometimes it gets to emotional.

This is why we are losing our Black youth to the criminal Justice
System, and to the fostercare systems. It pisses me off real bad
when I have to take a child from its home in order to safe its
life in the long run, and the most worse situations is when a Mother
sells or exchange the child sex for drugs.

Why should a parent(s) be allowed to try to justify the situation
that was caused by them? The parent should have thought about
the consequences before the abuse and neglection, and most of
the court cases that I have been involved in the adults seem to
always say that they was abused as they was coming up.

So this is one of the many reasons (if there is a reason) for our
Black generation to be losted, and then you have some parents
to get straight just long enough to get their children back.
Sometimes the front don't last to long, and the children is gone
again.

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

[BUFFIE26]

We need to find a way for teachers, parents and our churches to lift our children. We use to protect our our and teach our children but somehow we stop doing that. Both parents need to be involved(interested) in their children's lives.

[m.dee yall]

As i read all of these replys,i wonder,where have all of you been for the last 20 years.This has been going on for longer than that,but it only has come out in the media lately to let the so-called middle-class blacks become aware of whats happening to our youth in the poorer sections of town.Yall didnt think it was a problem until your kids started hanging in the hood where you moved out and never looked back.Since they are wearing their pants below their waist,and smoking blunts with the thugs in the hood,now you wanna talk about how we are losing our youth to the streets.Well its never to late to help.Glad your back on our side.(the black side of things) But,instead of always talkin' bout,pointin' the finger,and accusing one another,lets start to really work together and stop this madness yhat happening to our youth.I say our youth,because our girls are out there too,gang bangin' and wearing their clothes all off of their bodies,and having lesibian encounters.thats not natural for our little black girls to be doing.Come on black adults.step up to the plate and take back our children.(i say take back our children cause we dont have a community to take back cause it belongs to the delevopers,we dont own it,all we own is our children.black-men and black-women need to step up and be real black parents.Stop treating these kids like they are your age,they are your children.You are the adult,not them.Dont let them run over you.Your parent didnt let you run over them,or talk to them any kind of way,so dont let your child do it to you!Make them pull up those pants.Dont you buy them big pants and dont let them buy big pants.Make them stay in school,make them do somekind of homework everyday when they get home from school.Make them come straight home from school everyday.I see a lot of kids running the street after school with backpacks on until 7 or 8 pm every night .take control of your kids before the white man does.

[m.dee yall]

As i read all of these replys,i wonder,where have all of you been for the last 20 years.This has been going on for longer than that,but it only has come out in the media lately to let the so-called middle-class blacks become aware of whats happening to our youth in the poorer sections of town.Yall didnt think it was a problem until your kids started hanging in the hood where you moved out and never looked back.Since they are wearing their pants below their waist,and smoking blunts with the thugs in the hood,now you wanna talk about how we are losing our youth to the streets.Well its never to late to help.Glad your back on our side.(the black side of things) But,instead of always talkin' bout,pointin' the finger,and accusing one another,lets start to really work together and stop this madness yhat happening to our youth.I say our youth,because our girls are out there too,gang bangin' and wearing their clothes all off of their bodies,and having lesibian encounters.thats not natural for our little black girls to be doing.Come on black adults.step up to the plate and take back our children.(i say take back our children cause we dont have a community to take back cause it belongs to the delevopers,we dont own it,all we own is our children.)Black-Men and Black-Women need to step up and be real black parents.Stop treating these kids like they are your age,they are your children.You are the adult,not them.Dont let them run over you.Your parent didnt let you run over them,or talk to them any kind of way,so dont let your child do it to you!Make them pull up those pants.Dont you buy them big pants and dont let them buy big pants.Make them stay in school,make them do somekind of homework everyday when they get home from school.Make them come straight home from school everyday.I see a lot of kids running the street after school with backpacks on until 7 or 8 pm every night .take control of your kids before the white man does.

[smoovehorns]

There are many causes to us not teaching/supporting our children any more -- and that is something that affects everyone.. There was once a time when MOM was able to stay at home with the kids, there was once a time when disciplining your kids was the norm (heck your neighbors/teachers(catholic), was able to do that...

Dr. Spock changed lots of that the rest was destroyed by our govt.. The prices of homes, food etc and wages not keeping up except for those with a good college education/connections is gone.. In todays society we want the biggest and the best, but there are consequences to that -- which usually means the credit cards<< but who lets c/c companies send those credit invitations to our home or worse yet to college campuses?? the Govt.. yet if we don't pay the bills -- the govt backs the c/c companies..

The way things are only the upper middle or upper class can afford to send their kids to college without aid -- and that keeps going up - so at some point there will be people that can AFFORD and those that can't.. Which if you think about it is the recent drive of the govt. NO middle class!! >> which then brings about the dumbing down of the USA and creating a service industry to serve the wealthy and hold the economy.. The way I put it is --- we are the ole ant farms of our early years in school.. remember>> all the lil ants just busy scurrying around while the queen just relaxes.. Well thats us, we work to support/generate the income/taxes for the rich and bankers running the whole scheme..!!

[Cherokee LaDona del Bronx]

Hello everyone:

WOW! This thread really brings out the crowd..huh.

Ok,
You know what really gets to me. All of these adults keep telling me a young man that my generation is lost and saying things like "back in the day we had respect". Let me say this as clearly as I can. I don't want to hear anymore about how bad off my generation is when we were raised by the same people who stood up during the civil rights movement, which by far was black americas finest hour. If my generation is lost today then we have your generation to thank for your lack of leadership. Ones behavior often determines ones conditions and behavior is taught it doesn't just happen. So if you think things are so bad then stop looking down on young people and start helping them.

1. filmoredollar: I am total agreement with your statement. You are 100%. We messed up this generation. How? Not being consistent and carrying the struggle. After the Civil Rights era and the return of hundreds upon hundreds of soldiers from Vietnam, we gave up. We abandoned our kids to help our men, fathers, and brothers who could not be helped. The returnees were put into a situation and then snatched out without any reinforecement. The kids were left to take care of themselves. And please lets not forget CRACK! So for 30 years, we have THIS!


It's interesting the wording that is used to describe our children and the conversation on this board. Words have energy. The conversation should be HOW CAN WE SAVE OUR YOUNG BOYS. Stop blaming each other and do something. As long as we keep pointing the finger nothing will ever get solved.

We need more responsible men in schools, more afterschool programs with a structure that will help build their self esteeme and increase their test scores.
We can get it right if we just stop blaming the teen age mother what about the teenage father. Our children need their parents whether they are together or not. The majority of children in Newark are being taken care of by their grandmothers so you know grandma loves them but can she discipline a young man - come on stop the nonsense and do something.

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2. beautifulone: THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I'm not shouting; I'm rejoicing. This was not the place to voice "those" types of concerns. This was a solution thread...period. I was raised by my great-grandmother who was 79yrs old and I was 11. I have two degrees. I am a Community Liaison for the Youth of Morrisania, Bronx, NY; My only concern: GED training; Job training and Placement; Entrepreneurship and College preparation courses.

You'd better be careful using terms like "personal responsibility" on these forums. These threads are for victims only.

While Mr. Jackson may be leaning in the correct direction, the true solutions aren't so complex. Statistically, there are only 3 things a person needs to do to all but ensure success in America and a quick look at the census data will prove it.

The solutions:
1. Finish high school
2. Don't get pregnant before you get married.
3. Even after you’re married, don't attempt to raise a child until at least 21.

That is it. Anyone who manages to do these three simple things has an 80% chance of never living in poverty. Conversely, violation of any of these three rules will give you the same 80% chance of having to live with poverty for some extended period. The success rate climbs from this baseline nearly exponentially for those who continue their education beyond high school or for those that postpone pregnancy for a few more years.

Just because I know the militant victims who lurk around here will ask...those who follow the rules but still don't make it into the 80% tend to make other inherently harmful lifestyle choices like drug abuse and other criminal activity. The numbers who follow the rules and don't engage in these types of behaviors that still don't remain out of poverty are miniscule. I've no doubt that if you did a breakout by race you would find that the blacks only rate was slightly lower. Even if there were a 15% difference that would still leave the success rates at 65% and it would still climb exponentially for those who go beyond the requirements.

3. deadeyes: Yes, you are correct: Educations is the key and crucial to our livelihood. It allows choices. When education is lacked, there are NO choices.

It Can Be Done!!!!
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I agree with it on the most part. As a single mother of 5 boys none of which have ever been arrested and all but the 2 youngest have graduated from High School and gone to College. The 2 younger ones ages 13 and 17 are already College bond. Education in mandatory in our house and they know that failure is not an option!!!!! I also have two daughters whom have gone to 4yr Universities and graduated as well. So my whole point is this it can be done but it starts in the womb and at home. It should not be left to the teachers nor society to raise our children we as parents must stop being punks and do our job raising our YOUNG BLACK MEN!!!!!!!!!!!


4. Miss Johnnie: I take my hat off to YOU My Queen. See, that's what I'm talking about.

It takes a Village to raise a child. Step Up. Handle your business. If you increase empowerment for those in your immediate surroundings, then they won't look at YOU as the department store.

Lookout for your neighbor. If you see something, say something. God protects that Child who has their own. Do not sit and watch the single parent or grandmother struggle. Step up.

What do you have to lose.

One

[SirNoseDevo]

As i read all of these replys,i wonder,where have all of you been for the last 20 years.This has been going on for longer than that,but it only has come out in the media lately to let the so-called middle-class blacks become aware of whats happening to our youth in the poorer sections of town.Yall didnt think it was a problem until your kids started hanging in the hood where you moved out and never looked back.Since they are wearing their pants below their waist,and smoking blunts with the thugs in the hood,now you wanna talk about how we are losing our youth to the streets.Well its never to late to help.Glad your back on our side.(the black side of things) But,instead of always talkin' bout,pointin' the finger,and accusing one another,lets start to really work together and stop this madness yhat happening to our youth.I say our youth,because our girls are out there too,gang bangin' and wearing their clothes all off of their bodies,and having lesibian encounters.thats not natural for our little black girls to be doing.Come on black adults.step up to the plate and take back our children.(i say take back our children cause we dont have a community to take back cause it belongs to the delevopers,we dont own it,all we own is our children.)Black-Men and Black-Women need to step up and be real black parents.Stop treating these kids like they are your age,they are your children.You are the adult,not them.Dont let them run over you.Your parent didnt let you run over them,or talk to them any kind of way,so dont let your child do it to you!Make them pull up those pants.Dont you buy them big pants and dont let them buy big pants.Make them stay in school,make them do somekind of homework everyday when they get home from school.Make them come straight home from school everyday.I see a lot of kids running the street after school with backpacks on until 7 or 8 pm every night .take control of your kids before the white man does.


Learn How to post..you don't know how to submit a comment?
Where have people been for the past 20 years? Damn that's
only 1987. It was the middle 1970's and 80's when parents lost
control of their children, and doing that time drugs had taken
over most American households(Blacks & Whites).
Also while we are on the subject Blacks don't have to be told
by whites how to raise their children, and from the looks of it
whites can't raise their own muchless ours.

You all is beating this subject to death..why not talk about
America's White Racist Generation being losted? Everything
is being blamed on Blacks, and is taking the load off of the
White race who started some of this bs from the beginning.

In closing, I attended a Black Youth program today at one
of the area Mental Health Centers, and the question was
What have you learned from the White Man?

I was :eek: at some of the replies that I heard, and the
majority of youth was right. Some said I learned how to
Hate. Some said I have learned how to use a Gun. Some
said I have learned how to take whatever I want, and
some said I was taught how to hotwire a car. Most said
to uses drugs and alcohol.

I support what the young Brothers and Sisters was saying,
but I also noticed that apparently these things was some
what overlooked in the home environment, and its a shame
hearing these examples coming from our Black youth.

So again its not just happening in our Black world. Its happening
in all races, but the white society is managing to keep their bs
on the download, and the white media is eating us alive.

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

[killuminati]

It's time to call a spade a spade, and not a ace. The origin of the world's problem, including the ill-influence of entertainment and education of our black youth, stems from the Jesuit Order of the Vatican. All I ask is that you research more into it and stop feeding into the proporganda they serve US on a regular basis. And once you keep digging, you will find out that the Hebrew Israelites are the original Jews mentioned in the Bible. But stop their influence and further, eradicate them from their positions, and you will see a change.

NO ONE MAN CAN DO IT ALONE, BUT A NATION??????

[SirNoseDevo]

It's time to call a spade a spade, and not a ace. The origin of the world's problem, including the ill-influence of entertainment and education of our black youth, stems from the Jesuit Order of the Vatican. All I ask is that you research more into it and stop feeding into the proporganda they serve US on a regular basis. And once you keep digging, you will find out that the Hebrew Israelites are the original Jews mentioned in the Bible. But stop their influence and further, eradicate them from their positions, and you will see a change


Killuminati, There is a few things that we do when posting a comment.
If we are replying to a quote we use the quote button this way one
will know who you are responding too. Like this line in your quote

All I ask is that you research more into it and stop feeding into the
propagenda they serve US on a regular basis (who are you posting
that too) Killuminati?

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

[lady417]

I have read the post and it just verified what I have been telling people for sometime now. I must add this to your list causes to this problem. Black women are not doing their jobs as mothers, sisters, friends, wives you name it. For whatever our males become begins and ends with us. We birth and nuture, we date and mate with them so the power to save them lies with us.

Yes, a lot of our hurts and pains comes thru men but it is because we allow it. We have to fall in love with self then teach males how to treat and respect us and them selves. We have to let them know it is okay to show emotion, it is okay to want more for yourself, it is okay to be different from the next man etc. But do we do that, no we disrespect ourselves then teach them how to so they fall into the hands of a society that is set up to enslave them mentally and physically then we complain about it.


We need to teach them to not just think that they can't become something we have to go back in history and show them who the first mathematicians, doctors and scientist were. Who were royalty and who made things in this country work. If it had not been for the blood of our ancestors nothing could not work. If we teach them it is okay to educate yourself but go farther than what the system teaches you and research your own history then we can begin to tackle the problem. the prison is the new slave master and he is winning. We need to learn to read, read , read and move into to action against the demon that enslaves us. They make more money in the Us off of putting our youth in prison than any other business per year... Think about it.

[newmommy]

:) and its amazing how many are ruined its sad and its ashame. thats why when mike does his shows on mamas boys and so forth im like..yo i have so many terrible stories. mothers need to stop just raising the girls to be strong and do the same to these young boys.

this situation open up so many cans of worms and i appreciate this show very much. we have to lift up our people, our younger siblings and friends relatives and neighbors like they used to do old skool. but now adays people dont want you correcting their kids cause some people "break arms and wrists" and other terrible things. we got to learn to love us so we can show our love. this situation ha sshown we can do it...but we have to come harder.

everytime the jena 6 issue comes on the news, they always announce it as michael bell who beat up a white boy. they dont say retaliation anywhere when they talk about this situation, they dont tell the whole story. they expose what they want. but damn if the bible aint say "the truth shall set you free!"

[Brotherjx]

Jena's racist court system contiues to motivate grassroots activists in Louisiana

Community Defender TV, Public Access ch - 15, Lafayette, La.
www.blackaction.net

[mocreations]

Hello
First I would like to say that I am Proud that you took a stand!
I have always wanted some one to step to the table., because I've seen a lot of people come and go.
After Dr. Martin luther King was assasinated there did not seem to be anyone
to care enough to take action!
Now my theory is we as black people are always excepting everyone, but we do not except ourselves.
We need to bring our families and communities back together and be the powerful race that we can be, and gain our respect. Then I think we would not have to struggle as hard.
Now do not get me wrong. I am glad that part of Dr.MLK's dream came alive, but I'm quite sure he did not want us to fall apart in the process!
We do not have to be predjudice against anyone. We just have to figure out a way that we can come together.

[killuminati]

Killuminati, There is a few things that we do when posting a comment.
If we are replying to a quote we use the quote button this way one
will know who you are responding too. Like this line in your quote

All I ask is that you research more into it and stop feeding into the
propagenda they serve US on a regular basis (who are you posting
that too) Killuminati?

Sir Nose D.V of Funk


actually, that post is to everyone. and I know how to use a forum quote reply...........watch.

you see, I will quote your question.

(who are you posting that too) Killuminati?


but I proposed that to everyone, since everyone is bringing up very good points, but not calling spade a spade.


and the entire racial issue is not even the ingredients of the cake. that's a planned, Illuminati distraction. so while "we," because I'm one who wants equal rights for all, are distracted by people like Michael Richards, who's a 32 degree Mason, the people who have taken over the U.S. Gov't are bringing forth the North American Union and taking people's land with imminent domain, in order to build a highway stretching from Mexico to Canada. you do know Bush passed a presidential order which gives him dictatorship in a "emergency" right?

[filmoredollar]

The way I see it, we have and continue to lose our boys mainly because black men are abandoning their roles as husbands and fathers. I am not married but have a son, he spends summers with his father, but that is all. His father and I used to argue all the time, about him not interacting with him, especially since he lives out of town. Even when he wasnt paying child support I always left the door open for my ex to be a father, but he wouldnt do it, so after 4 years of trying to get him more involved, I gave up. He calls my son to talk to him maybe once or twice a year, other than the summer he spends with him, and even then, my sons father is working or running the streets and the children are pretty much ignored.

The cross I bear, is that I picked my ex to be the father of my son, when I decided to have my child. So I take responsibility for that. My ex has seven children, I have two of them, twins (boy and a girl) and he just had another boy with a girl that was just "a friend". We women are stupid, because we are having these boys out of wedlock without the benefit of marriage and the fathers are just walking away, because for the most part they are not that invested. Most of the black children that have been born over the past 40 years, a whopping 50%-70% are being born to single mothers! A woman cannot teach a boy how to be a man, they need a role model, but the fathers are not around, they are leaving that to the mothers and we do the best we can, but aI just feel that there are some things that are inherently male, that only a male can teach another male. For instance, I know what a menstrual cycle is, what changes occur in a females body and could pass this on to my daughter, but I dont know a whole lot about what happens to a boy when puberty hits.

I have talked to my son about sex, sexuality, what is appropriate and what is not, but how a male feels sexually and what to expect I have no clue and his father wont talk to him. When my son was 5or 6 years old, I contacted the 100 Black Men of America, trying to find a mentor for my son, but they told me they only had men available for 12 year olds, because they felt that group was most at risk, so now that my son is 12 years old, I will try again. It hurts me that his father is so nonchalant and selfish, but he is, what he is. I did not pick well and my children are suffering for it. I try to make up for it, by getting them involved in activities at school and outside of school, I try to be the best mom I can be by monitoring what they watch, listen to, where they go and who they interact with.

I thought I had it bad as a single mother, but I have friends and associates who are married and they have told me many times that even being married, their husbands leave the raising of the children strictly to the woman. They have to do everything, clean them, bath them, get them to school, go to their plays, etc. I am not saying all fathers are non-interactive with their son, but a lot of them are, or only give guidance to their sons on how to get women in bed. Because that is what I see, a lot of married men on the prowl for women. This takes up a lot of their time, so they dont have time for parenting, unless little Johnny gets in trouble. It just seems to me these last couple of generations of blacks, though my generation are the most prosperous generations of blacks in the history of America, have just been falling down on the job as parents. We forgot what our grandparents taught us and as a result the children are suffering for it. This makes me very sad and I dont see how it is going to be fixed.

Is it possible that WOMEN are choosing bad men, laying down with them without actually knowing them MARRIAGE OF NOT. Am sorry, I just think their has to be some personal responsibility here. So I'll say what I think is the problem. Women date, marry, and have kids with men who are not ready or able to be fathers because they are "FINE" or because they have money (Or the look of money) and often not based on much else. These children that "are sufering" shouldn't even be here. It gets sick when a.) Kids stop having them b.) When Men and Women start choosing the children of their mothers better and when c.) Women and Men get themselves and their issues (and there are a lot of issues) resolved before entering into a relationship. We also need to learn to truely respect one another and the importance of one another roles in the lives of our children. How many ladies who are making these complaints about these men can honestly say that they talk to these men about fatherhood and paid attention to what kind of man that they were before laying down unprotected with that man Umarried most of the time which is why so many children are born to single fathers.

My arguement is simply this. The men who are abandoning their children would do it anyway because that is what's in the charactor of those men however, women who often times like to say that they are doing everything and men are doing nothing are the same ones who are with children from less than child worthy men. Hate to say this ladies but if men are so bad than do one simple thing and save good men like me the trouble of hearing about how bad all of us are. STOP HAVING CHILDREN. Respects yourselves enough to have standards and keep rubbers, holy water and whatever else you need to keep from getting pregnant in the mean time. I put this task on the women because at the end of the day you must know that if you choose the wrong man, it is you that will deal with it.

[filmoredollar]

we are part of the problem in the destruction of our black men . there is
so much negativity about black men in this country. black are "not" inferior
to anyone. as long as we put down our blaqck males so will everyone else
we need to pull together and make liars out of everyone that is writing off
our black males. these fathers that bail out on there families need to be
whipped. i was blessed to have my father in my life,but my father lost his own
father at age 7,but he was blessed to have other male figures in his family to
step up to the plate during his childhood. my father is deceased now,but i am
glad he was in my life. now i am raising a 17 yr old daughter. i thnk that we as
a community need to step up to the plate to try helping those who are without their fathers. some black women have a good black man in their lives and dont appreciate him til he leaves,then its too late. we as a communty are guilty of having this "it aint my problem" attitude. i say it is the community's problem. i think we all know a few black boys here and there that are going thru life without their fathers,whether it be kenfolks or friends
or neighbors. we need to get off our butts and pitch in to help make a
positive difference.we need to let them know that they are special and they
are somebody.a lot of black boys feel all alone,but we must let them know that they are not alone,we must build them up and stop tearing them down.
if we had been more involved,then there would be less black boys on the streets stealing,selling drugs and bling-bling,and killing each other. some
parents have down a piss-poor job in raising their kids. if you write off your
own kids so everybody else. only you and i and the rest of the community
can turn this around. wake up family...............bigbadsam

Unitl this is said and addressed within our community I fear that change will not come.

[filmoredollar]

I have read the post and it just verified what I have been telling people for sometime now. I must add this to your list causes to this problem. Black women are not doing their jobs as mothers, sisters, friends, wives you name it. For whatever our males become begins and ends with us. We birth and nuture, we date and mate with them so the power to save them lies with us.

Yes, a lot of our hurts and pains comes thru men but it is because we allow it. We have to fall in love with self then teach males how to treat and respect us and them selves. We have to let them know it is okay to show emotion, it is okay to want more for yourself, it is okay to be different from the next man etc. But do we do that, no we disrespect ourselves then teach them how to so they fall into the hands of a society that is set up to enslave them mentally and physically then we complain about it.


We need to teach them to not just think that they can't become something we have to go back in history and show them who the first mathematicians, doctors and scientist were. Who were royalty and who made things in this country work. If it had not been for the blood of our ancestors nothing could not work. If we teach them it is okay to educate yourself but go farther than what the system teaches you and research your own history then we can begin to tackle the problem. the prison is the new slave master and he is winning. We need to learn to read, read , read and move into to action against the demon that enslaves us. They make more money in the Us off of putting our youth in prison than any other business per year... Think about it.


I agree with you. This is a joint responsibility though. Black men and women are crucial. I just wish that women would choose their mates better. It starts here in my opinion with women choosing a worthy man. A household's foundation begins with one man and on women. If that man spends all his time playing x-box, smoking weed, and talking crazy to you and then you lay down with that man you the women are copable.

There are alot of good men ladies, lets take the time to find and wed them shall we.

[Analytical1]

Mr. Blackman, obviously the young lady in your article is sick, like the white woman who drowned all 5 of her children in 2001 or Susan Smith who deliberately left her 3 yr old and 18 month old in the car and let it roll into the river in 1994, then said that her car was stolen by a black man. I think in all of these cases, these women have some sort of emotional or mental illness. If this mother was a victim of domestic violence, and she never received counseling, then why are we surprised at what she did? Clearly she needed help and there was none.

Back in the 40's, 50's and 60's blacks helped each other, what happened to that? It seems today all we do is tear each other down, men and women. Try to hold each other back, instead of lifting each other up. As for raising children in a 2 parent home, I agree wholeheartedly with you on that one, but let me share some statistics with you.

In the age group between 18-24 years of age only 16% of black males are intrested in marriage compared to 23% of hispanic males and 32% of white males.

Between the ages of 25-34 only 23% of black males are interested in marriage, as opposed to 30% of hispanic males and 35% of white males in the same age group

Between 35-45 years of age only 32% of black males are interested in marriage compared to 40% of hispanic males and 54% of white males in the same group.

So since black males largely are not interested in marriage in the first place, how do we bring the two parent family back?

Of course black women have a part in this as well, because it seems to be no big deal for black women to have children out of wedlock without the benefit of marriage, I think the welfare system aided in this concept, because welfare made it easy for the woman to say I dont need a man, I can just have a baby and go get a check. Not thinking or caring what kind of life they would be bringing that child into. While I personally dont agree with this practice, I will not agree with your statement that black girls and women dont deserve to be respected. Sure there are some who dont, but there are plenty who do.

So given the present status of the way things are, what is your suggestion on getting black men and women interested in the institution of marriage and raising families together?

[Analytical1]

I have a long-time friend who is married and has been for the past 23 years. her husband was a longtime crack user, he is recovered now, but for almost 10 years he was out there. They have 3 sons, the oldest one seems to be following in the footsteps of his father, he uses drugs, has been to juvenile, dropped out of high school and may or may not have a baby. Now my friend says that her husband has been too soft on the boy and she feels maybe it is because he used to do drugs.

In any case the point I am trying to make, is this: When her husband was using, he took all the money out of the bank to support his habit. Many times, she would go get the money to buy the car back from the drug dealer. Now her boys was growing up observing all of this, and listening to them argue all the time. Now I ask you, was this a good environment?

[Analytical1]

We all can continue to talk about who is at blame for this lost generation of...., but the fact of the matter, is until we look in the mirror and understand that they didn't get this way all by themselves. We as community activist,
leaders, professionals, politicians, mama,papa,grandmama, you get the picture,...you know,"It takes a whole village" concept, lets stop the blame game. The Willie Lynch Syndrone is still in affect, isn't it. Just keep them fighting amongst themselves...the crab mentality. Thats:D why I try and teach one...reach one of our kids in my OOPS!! program (an Ounce Of Prevention Services) all about Law Related Education,(information,education and therapy); referrals from the juvenile justice system, concerned parents, etc. mostly African-American males (9to17 age)

I could not agree more with what you have said.

[Analytical1]

I agree with you. This is a joint responsibility though. Black men and women are crucial. I just wish that women would choose their mates better. It starts here in my opinion with women choosing a worthy man. A household's foundation begins with one man and on women. If that man spends all his time playing x-box, smoking weed, and talking crazy to you and then you lay down with that man you the women are copable.

There are alot of good men ladies, lets take the time to find and wed them shall we.

There may be a lot of good men, but with the ratio of women to men worldwide being 8 to 1, and in the black community, somehting like 20 to 1, please tell me how every black female is going to end up married and to a good guy, when they are few and far between based on statistics?

[filmoredollar]

There may be a lot of good men, but with the ratio of women to men worldwide being 8 to 1, and in the black community, somehting like 20 to 1, please tell me how every black female is going to end up married and to a good guy, when they are few and far between based on statistics?

Sooooo the alternative is to settle for less? Choose whoever? Am not worried about the world I am worried about America's black community. Just because the ratio is 20 to 1 doesn't mean you lay down unprotected with that one. And be honest, how many women have you ever spoken to who have told you that they had a baby with a guy because he was available? Some I'm sure, but not many. Mostly this is about bad choices made when choosing from the men that women do find.

[filmoredollar]

Marriage is not for everyone and 60% + percent of those end in failure anyway so obviously marriage is not the answer. But, I still think that a committment to a good man helps a woman and their kids.

I don't so much by the whole ratio thing just based on my opinion that women don't care for and appriciate the few good men that are around. Choosing instead to date knuckleheads and underacheivers and then complain about them after they get pregnant and surprise, surprise, the little boy starts acting like one.

[Blackman7]

His father and I used to argue all the time

And that's where you were wrong, right there! (besides having sex out of marriage). A wife should be OBEDIENT and SUBMISSIVE to her husband and always cheerful of speech.

However, you do seem to be an intelligent woman, but the SOCIETY that produced you is IGNORANT.

[Blackman7]

I have a long-time friend who is married and has been for the past 23 years. her husband was a longtime crack user, he is recovered now, but for almost 10 years he was out there. They have 3 sons, the oldest one seems to be following in the footsteps of his father, he uses drugs, has been to juvenile, dropped out of high school and may or may not have a baby. Now my friend says that her husband has been too soft on the boy and she feels maybe it is because he used to do drugs.

In any case the point I am trying to make, is this: When her husband was using, he took all the money out of the bank to support his habit. Many times, she would go get the money to buy the car back from the drug dealer. Now her boys was growing up observing all of this, and listening to them argue all the time. Now I ask you, was this a good environment?

What is her husband's background? Is he the bastard offspring of an adulterous second marriage? Was he born illegitimate? Was his father in the home?

[Blackman7]

Mr. Blackman, obviously the young lady in your article is sick, like the white woman who drowned all 5 of her children in 2001 or Susan Smith who deliberately left her 3 yr old and 18 month old in the car and let it roll into the river in 1994, then said that her car was stolen by a black man. I think in all of these cases, these women have some sort of emotional or mental illness. If this mother was a victim of domestic violence, and she never received counseling, then why are we surprised at what she did? Clearly she needed help and there was none.

Actually, Susan Smith drowned her children because the man she wanted told her he didn't want to be a stepfather. Like MANY american women, the most important thing to her was some ____! (any man's except her husband's)

Why is it that everytime WOMEN do something evil, they're assumed to be "sick"? Why can't they just be EVIL? No one says that John List was "sick" for killing his children, his wife, and his mother.

Is it that only WOMEN can be "sick"??? :rolleyes:

Back in the 40's, 50's and 60's blacks helped each other, what happened to that?

More and more black women started betraying their husbands. That's when blacks started having an INCREASE in the number of single parent homes.

It seems today all we do is tear each other down, men and women. Try to hold each other back, instead of lifting each other up.

Proverbs 14:1 Every wise woman BUILDETH her house, but the FOOLISH plucketh it down with her hands.

The WISE woman is OBEDIENT and SUBMISSIVE to her husband and always cheerful of speech. She does what is necessary to build her house UP, but the FOOLISH woman causes STRIFE and tears her house down.

A house where there is strife cannot prosper---Hindu proverb

In the age group between 18-24 years of age only 16% of black males are intrested in marriage compared to 23% of hispanic males and 32% of white males.

Why should young black males be interested in marriage, when most young black women aren't interested in being GOOD WIVES??? How many young black women do you know who would refrain from sex until marriage, be SUBMISSIVE to their husbands and always be CHEERFUL of speech??? :cool:

So since black males largely are not interested in marriage in the first place, how do we bring the two parent family back?

We bring the two parent family back by sistas learning how to be good wives. Refrain from sex until marriage, submit unto your husbands, and always be cheerful of speech. :)

Of course black women have a part in this as well, because it seems to be no big deal for black women to have children out of wedlock without the benefit of marriage, I think the welfare system aided in this concept, because welfare made it easy for the woman to say I dont need a man, I can just have a baby and go get a check. Not thinking or caring what kind of life they would be bringing that child into. While I personally dont agree with this practice, I will not agree with your statement that black girls and women dont deserve to be respected. Sure there are some who dont, but there are plenty who do.

LOL It's a LOT more than "some" who don't. Like the BIBLE says, good women are RARE! Of course, RESPECTABLE black women like the late Coretta Scott King, Rosa Parks, intelligent black women, and good black wives and mothers deserve respect, but brothas don't need to respect every whore, lesbian, ignorant, disrespectful, foul mouthed shrew on the steets!


So given the present status of the way things are, what is your suggestion on getting black men and women interested in the institution of marriage and raising families together?

Simple. All they need do is stop listening to the WHITE MAN("Sex In The City", "Desperate Housewives", etc), and start listening to GOD! :)

[Blackman7]

brothas don't need to respect every whore, lesbian, ignorant, disrespectful, foul mouthed shrew on the steets!

Of course, I respect even THOSE types of women.

I wouldn't MARRY em', but i'll give them RESPECT! ;) :) :cool:

[ssjup81]

Why is it that everytime WOMEN do something evil, they're assumed to be "sick"? Why can't they just be EVIL? No one says that John List was "sick" for killing his children, his wife, and his mother.I would. I felt the man had mental problems. I don't see how any person could murder anyone, especially your family, and "innocent" children.

[Blackman7]

I guess you respect a no good woman in the same way you respect a rattlesnake. You keep them at a distance because you know they're deadly and dangerous.

[SirNoseDevo]

actually, that post is to everyone. and I know how to use a forum quote reply...........watch.

you see, I will quote your question.

but I proposed that to everyone, since everyone is bringing up very good points, but not calling spade a spade.
and the entire racial issue is not even the ingredients of the cake. that's a planned, Illuminati distraction. so while "we," because I'm one who wants equal rights for all, are distracted by people like Michael Richards, who's a 32 degree Mason, the people who have taken over the U.S. Gov't are bringing forth the North American Union and taking people's land with imminent domain, in order to build a highway stretching from Mexico to Canada. you do know Bush passed a presidential order which gives him dictatorship in a "emergency" right?

:) Okay Killuminati I see and understand. I am one who can accept
correction without getting a cyberitude.

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

[Blackman7]

I would. I felt the man had mental problems. I don't see how any person could murder anyone, especially your family, and "innocent" children.

That's because you're not evil, but there are MANY wicked people here in Satan's world.

Yes, I too believed that John List was sick to a POINT, and that point is, he claimed to be a "religious" man, so he should have known that killing is against God. (Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill)

[ssjup81]

Yes, I too believed that John List was sick to a POINT, and that point is, he claimed to be a "religious" man, so he should have known that killing is against God. (Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill)Now this I always had a problem with. I'm glad you brought that up. I don't see how any man or woman can say that he/she is an actual Christian, but "kill" in the name of God, which is a contradiction of both man's law and god's. That's why I have a major problem with stuff like the Crusades.

Wasn't John List found in Central Virginia after being on America's Most Wanted? I was very young when he was caught, but I know my parents knew the story about him.

[Blackman7]

I'm not exactly sure of where he got caught, but it was because of "America's Most Wanted". A forensic sculpturer made an exact likeness of what they thought he would look like after all those years.

[Athena]

I have a question. How many of you on this board have actually volunteered to just take one of our youth under your wing? How many of you volunteer to tutor at inner-city schools so that just one boy or girl can actually realize the difference an education makes?

I have been doing this for years. Nothing gives me more satisfaction than receiviing a letter or a visit from one of these kids when they start college. I am actually starting to cry while I type this. If you have never done this -- you will never know the inner joy and satisfaction that you receive when you see a former kid doing well when otherwise they may have not had a chance.

Some of these kids do have good parents or at least a good mother. Perhaps that mother cannot read and really can't help her child or she just doesn't have the funds to get a tutor for a child that does show potential but is caught up everything that is going around him/her.

Take that child to a play, to a museum, tutor that child -- we can make a difference even if only one at a time. So don't complain, make a sincere effort to reach back and grab one of those kids.

I did because someone did it for me.

[ssjup81]

I'm not exactly sure of where he got caught, but it was because of "America's Most Wanted". A forensic sculpturer made an exact likeness of what they thought he would look like after all those years.It was Richmond, Virginia. My mom was saying how well she remember the case, and how "close to home" it was, since we were in Richmond at that time.

[ssjup81]

I have a question. How many of you on this board have actually volunteered to just take one of our youth under your wing? How many of you volunteer to tutor at inner-city schools so that just one boy or girl can actually realize the difference an education makes?I actually want to do that, but seems that one need certain credentials just to do so. I've been looking into Boys & Girls clubs in the area. I just wish I could afford to do more since, for my area, I'd have to drive a lot, and with no source of income, it's difficult to drive around when needed. With me now, unless you pay me to drive you, or if I have a job interview, I don't go anyplace.

[mochabiznswm]

This really saddens me especially being a blessed mother of five sons and no girls! I pour my soul into my boys, their education their spirit and their soul as a black male! As I marched in Jena I thought this could be my five boys and my nephew to make the 6th one, I say to you women first of all stop pouring all of that energy into that baby daddy or that drama and give first of all to yourself then your boys! It is not the fault of society totally from my observation I see SOME black women will write their sons off and throw them to the hellhounds but give sorry Jodi time after time just to keep her personal needs satisfied.This problem is rooted a lot deeper than blaming the other man, no... daddy may not be there but you know what, be the best woman you can be!!He may have a little understanding as far as manhood for a short while but don't let him remain as a total lost soul just because of the fact you are a woman, give him the foundation, pray and let God do the rest! To the brothers that have a spare moment take them under your wing they may not be your biological but we are the same BLOODLINE, we need everyone to step up; churches,schools and communities but in the event they don't make up your mind and say that regardless I will do me and do my part!! Generation Lost needs us ya'll, God Bless!!

[mochabiznswm]

Great question!!! I ask the same thing, who actually takes the time to make a difference, I do!! I own several businesses and I take the kids as well as the mothers under my wing, I allow them to work in my office sometimes to make extra change,I mentor the mothers that are usually my employees, I just want everyone else to get on board, I really admire people that at least try. I do so much and sometimes I am told that my heart is too big but you know what no one did it for me as a young abandoned 14 year old girl and I promised God if he ever allowed me to become financially able I would give back and thank God he proved his word and I am keeping mine! I thank God for people like you!I feel for the Generation Lost and I pray that we will someday wake up and realize the ball is in "OUR" court we need to look inside at the problem before we critique others!

[kantewaite]

Please donot despair or give up on ourselves,we must resolve to start where we stand (ie) our communities find places like churches,centers,local officials or just those of like minds and begin to come together and give our young the information that will lead them to understand and imbrace the life styles that will take us all to where we must go,That is "DO FOR SELF"it is not impossible!

[enpowermentnow]

:) Okay Killuminati I see and understand. I am one who can accept
correction without getting a cyberitude.

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

thank you brother killuminati I did some research on the Illuminati and this is what I found very interesting

THE REALITY YOU HAVE YET TO REALIZE
By Amon Hotep ©2006

> >If you have read either of my previous two essays posted on this site, then
> >you have a thorough understanding of just how and why white people are
> >merely inbred mutant albinos. Now that we have a good understanding of what
> >they are, let us have a better understanding of what they are doing and
> >have been doing for a very long time. As I said in the beginning of a
> >previous essay, Orthodox history as we know it is a lie. Let us focus on
> >one of my assertions for just one moment. I previously stated in my essay
> >“What white people don’t want you to understand” that white people have
> >only rediscovered or reinvented technology that was originally invented by
> >our ancient ancestors who were black Africans.
> >
> >In inner circles, this “reinventing or rediscovering” is commonly referred
> >to as reverse-engineering. Deep in antiquity, there did exist a prehistoric
> >super-civilization that was far more advanced technologically than we are
> >today. Some of the spacecraft/aircraft, that existed back then that may
> >have crashed during some ancient reconnaissance or war, has been recovered
> >by the powers that be and they have been proceeding to reverse engineer
> >various portions of that downed ancient craft. They have been reverse
> >engineering everything from the propulsion system to the electronic
> >capabilities of other parts and components of the craft. It is common
> >knowledge in some circles that AT&T Bell Laboratories has been credited
> >with the development of the transistor, however in reality what they have
> >done is reverse engineer that technology from an ancient crashed
> >aircraft/spacecraft. They like to refer to those craft as “crashed ET
> >spacecraft”. However that carries a connotation that non-humans created and
> >manufactured those craft when in reality they are human created and
> >manufactured craft but was created and manufactured deep in antiquity
> >before white people existed within the context that we understand them
> >today. This goes on to say that many of the so called modern amenities that
> >white people take pride in crediting themselves with developing and
> >inventing, they really did not invent.
> >
> >They only reverse engineered it from ancient artifacts or machines and took
> >credit for it. One major lie was that the Wright Brothers developed the
> >concept of flight. They were only credited with it. They really got the
> >secret of flight from reverse engineering one of the downed ancient air
> >craft/spacecraft. What they also don’t want to tell you is that when they
> >recover these crashed ancient aircraft, often from archeological digs, they
> >find the remains of black people in there as pilots, not “greys” or other
> >aliens that they want to lead you to believe. Forensic evidence will
> >confirm that!
> >
> >Nicola Tesla is another name you may or may not be familiar with. He is
> >known for the rediscovery of many ancient technologies that are only now
> >beginning to resurface. One program that I would like to bring to your
> >attention is HAARP. HAARP stands for High Frequency Active Auroral
> >Research Program. It is jointly funded by the United States Air Force, Navy
> >and University of Alaska. It is said that the project is similar to
> >numerous existing ionospheric heaters around the world, and has a large
> >suite of diagnostic instruments that facilitate its use to increase
> >scientific understanding of ionospheric dynamics. It is rumored that this
> >program is behind weather modification and control.
> >
> >The Illuminati, the real power controlling the Bush Administration, have
> >had their front organizations perfecting this technology for decades. With
> >their manipulations of the ionosphere, they can create tornados,
> >hurricanes, torrential rain fall and most anything else they want at will.
> >It is widely speculated now that it was the Illuminati behind hurricanes
> >Katrina and Rita as well as the tsunami that devastated Indonesia in
> >December 2004. What people have to understand is a lot that we like to
> >think are natural disasters and catastrophes are actually man made and done
> >deliberately to further the Illuminati agenda which ultimately is global
> >depopulation. They just keep this technology suppressed so that no one
> >would readily believe that all the devastation is actually man made.
> >
> >Going back to the origin of Caucasians once more, white people are called
> >Caucasian because they had supposed origins in the Caucasus Mountains of
> >Russia. They were initially placed there by ancient black Africans because
> >they were disrupting black civilization. Have you ever wondered how Europe
> >got that name? Because our ancestors sent barbaric white people to the
> >Caucasus Mountains and roped them off with a great wall. It is commonly
> >referred to as the Caucasian Wall or the “Alexander Wall” although
> >Alexander the great had nothing to do with its construction. Legend has it
> >that the wall was 666 miles in circumference and that is really how the
> >white devils, as the Muslims in the civilization south of the Caucasus
> >Mountains referred to the barbaric white people, came to associate “666”
> >with the devil. They managed to break past that wall and attack the black
> >civilizations to the south and the rest is history. The religion of Islam
> >teaches much of this per Elijah Muhammad. Based on many facts and
> >historical evidence as brought forward in Paul Lawrence Guthrie’s book “The
> >Making of the Whiteman”, Islam is actually closer to historical fact than
> >most people would like to think, and this is what troubles Caucasians. This
> >is the real reason behind this WAR ON ISLAM!
> >
> >Another Illuminati front organization is the Centers for Disease Control or
> >as some like to describe them, the Centers for Deception and Corruption.
> >Not only are they responsible for the development and proliferation of HIV
> >and AIDS but also SARS, this new Bird Flu Pandemic on the horizon, and
> >another strange disease becoming an epidemic in California, Texas and
> >Florida called Morgellons Disease. Have you noticed an epidemic in Diabetes
> >going around the world lately? yep, you guessed it. Deliberate
> >proliferation by the FDA (another Illuminati front organization) trying to
> >make money for the pharmaceutical industry at the expense of innocent
> >people’s health world wide. One catalyst for doing this is the sweetener
> >Aspartame placed in many diet products from sodas to chewing gum. Be
> >careful, Depleted Uranium has a connection with the global diabetes
> >epidemic as well. This is all pretty much spelled out in something called
> >the secret covenant, they, the Illuminati live by, you can read it at this
> >link:
> >
> > http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/illuminati/secret_covenant.htm
> >
> >It goes into explicit detail of just what the powers that be have been up
> >to for a very long time and continue to get over doing. Are you familiar
> >with Chemtrails? Those strange crisscross patterns that are produced from
> >the exhaust of Airplanes are serving the Illuminati agenda as well. They
> >are secretly coating your lungs with a man made cocktail that is making you
> >more receptive to the Bird Flu virus once it is finally released en mass to
> >the global population. The cocktail reaches you when it rains as a result
> >of their Chemtrail spraying. You ask why are white people (The Illuminati)
> >doing all of this? Remember from my past essays that white people being
> >genetic defects cannot reproduce like normal people, while their birthrate
> >plummets, people of color’s birthrates skyrocket. They have to kill off
> >people of color while at the same time rectify their poor population
> >efforts by cloning themselves which is disguised as stem cell research.
> >They want to reduce the present world population of 6 billion people to
> >about 100 to 500 million. This includes killing off many white people as
> >well.
> >
> >They give themselves secret vaccinations or genetically engineered
> >mutations to make themselves immune to their poisons at the same time
> >giving the rest of the population vaccinations that will make them more
> >receptive to whatever genocidal virus they decide to release to kill off
> >the masses. The truth is all over the Internet. That is why there is a
> >movement taking place right now to censor the Internet and the truth that
> >is widely exposed. You can bet your bottom dollar that the real reason we
> >are at war in Iraq is because of the discovery of an ancient Sumerian
> >artifact that once becomes widespread will cause a shift in consciousness.
> >It will confirm white people are only black people’s genetic defects and
> >freaks of nature and that white people aren’t the supreme race that they
> >lie about. Remember Iraq is the site of ancient Mesopotamia, there is a lot
> >that the Jewish media isn’t telling you! All of this is merely the tip of
> >the iceberg of what secret clandestine operations the United States
> >government and other world governments controlled by the Illuminati have
> >going on. It is all going on right under your nose and you didn’t even
> >realize it. You can read more about the Illuminate with the following link:
> >http://www.illuminati-news.com/shadow-gov.htm
> >
> >
> >Don’t forget about the RFID chips that are becoming popular with helping to
> >find pets these days. The Illuminati’s ultimate goal is to chip every man
> >woman and child on planet Earth for control purposes. Now that you have
> >been clued in, you can take it upon yourself to not only discover that
> >black skin is the genetic parent and figure out what white people don’t
> >want you to understand, but finally determine the reality you have yet to
> >realize.
> >
> >
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[SexyV]

I agree with the article, "AMERICA HAS LOST A GENERATION OF BLACK BOYS".
That's why from the beggining I taught my son and explained to him how the world is what he has to do to get ahead. My son Dominic is a senior in high shool, he also in the engineer academy in shool. He plans on going to college to become an engineer. My son plays sports and he knows the reality of not being a professional footballplayer or any professional sport. All you have to do is teach your children and instill in them facts.I hear all the time that children of single parent households will fail. Incorrect because my son is one of the exception. He does well in school, he don't hang in the streets, he doesn't smoke, use drugs or alchol. I pray for the well being of my son everyday because he has a lot of barriers to knock, but I know he will succeed. I almost forgot he lives in the inner city so don't think its impossible to become someone great because black youth can be great and my son a 17 year old black male will be that someone.

[SexyV]

Reply to grenetta b's never say there is nothing you can't do


I AGREE 100%!!!!

[SexyV]

Dcdc You Sound Crazy I'm A Single Parent And My Child Is OF One The Exception, Because There Are Many That Grow Up And Become Successful, from A Single Parent Home.

[SexyV]

Then all black girls and women better be WORTHY of respect! Not many boys are gonna respect a drunk or ignorant slut.

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Is THIS black woman "worthy of respect"???

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/10/cleveland_police_prepare_to_ch.html

Cleveland Police charge woman in deaths of children

Posted by Gabriel Baird October 02, 2007 13:33PM

Cleveland officials charged a woman with two counts of aggravated murder today accusing her of drowning her daughters: Cecess Hill, 2, and Jannelle Cintron, 4.


Amber Hill, 22, is in City Jail. Police think she may be suicidal, according to reports.

Cuyahoga County Coroner Frank Miller ruled the deaths homicides after an autopsy today. Detectives said earlier in the day that once the deaths were ruled homicides, they would go to prosecutors and ask that the woman be charged with murder.

Police sees the case as clear cut.

Commander Ed Tomba, who oversees the homicide unit, said that officers observed physical evidence at the hospital pointing to the children being intentionally drowned. He declined to elaborate on this evidence. Officers found no scratches or other wounds on Hill that would indicate a struggle with the kids, he said.

However, two neighbors, who heard the ruckus, have given statements to police and so has the girls' father, Jaimie Cintron, 23.

He told police that Hill called him at work about 12:30 p.m. and said the children were "resting at peace," police said. He raced home to the family's apartment in the Community Apartments in the 7700 block of Woodland Avenue. The complex is not owned by the Cuyahoga Metropolitan Housing Authority as previously reported.

Cintron went on to tell police that when he got home, he confronted Hill, then found the children motionless in the tub.

He called 9-1-1 but in his grief dispatchers found it nearly impossible to understand exactly what had happened other than that he needed an ambulance. He kept crying out, "Why!?! Why!?! Why!?!"

The children were taken to MetroHealth Medical Center and pronounced dead.

Hill initially refused to tell the police anything other than her name and date of birth. However, after she was taken to the Justice Center, she became somewhat more cooperative.

Tomba declined to discuss her statement. He did, however, say, that she did not blame what had happened on her being a past victim of domestic violence.

Cleveland Municipal Court records show that Cintron was convicted of domestic violence in 2006. Bedford Municipal Court records show he was placed on probation in 2004 after pleading no contest and being found guilty of domestic violence. Hill was the victim in both cases.

In the 2006 case, Hill told police that Cintron choked her then broke her television with a hammer.

Details of the Bedford case were not immediately available.

Drowning is a very rare method of killing someone. Cuyahoga County Coroner's records show no drowning deaths ruled homicides in the last five years.

Tomba has overseen the homicide unit during that time.

"We've never had anything like this," he said.

"This is really, really disturbing," Tomba said. "These kids were at the hand of their mother, someone that they trusted very much."
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Anyone who thinks that "ALL black women should be respected", has a LOT to learn about life!!!!

Blackman7 why are you so angry at black women

[SexyV]

I am a Family Protection Investigator that sees on the daily bases
Court Appointed Lawyers telling clients to do a plead. To me this
is a form of unfair Justice. Especially for a first time offender, and
the name of the game is about money.

Also here in Michigan we have laws that's under the Mental Health
by-laws & guidelines that regulates people with mental disorders
who commit a so-called crime, and most victims with a mental health
issue are the most individuals who generally get caught up in the
justice system.

Patients Rights is what regulates what's good or bad for people
with a mental disability. A person also have the rights to switch
lawyers IF they are not being served properly. Maureen, I suggest
that you contact your local mental health office to find out more
details concerning what went down in court with your Son, and
if you should have a problem take it to the state level.

However, I have had cases whereas the Mother commits a criminal
act against their child, and they play the I have a mental disorder
to receive a lighter sentence. Sometimes when I am involved in a
case like that I file a complaint requesting a complete intake be
done on the client, and then kicked back into court.

Only a narrow minded one sided thinker would come up with a thread
topic.....America Has Losted A Generation of Black Boys. They're in
the O-Zone when it comes to rap music, and that's because some
hardcore rap talks about the hardship of a Black man in society. Now
many fears that Gangster Rap is destorying Blacks. Well I am here
to say Gangster Rap is a white boy's thang too. So what the hell is
a White Boys problem wanting to look,sound,and act Black?

So America isn't just losing the Black generation, but it seems to be
including the White generation as well, and if society wants to point
at someone point at the White boys too.

YOU ARE RIGHT WHITE KIDS BUY MORE RAP THAN BLACK KIDS.

[ssjup81]

Just last week, when we were doing our grocery shopping, we heard someone blasting rap music loud. We were expecting to see someone young, but we saw what looked to be a middle-aged white woman in the car, bopping her head to the music. I was surprised, as was my mother, because we'd never seen a person that age (white) listening to that type of music. Young whites and blacks and Spanish, yeah, but never older.

That just goes to show that rap isn't purchased and listened to primarily by blacks or young blacks, but by whites as well.

[SexyV]

ssjup81 they are they ones who buy it the most and they buy their children violent video games.

[SexyV]

Blackman7 did you a have bad experience with black woman, was it you wife, mother, sister, aunt, because you have a lot of anger in you.

[Blackman7]

No, I am not angry. True words are not fine-sounding; fine-sounding words are not true.

I have heard of MANY "crimes of passion" that probably never would have happened if the men stayed away from their kids and their foolish babies mothers.

To "capture" a man, Satan often gets him through the people he loves.

A friend of mine told me that the family in the following story was black. Whatever their race, it is a terrible tragedy.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-threedead_13met.ART0.North.Edition1.42a5cf2.html

Suspect in triple slaying kills self after standoff

Police say man fatally shot wife, 2 children before standoff in Arlington neighborhood

12:00 AM CDT on Saturday, October 13, 2007

By HOLLY YAN and DEBRA DENNIS / The Dallas Morning News

A man suspected of fatally shooting his wife and two of her children drove his car into Lake Arlington and killed himself Friday night with police in pursuit.

Police had surrounded the man earlier in the 3300 block of Carter Drive in East Arlington for more than six hours before he unexpectedly fled and shot himself.

Police had sealed off an area surrounding that block, and shotgun-wielding officers crouched behind squad cars. The man, believed to have been armed with a handgun, had parked in a driveway.

Police evacuated three blocks of houses, and nearby Lynn Hale Elementary School was placed in lockdown. Children eventually were allowed to leave from the back of the building and were escorted by police about 300 yards to their parents, Arlington school district spokeswoman Veronica Sopher said.

Authorities did not immediately identify the man, but Tarrant County property records and a baby sitter for the children identified him as Arthur Jackson, 32, of Fort Worth. The dead woman is believed to be his wife of three years, Lisa Jackson, 36. The dead children are believed to be Tyson Adams, 7, and Jaelynn Ford, 13, and are not thought to be Mr. Jackson's.

Fort Worth police Lt. Dan Draper said the incident began about noon Friday when a man dropped a 3-year-old girl off at Mayfield Road Baptist Church in Arlington. The girl was covered in blood but was uninjured. The man told people at the church he had committed a crime in Fort Worth, and police were called.

The 3-year-old was identified as Ariana Jackson, Mr. and Mrs. Jackson's only child together.

"The wife of his first cousin works at the day-care center at the church," said John Hall, news director for the Baptist General Convention of Texas. "He dropped the baby off with her."

A woman who answered the door at the church Friday said that no one was available to comment and that the girl was no longer at the church.

Arlington police spokesman Lt. Blake Miller said police received information that the man was headed toward Carter Drive.

"We were just working a call of a man dropping off a child at the church. ... I'm not aware of why [he chose] this location," he said.

When the man stopped on Carter Drive, he refused to get out of his vehicle, Lt. Miller said. The SWAT team responded, along with the department's new armored personnel carrier.

"The suspect stated he had just killed some people and he was going to kill some more," said Christy Gilfour, Arlington police spokeswoman.

The two sides continued communicating into the night several ways, mainly by cellphone.

Meanwhile, Fort Worth police spent Friday trying to figure what led to the violence they found at a home in the 2100 block of Mims Street. There, authorities found the bodies of Ms. Jackson, a pharmacist, and her children.

Fort Worth police said they had been called to the home twice in the last month – once in September by Mr. Jackson, who said he feared the children were home alone, and then on Oct. 5 by his wife, who said her estranged husband was ringing the doorbell and knocking on the door.

Neighbor Kaye Miles said she was acquainted with the parents but knew the children better because they were often outside playing ball or riding their bikes.

"I knew them because they were good kids," Ms. Miles said. "If I was outside, they would wave and come by and talk to me."

Ms. Miles said she knew of no disturbances at the home and said the street was generally quiet.

"This really upsets me to think that those children had to lose their life because an adult couldn't take care of his life," she said.

But Joyce Knight of Fort Worth, who said she began baby-sitting all three children in August of last year, knew trouble was brewing. She said Ms. Jackson was a private person, but about two weeks ago she asked Ms. Knight whether she knew the name of a lawyer because she planned to get a divorce.

Ms. Knight called Ms. Jackson a great caretaker for her children.

"Their mother, Lisa – you couldn't ask for a better parent," Ms. Knight said. "I don't know what went wrong."

[SirNoseDevo]

I have a question. How many of you on this board have actually volunteered to just take one of our youth under your wing? How many of you volunteer to tutor at inner-city schools so that just one boy or girl can actually realize the difference an education makes?

I raised my own three children alone, and now as a Child Protection
Investigation worker I have more children even if they don't belong
to me. So to answer your under the wing question you have my
answer above. Not only do I protect children from abusive parents or
a situation. I am the Founder of the Love Children With Kindness Club.
Which has a membership roll of 5 area Churchs members, and a countless
of Community parents who do take the time to tutor in the Schools.

Or sponsor Educational field trips to places of interest, and I am so
thankful that these individuals are not boostful or expect a pat on
the back...they do it from the heart. Now since you asked a question.
how many hours or days do you volunteer?

People are experts at questioning others about what they do,
but fail to talk about their involvement, and I am interested to
hear about your experience volunteering to help Black children.

However, I do have a big problem with these United States
charity organizations supporting children oversees, and we
have dying children right here in America that needs food,
healthcare,Clothing, and a education. These organizations can
file for a big income tax rebate at the end of their fasical year
or at tax time.

As a matter of fact the organization that I belong to do support
a mission in Africa that's owned by Blacks, operated by Blacks,
and they are caregivers in many nations of Africa.
That's why this thread's topic is old and is fading out, due to the
fact that its only focusing on Blacks, and where is the topic about
the white generation being in worse shape then some of us Blacks?

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

[filmoredollar]

Just last week, when we were doing our grocery shopping, we heard someone blasting rap music loud. We were expecting to see someone young, but we saw what looked to be a middle-aged white woman in the car, bopping her head to the music. I was surprised, as was my mother, because we'd never seen a person that age (white) listening to that type of music. Young whites and blacks and Spanish, yeah, but never older.

That just goes to show that rap isn't purchased and listened to primarily by blacks or young blacks, but by whites as well.

85-90% of rap music is purchased by whites and other races of people other than blacks. In fact most artist make their money in upscale white markets and in Erope. I have a rapper friend who sells more records in Germany than in America and black america accounts for almost none of his sales.

[SirNoseDevo]

There is two different styles of rap music, and Kid Rock along with
other white rappers are clonies of Black music. I have white friends
who tries to rap, but rapping has always been a Black thing, and
just because my white friends put records out do not mean that
Blacks have to buy their cds.

White music will never take the place of Black music, and I guess
many of you are wondering why I said that. Well, Blacks was born
with a voice to sing, and doing my music career I know of ONLY a
few whites who really had a soulful sound.

Sure whites buy rap music by black artists, but how many blacks
buy white rappers music?, and the fact that Black youth is into
Gangster Rap because they can relate to the hardship in the Black
communities of America.

Like the question concerning White people understanding crisis in
Black America. Many whites do not know what its like to struggle
everyday, but they seem to think that they know our styles, dances,
and yet they are still hung up onto racism.

Again, Why there's nobody seems to be concerned about the bull****
that white American youth is causing, but a statement can be made
about America has lost a generation of Black young men (not Boys),
and believe me I know that there good & bad in both races.

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

[barbaraoe]

This is an excellent article. We have, as a country and as a community have let our Black boys down. So many of these Black boys' fathers are incarcerated or just do not take the time to help them grow into men. I have two sons who both stand taller than me. My husband, whom is now deceased helped me raise my two sons. Both sons got involved with the law, even though my husband was in the home. I will not and do not criticise a woman whom is raising children alone. What I am advocating is that these women demand the fathers assume responsibility for the children. I think one of the reasons that we are not dealing with our young Black is fear. People are actually afraid of these children. We cannot let fear be our guiding force. I see gangs of Black boys each day and I know that eventually most of them will end up in jail. It is not because they are doing something wrong, it is because they are here. The Black community is lacking Black fathers. What in the world happen to our men? How can our Black men consider themselves men when they will not even be there for their children? Our Black community has gotten soft. When I was growing up, the entire community watched to see what the children were doing. These days, if someone else says something to another person's child, parents are in the streets fighting. We have to stop this genocide. This society is killing our young Black males. People want to blame hip-hop and gangster rap, but this demise was happening before those jaundras came into play. Black women can raise black boys to be men, but they cannot teach them to be men. Black boys need men to teach them to be men. Even when the child's father is in prison, I suggest that the child is encouraged to see his father, if nothing else, the father can advise his son why he does not want to be imprisoned. And our Black men have to shoulder a large part of this responsibility. You helped create this child. It does not matter if you have moved on, the child is still here. My sisters, if your man has a child from another relationship, you have to encourage him to provide for and help raise that child. We adults have to stop being selfish, thinking about our own hurt and disappointment. It is no longer all about us. We are looking at our children dying in the streets everyday. If our relationships do not work out, we cannot use our children as pawns. Black women in our community must demand that the fathers of these young Black males take responsibility. So many women will say that the father does not want to be bothered with the child, but sometimes, we have to take drastic action. The father won't come get the child, drop him off. Let him explain why he is not dealing with his son. The father won't call, pick up the telephone, let him explain to the child why he does not call. We, as Black women have let Black men off too easy. They have to accept the responsibility of helping to raise our young Black males. We as Black women should not accept anything less than that.

[SirNoseDevo]

Why would you criticize who raise their children alone? You
really shot one by me there. What I have been advocating
for 29 years is for Mothers to assume their roles as a Mother,
and STOP running off abanding their children with the Father.

Being afraid for a children? hahaha that's a joke. If a parent is
afraid to train their children, due to the fact that sparing the
rod might make them hate (then the parent needs the rod),
and believe me back in the days that I was coming up Parents
believed in allowing the Neighbor to spare the rod.

Barbaraoe; I do not know where you was raised, but in todays
social NOT ALL gang members ends up in Jail, and as a Child
Protection Investigator I have seen gang members finishing
High School with some going on to become Law Enforcement
Officers.

You keep jumping up and down about Where is the Fathers? Where
is the Mothers? You have failed to realize that (just maybe) if
Parents,GrandParents,Aunts, and Uncles would stay out of the
relationships things might work. I can't really comment on Where
have the Black Fathers or men have gone, but I can say that to
me it looks like all of our Black women seem to have a white man,
and don't give me that bull by blaming everything on us Black men.

If the Black women and young girls would stay out the crack house,
and start watching out for their children there might would be better
results.

Even when the child's father is in prison, I suggest that the child is encouraged to see his father, if nothing else, the father can advise his son why he does not want to be imprisoned. And our Black men have to shoulder a large part of this responsibility

Come on Now let's get real Barbara. If a man can't see his child
when he's not in prison...what makes you think that a Mother
would want the Child to see the Father behind bars?

My Sisters? What about My Brothers, If a woman should have a
child from another relationship? The same should reply to both
Brothers & Sisters. Encourage the Mother to allow the Child to know
his or her Father or Mother (depends on the situation). There is a
bunch of single-Fathers out thhere who raised their Child(ren) alone,
and Black Brothers must demand that the Mothers of their child(ren)
should take responsibility of helping to be concerned about the Child
(rens) well-being. Many Mother have ran from the responsibility of
being a Mother.

Again, this is a two-way streets Sisters & Brothers. We (Brothers)
have let the Mothers get away, and yet we are being labeled as
the bad ones...Right Barbaraoe? After reading what Barbaraoe had
wrote Brothers we all know that she has a bee out against Black men,
and yet there is Women (Mothers) who is doing the same thing that
they are accusing Men of Doing.

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

[SexyV]

All I have to say is that black men need to step up to the plate and be fathers to their children. Black women need to stop using thier children as pawns to get the fathers to do what they want. Everyone as a whole, should put forth and effort for the sake of our children( male, female) and things will get a lot better. RESPECTING ONE ANOTHER IS THE KEY.

[nurse1]

Jailings, shootings, lynchings, My BLACK CHILD was IN an ALL WHITE CLASS and was FORCED TO CLEAN TOILET in his public school bathroom AFTER ACCUSED BY WHITE STUDENT OF DIRTYING TOILET. TEACHER MADE my son who was KINDERGARTEN CLEAN TOILET AND FLOOR WITH OUT GLOVES. he was not GIVEN any NO DUE PROCESS. What are our legislatures doing about all this going on around the country. Our sons and daughters are under seized. Even the ACLU has noticed the national trend.

Read their article. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is committed to challenging the "school to prison pipeline," a disturbing national trend wherein children, disproportionately children of color, are being funneled out of public schools and into the juvenile and criminal justice systems. Many of these children are the most vulnerable, with learning disabilities or histories of poverty, abuse or neglect, and should receive additional educational services rather than isolation and punishment.
Several policy trends in the public education and juvenile justice systems are to blame for this nationwide epidemic. First, the trend toward "zero-tolerance" policies criminalizing minor instances of school misconduct plays a vital role in pushing our children out of public schools. These zero-tolerance policies often result in children being suspended, expelled or arrested for relatively minor disciplinary infractions. The criminalization of school code violations funnels many children into the juvenile justice system instead of addressing misbehavior through parents, teachers and school administrators. The application of discipline is often discriminatory, with minority students being disciplined and referred to the juvenile justice system at higher rates than their white peers. In some cases, children are directly arrested for school code violations, and in others, they are sent to alternative schools for children with behavioral problems.
Second, schools increasingly ignore and bypass due process protections for children, particularly those with special needs and learning disabilities, in sending these children to alternative schools and the juvenile justice system. Children often receive no or deficient legal representation to aid them in challenging charges resulting from school code violations. Many of the juvenile detention facilities in which they serve sentences provide few, if any, educational services. Third, various policy initiatives, including the No Child Left Behind Act, place an undue emphasis on high stakes testing, which creates incentives for schools to push out low performing students in order to boost their overall test scores and avoid facing federal penalties. Also in an attempt to avoid NCLB Act-related penalties, some school districts fail to report accurate graduation rates that accurately account for students who dropped out or were channeled into the juvenile justice system. These practices distort the reality that large numbers of minority children are being undereducated and displaced from the public education system.
The ACLU is working to challenge numerous policies and practices within public school systems and the juvenile justice system that contribute to the school to prison pipeline

So why does George think we don't need a village because a village didn't make the child? How ridiculous. Just because someone makes a baby whether they are a teen or an adult does not mean they are fit parents. Some parents have nothing to offer that child spiritually, intellectually, nor able to provide resources that it may take to raise that child appropriately. There are many children making babies and their babies themselves. Thats definetly a call for the village, the pastors, the grandmothers, aunts, uncles, brother, sisters to come in and help this child to provide what this child will need to become a wholesome and productive adult. Everyone doesn't have resources or parents and live in such a perfect environment of those who got it like that. Be thankful if you have parents and love and respect and decent roof over your head. The reality is also that some children are fending for themselves and raising themselves are they still not deserving of love, protection and helping hand to survive. My God are we that out of touch.

All children are deserving of protection and love whether they are facing jail or not. The student was man-handled, thrown On a table wrist broken by security and the child forced to cleain the toilet with his bare hands under the seat and on top, and definetly the younglady who was choked by her prinicipal. Well what about the 14 year old that was totured and murdered by the officers in Florida. We killed Saddam for in humane acts of violence against man kind and look what we are doing right here in America. What hipocrisy.

There needs to be more laws and proctection available to all children they are also american citizens. These schools are allowing teachers and administrators to hide behind sovereign immunity and get away with criminal behavior. Despite their socioeconomic levels, Black students begin school equally motivated and with test scores equal, some even higher, than those of White students. However, research shows that the longer they stay in school, the less motivated they become. And by the time they reach high school level many develop a total disinterest with education, fall behind, and subsequently drop out of school altogether. From elementary school to prison pipline we not only are creating the brightest but we are also killing their spirit and creating disilusional and kids who feel the need to protect themselves with guns. We need to wake up and really think about things for and see the big picture. OUR children are under seized. I would like to add when your shopping for the holidays please check out our website that is donated to a legal defense fund for all children facing injustice whether they are facing jail or not. The shopping page is linked to just about every store in America and even Travel, pet gifts, flowers, etc and most shipping is free. So if your going to shop anyway it might as well go towards a good cause. God bless. www.communityactions.org or http://www.krymus.com/3416-communityactioncoalition. well God Bless and keep the village moving

Michelle Vann
nurse1cac@yahoo.com

[nurse1]

Jailings, shootings, lynchings, My BLACK CHILD was IN an ALL WHITE CLASS and was FORCED TO CLEAN TOILET in his public school bathroom AFTER ACCUSED BY WHITE STUDENT OF DIRTYING TOILET. TEACHER MADE my son who was KINDERGARTEN CLEAN TOILET AND FLOOR WITH OUT GLOVES. he was not GIVEN any NO DUE PROCESS. What are our legislatures doing about all this going on around the country. Our sons and daughters are under seized. Even the ACLU has noticed the national trend.

Read their article. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is committed to challenging the "school to prison pipeline," a disturbing national trend wherein children, disproportionately children of color, are being funneled out of public schools and into the juvenile and criminal justice systems. Many of these children are the most vulnerable, with learning disabilities or histories of poverty, abuse or neglect, and should receive additional educational services rather than isolation and punishment.
Several policy trends in the public education and juvenile justice systems are to blame for this nationwide epidemic. First, the trend toward "zero-tolerance" policies criminalizing minor instances of school misconduct plays a vital role in pushing our children out of public schools. These zero-tolerance policies often result in children being suspended, expelled or arrested for relatively minor disciplinary infractions. The criminalization of school code violations funnels many children into the juvenile justice system instead of addressing misbehavior through parents, teachers and school administrators. The application of discipline is often discriminatory, with minority students being disciplined and referred to the juvenile justice system at higher rates than their white peers. In some cases, children are directly arrested for school code violations, and in others, they are sent to alternative schools for children with behavioral problems.
Second, schools increasingly ignore and bypass due process protections for children, particularly those with special needs and learning disabilities, in sending these children to alternative schools and the juvenile justice system. Children often receive no or deficient legal representation to aid them in challenging charges resulting from school code violations. Many of the juvenile detention facilities in which they serve sentences provide few, if any, educational services. Third, various policy initiatives, including the No Child Left Behind Act, place an undue emphasis on high stakes testing, which creates incentives for schools to push out low performing students in order to boost their overall test scores and avoid facing federal penalties. Also in an attempt to avoid NCLB Act-related penalties, some school districts fail to report accurate graduation rates that accurately account for students who dropped out or were channeled into the juvenile justice system. These practices distort the reality that large numbers of minority children are being undereducated and displaced from the public education system.
The ACLU is working to challenge numerous policies and practices within public school systems and the juvenile justice system that contribute to the school to prison pipeline

So why does George think we don't need a village because a village didn't make the child? How ridiculous. Just because someone makes a baby whether they are a teen or an adult does not mean they are fit parents. Some parents have nothing to offer that child spiritually, intellectually, nor able to provide resources that it may take to raise that child appropriately. There are many children making babies and their babies themselves. Thats definetly a call for the village, the pastors, the grandmothers, aunts, uncles, brother, sisters to come in and help this child to provide what this child will need to become a wholesome and productive adult. Everyone doesn't have resources or parents and live in such a perfect environment of those who got it like that. Be thankful if you have parents and love and respect and decent roof over your head. The reality is also that some children are fending for themselves and raising themselves are they still not deserving of love, protection and helping hand to survive. My God are we that out of touch.

All children are deserving of protection and love whether they are facing jail or not. The student was man-handled, thrown On a table wrist broken by security and the child forced to cleain the toilet with his bare hands under the seat and on top, and definetly the younglady who was choked by her prinicipal. Well what about the 14 year old that was totured and murdered by the officers in Florida. We killed Saddam for in humane acts of violence against man kind and look what we are doing right here in America. What hipocrisy.

There needs to be more laws and proctection available to all children they are also american citizens. These schools are allowing teachers and administrators to hide behind sovereign immunity and get away with criminal behavior. Despite their socioeconomic levels, Black students begin school equally motivated and with test scores equal, some even higher, than those of White students. However, research shows that the longer they stay in school, the less motivated they become. And by the time they reach high school level many develop a total disinterest with education, fall behind, and subsequently drop out of school altogether. From elementary school to prison pipline we not only are creating the brightest but we are also killing their spirit and creating disilusional and kids who feel the need to protect themselves with guns. We need to wake up and really think about things for and see the big picture. OUR children are under seized. I would like to add when your shopping for the holidays please check out our website that is donated to a legal defense fund for all children facing injustice whether they are facing jail or not. The shopping page is linked to just about every store in America and even Travel, pet gifts, flowers, etc and most shipping is free. So if your going to shop anyway it might as well go towards a good cause. God bless. www.communityactions.org or http://www.krymus.com/3416-communityactioncoalition. well God Bless and keep the village moving

Michelle Vann
nurse1cac@yahoo.com

[waylen38]

Why,all Of Sudden Do We Act Like Its Such A Surprise That The Black Male In America Is Lost. The Black Male In This Country Has Never Been Allowed To Find Hisself. In Public Schools We Learn About American History Without Ever Talking About The Contributions Of Blacks. We Spoon Feed The Poor An Inferior Education, Then Berate Them For Having It. Then, Like In Jena, We Allow Two Different Kinds Of Legal Systems To Be Ran,one For The Rich And One For The Poor,or In That Case One For Whites And One For Blacks. You Think The Kids Don't Smell The Stench Of Foulplay In This So Called Equal Society. In Most Inner City Schools The Kids Are Knowingly Taught With Outdated Materials In Overcrowded Classrooms. While In Surrounding Counties They Enjoy Advanced Materials In Correct Classroom Settings. Where Is The Equality America. We Tell These Black Boys To Respect Authority But Don't Tell The Authority To Respect Them. We Tell Them To Get Good Grades In School,then When They Graduate Tell Them Their Public School Education Is Not Good Enough. This Country Has Always Contradicted Itself Then Gets Mad Because The Kids See The Contradictions. I'll End It Like This Instead Of Getting Mad At Kids For Being Kids Get Mad At Teachers For Not Speaking Up,get Mad At Parents For Putting Personal Issues Before Children Well being,get Mad At Politicians For Not Correcting Obvious Problems In Its States, And Everything Else That Causes Kids To Do The Wrong Things They Do.

[uncdec01]

Here is an interview with Mychal's dad after Mychal was put in jail yet AGAIN :confused:


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[enpowermentnow]

I have a question. How many of you on this board have actually volunteered to just take one of our youth under your wing? How many of you volunteer to tutor at inner-city schools so that just one boy or girl can actually realize the difference an education makes?

I have been doing this for years. Nothing gives me more satisfaction than receiviing a letter or a visit from one of these kids when they start college. I am actually starting to cry while I type this. If you have never done this -- you will never know the inner joy and satisfaction that you receive when you see a former kid doing well when otherwise they may have not had a chance.

Some of these kids do have good parents or at least a good mother. Perhaps that mother cannot read and really can't help her child or she just doesn't have the funds to get a tutor for a child that does show potential but is caught up everything that is going around him/her.

Take that child to a play, to a museum, tutor that child -- we can make a difference even if only one at a time. So don't complain, make a sincere effort to reach back and grab one of those kids.

I did because someone did it for me.

I have coached little league, tutored, combed hair, fed the hungry. In every feat there was a quagmire of obstacles, however, lots of love

[ssjup81]

85-90% of rap music is purchased by whites and other races of people other than blacks. In fact most artist make their money in upscale white markets and in Erope. I have a rapper friend who sells more records in Germany than in America and black america accounts for almost none of his sales.Yeah I know. We weren't surprised by the race...we were surprised over the age of the listener.:pSure whites buy rap music by black artists, but how many blacks
buy white rappers music?, and the fact that Black youth is into
Gangster Rap because they can relate to the hardship in the Black
communities of America.I don't believe that entirely. I have cousins who are "black", of course, as am I, and they listen to "gangsta rap" [intolerable rap, imo...I don't like it and some other types of rap] and I wouldn't consider where they live the "projects". Nice houses and all.

My main problem with some rap music, is the way they're promoting how good it is to live in the projects as opposed to working your way out of it. My grandmother and I came across BET a while back and came across a music video about "being hood" or something, and they were glorifying it. "Being hood" doesn't get you a good job nor does "being hood" get you good grades in school so that you can better yourself and go to a college or university or a trade school, etc. To me, stuff like this is degrading to blacks, like all we want to do is play around or goof off. It's a terrible portrayal and I honestly didn't realize it was this bad now. Back in the late 80s, early 90s, rap was okay I guess, but now it seems really bad.

[jimmie musgrow]

Justice in America Family Court is unequal toward the non-custodian prents and most times it's the fathers who must pay for two house holds and not see their children. How can it be in the best intrest of our children if they are denied the right to be with their fathers. What happened to back youth in this county look at the Family Court System. Enough of this conversation about "DEAD BEAT DADS". After the family couart takes our parenting rights and money we are dead broke.
The family court is for the judges, attorneys, and the child enforement employees. Fthers pays for all these services, How is in the best intrest of our childlren if father are not alowed to parent thier childrlen. childrlen do better when both loving parents are part of thier lives. We need equal justice for our children, get work to change these laws to protect our children and our rigths as parnts.

[ssjup81]

Justice in America Family Court is unequal toward the non-custodian prents and most times it's the fathers who must pay for two house holds and not see their children. How can it be in the best intrest of our children if they are denied the right to be with their fathers. What happened to back youth in this county look at the Family Court System. Enough of this conversation about "DEAD BEAT DADS". After the family couart takes our parenting rights and money we are dead broke.To be honest, I always thought it was based on income anyway. If the father isn't making much, then they should pay what they can, but, they shouldn't go without paying anything.

I also thought that whenever a father pays anything, that the father is entitled and have a right to see where that money is going. Like in my aunt's case, her daughter sees lots of doctors, but the father of her daughter doesn't seem to want to pay anything, and he seems to not care much to call or visit their daughter anymore. My aunt complains a lot about this to us. He claims she's blocking him, when it's not true since my aunt was adamant (from the very beginning) for him to visit or for them to visit him, but he keeps making excuses for them not to come and visit. It turns out that he has quite a few children who have nothing to do with him, and they're all grown now too. He should at least step up and try to establish some type of relationship with my cousin since he's scewed up where his other kids are concerned. I'm not sure if he has children with the new woman he's married to.

My aunt has to even take him to court just to get him to help pay his share in medical bills for my cousin's braces, her allergist, dermatologist, etc. and other types of support. My aunt isn't blocking him, he just doesn't want to be bothered with my aunt and cousin, by the sounds of it.

Anywho, no mother should block a father from their kids and should go to court and fight it! No mother should spend money sent by the father for the kids.We need equal justice for our children, get work to change these laws to protect our children and our rigths as parnts.I agree. It pains me to see good men who want to do the right thing, step up, be fathers, but something is holding them back, like our backwards government.

[barbaraoe]

As I have commented on another site, you are an idiot. You are an impostor and I hope everyone sees you for what you really are. You do not deserve a response to your comments. In fact, I would go on to say that you are most likely a Ku Klux Klan member. Your dialogue sounds much like their racist rhetoric.

[SirNoseDevo]

Justice in America Family Court is unequal toward the non-custodian prents and most times it's the fathers who must pay for two house holds and not see their children. How can it be in the best intrest of our children if they are denied the right to be with their fathers. What happened to back (the word is Black) youth in this county look at the Family Court System. Enough of this conversation about "DEAD BEAT DADS". After the family couart takes our parenting rights and money we are dead broke.
The family court is for the judges, attorneys, and the child enforement employees. Fathers pays for all these services, How is in the best intrest of our childlren if father are not alowed to parent thier childrlen. children do better when both loving parents are part of thier lives. We need equal justice for our children, get work to change these laws to protect our children and our rigths as parnts.

Jimmie, I have to add a touch of reality to your comments.
I think that its so unfair for the Friends of Court to violate
a Father's rights, by forcing them to pay child support, and
pay for the Mother living expenses without seeing their children.

There is a bunch of deadbeat Mothers in this country, but nobody
seems to bring them up, and right now my ex has a warrant out
for her arrest because she owns $85,000 in back child support.
Personall I think that's good news to hear about a woman being a
deadbeat Mother. Its always the Father who is the deadbeat.

My ex walked out on our three children when they was between
3 years & 6 months, and that was back in the 1980's. All three
of my children is adults, and I was the one who busted my ass
working 12 hours a day (sometimes 7 days a week).

Thanks to My Mother, My Sister, and the many women who have
been in and out of my life that helped me to raise them. So Sisters,
all the blame can't be placed on us Brothers who did not run out
on our Children. Some of you have done the same move that my
ex did, and don't forget there is still real men in this world today.

In closing Jimmie I corrected your spelling (no harm done)

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

[grenetta b]

I have a question. How many of you on this board have actually volunteered to just take one of our youth under your wing? How many of you volunteer to tutor at inner-city schools so that just one boy or girl can actually realize the difference an education makes?

I have been doing this for years. Nothing gives me more satisfaction than receiviing a letter or a visit from one of these kids when they start college. I am actually starting to cry while I type this. If you have never done this -- you will never know the inner joy and satisfaction that you receive when you see a former kid doing well when otherwise they may have not had a chance.

Some of these kids do have good parents or at least a good mother. Perhaps that mother cannot read and really can't help her child or she just doesn't have the funds to get a tutor for a child that does show potential but is caught up everything that is going around him/her.

Take that child to a play, to a museum, tutor that child -- we can make a difference even if only one at a time. So don't complain, make a sincere effort to reach back and grab one of those kids.

I did because someone did it for me.


YOU NEVER KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO TAKE A CHILD AND WALK,TALK, AND CARE FOR THEM IS. THERE HAS BEEN MANY OF TIMES MY CHILDRENS FRIENDS HAVE BEEN IN TROUBLE, OR RUN AWAY FROM HOME AND I HAVE HELPED THEM OT TALKED TO THEM TO TALK TO THEIR PARENTS.


TAKING CHARGE OF A CHILD STARTS WITH THE MOTHER OF CHILDREN THAT CARE ENOUGH TO HELP THOSE WHO CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES.:)

[killuminati]

:) Okay Killuminati I see and understand. I am one who can accept
correction without getting a cyberitude.

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

:lol: @ cyberitude. but I'm just saying, as you can see within this thread, that people are divided because of what the Illuminati has instilled into society. if they are eradicated, which requires a unbelievable amount of dedication, you will see all the "problems" of the world go away. but as long as they stay in power, as they have hijacked the U.S. Gov't, you will continue to see the societal spiral dwindle and get worst, as time goes on.

and I apologize if my other post came off with cyberitude. that was not the intention at all. it's just after looking at this information for 10 years, it starts to wear on the heart as ten years ago, I read about the chip, the North American Union and the war on terror, a few months before I read that Princess Diana was going to die. people have been talking about this for years now, but because "we" we're given a rotten piece of the pie, which was better than no pie at all, the majority of us (black people) have become content. now more than ever, they are constantly attacking us psychologically. look at the news and all the injustice happening to black people. at what point, do we, as one collective unit, say "enough is enough!" ??????????

[killuminati]

thank you brother killuminati I did some research on the Illuminati and this is what I found very interesting

THE REALITY YOU HAVE YET TO REALIZE
By Amon Hotep ©2006

> >If you have read either of my previous two essays posted on this site, then
> >you have a thorough understanding of just how and why white people are
> >merely inbred mutant albinos. Now that we have a good understanding of what
> >they are, let us have a better understanding of what they are doing and
> >have been doing for a very long time. As I said in the beginning of a
> >previous essay, Orthodox history as we know it is a lie. Let us focus on
> >one of my assertions for just one moment. I previously stated in my essay
> >“What white people don’t want you to understand” that white people have
> >only rediscovered or reinvented technology that was originally invented by
> >our ancient ancestors who were black Africans.
> >
> >In inner circles, this “reinventing or rediscovering” is commonly referred
> >to as reverse-engineering. Deep in antiquity, there did exist a prehistoric
> >super-civilization that was far more advanced technologically than we are
> >today. Some of the spacecraft/aircraft, that existed back then that may
> >have crashed during some ancient reconnaissance or war, has been recovered
> >by the powers that be and they have been proceeding to reverse engineer
> >various portions of that downed ancient craft. They have been reverse
> >engineering everything from the propulsion system to the electronic
> >capabilities of other parts and components of the craft. It is common
> >knowledge in some circles that AT&T Bell Laboratories has been credited
> >with the development of the transistor, however in reality what they have
> >done is reverse engineer that technology from an ancient crashed
> >aircraft/spacecraft. They like to refer to those craft as “crashed ET
> >spacecraft”. However that carries a connotation that non-humans created and
> >manufactured those craft when in reality they are human created and
> >manufactured craft but was created and manufactured deep in antiquity
> >before white people existed within the context that we understand them
> >today. This goes on to say that many of the so called modern amenities that
> >white people take pride in crediting themselves with developing and
> >inventing, they really did not invent.
> >
> >They only reverse engineered it from ancient artifacts or machines and took
> >credit for it. One major lie was that the Wright Brothers developed the
> >concept of flight. They were only credited with it. They really got the
> >secret of flight from reverse engineering one of the downed ancient air
> >craft/spacecraft. What they also don’t want to tell you is that when they
> >recover these crashed ancient aircraft, often from archeological digs, they
> >find the remains of black people in there as pilots, not “greys” or other
> >aliens that they want to lead you to believe. Forensic evidence will
> >confirm that!
> >
> >Nicola Tesla is another name you may or may not be familiar with. He is
> >known for the rediscovery of many ancient technologies that are only now
> >beginning to resurface. One program that I would like to bring to your
> >attention is HAARP. HAARP stands for High Frequency Active Auroral
> >Research Program. It is jointly funded by the United States Air Force, Navy
> >and University of Alaska. It is said that the project is similar to
> >numerous existing ionospheric heaters around the world, and has a large
> >suite of diagnostic instruments that facilitate its use to increase
> >scientific understanding of ionospheric dynamics. It is rumored that this
> >program is behind weather modification and control.
> >
> >The Illuminati, the real power controlling the Bush Administration, have
> >had their front organizations perfecting this technology for decades. With
> >their manipulations of the ionosphere, they can create tornados,
> >hurricanes, torrential rain fall and most anything else they want at will.
> >It is widely speculated now that it was the Illuminati behind hurricanes
> >Katrina and Rita as well as the tsunami that devastated Indonesia in
> >December 2004. What people have to understand is a lot that we like to
> >think are natural disasters and catastrophes are actually man made and done
> >deliberately to further the Illuminati agenda which ultimately is global
> >depopulation. They just keep this technology suppressed so that no one
> >would readily believe that all the devastation is actually man made.
> >
> >Going back to the origin of Caucasians once more, white people are called
> >Caucasian because they had supposed origins in the Caucasus Mountains of
> >Russia. They were initially placed there by ancient black Africans because
> >they were disrupting black civilization. Have you ever wondered how Europe
> >got that name? Because our ancestors sent barbaric white people to the
> >Caucasus Mountains and roped them off with a great wall. It is commonly
> >referred to as the Caucasian Wall or the “Alexander Wall” although
> >Alexander the great had nothing to do with its construction. Legend has it
> >that the wall was 666 miles in circumference and that is really how the
> >white devils, as the Muslims in the civilization south of the Caucasus
> >Mountains referred to the barbaric white people, came to associate “666”
> >with the devil. They managed to break past that wall and attack the black
> >civilizations to the south and the rest is history. The religion of Islam
> >teaches much of this per Elijah Muhammad. Based on many facts and
> >historical evidence as brought forward in Paul Lawrence Guthrie’s book “The
> >Making of the Whiteman”, Islam is actually closer to historical fact than
> >most people would like to think, and this is what troubles Caucasians. This
> >is the real reason behind this WAR ON ISLAM!
> >
> >Another Illuminati front organization is the Centers for Disease Control or
> >as some like to describe them, the Centers for Deception and Corruption.
> >Not only are they responsible for the development and proliferation of HIV
> >and AIDS but also SARS, this new Bird Flu Pandemic on the horizon, and
> >another strange disease becoming an epidemic in California, Texas and
> >Florida called Morgellons Disease. Have you noticed an epidemic in Diabetes
> >going around the world lately? yep, you guessed it. Deliberate
> >proliferation by the FDA (another Illuminati front organization) trying to
> >make money for the pharmaceutical industry at the expense of innocent
> >people’s health world wide. One catalyst for doing this is the sweetener
> >Aspartame placed in many diet products from sodas to chewing gum. Be
> >careful, Depleted Uranium has a connection with the global diabetes
> >epidemic as well. This is all pretty much spelled out in something called
> >the secret covenant, they, the Illuminati live by, you can read it at this
> >link:
> >
> > http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/illuminati/secret_covenant.htm
> >
> >It goes into explicit detail of just what the powers that be have been up
> >to for a very long time and continue to get over doing. Are you familiar
> >with Chemtrails? Those strange crisscross patterns that are produced from
> >the exhaust of Airplanes are serving the Illuminati agenda as well. They
> >are secretly coating your lungs with a man made cocktail that is making you
> >more receptive to the Bird Flu virus once it is finally released en mass to
> >the global population. The cocktail reaches you when it rains as a result
> >of their Chemtrail spraying. You ask why are white people (The Illuminati)
> >doing all of this? Remember from my past essays that white people being
> >genetic defects cannot reproduce like normal people, while their birthrate
> >plummets, people of color’s birthrates skyrocket. They have to kill off
> >people of color while at the same time rectify their poor population
> >efforts by cloning themselves which is disguised as stem cell research.
> >They want to reduce the present world population of 6 billion people to
> >about 100 to 500 million. This includes killing off many white people as
> >well.
> >
> >They give themselves secret vaccinations or genetically engineered
> >mutations to make themselves immune to their poisons at the same time
> >giving the rest of the population vaccinations that will make them more
> >receptive to whatever genocidal virus they decide to release to kill off
> >the masses. The truth is all over the Internet. That is why there is a
> >movement taking place right now to censor the Internet and the truth that
> >is widely exposed. You can bet your bottom dollar that the real reason we
> >are at war in Iraq is because of the discovery of an ancient Sumerian
> >artifact that once becomes widespread will cause a shift in consciousness.
> >It will confirm white people are only black people’s genetic defects and
> >freaks of nature and that white people aren’t the supreme race that they
> >lie about. Remember Iraq is the site of ancient Mesopotamia, there is a lot
> >that the Jewish media isn’t telling you! All of this is merely the tip of
> >the iceberg of what secret clandestine operations the United States
> >government and other world governments controlled by the Illuminati have
> >going on. It is all going on right under your nose and you didn’t even
> >realize it. You can read more about the Illuminate with the following link:
> >http://www.illuminati-news.com/shadow-gov.htm
> >
> >
> >Don’t forget about the RFID chips that are becoming popular with helping to
> >find pets these days. The Illuminati’s ultimate goal is to chip every man
> >woman and child on planet Earth for control purposes. Now that you have
> >been clued in, you can take it upon yourself to not only discover that
> >black skin is the genetic parent and figure out what white people don’t
> >want you to understand, but finally determine the reality you have yet to
> >realize.
> >
> >
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I'm at a point in the research now where the original "Jews" mentioned in the Bible are actually US. We are the hebrew israelites that the Roman empire casted out of Israel and took over that land and rearranged history as we know it. the Vatican has soooo much control it's ridiculous. and if you can, really research into Skull and Bones, specifically out of Yale, and see the control they have over the U.S. society. it's crazy, and everytime I refresh my memory about it, I get angry.

also look into the Boule (Sigma Pi Phi). they are the black "skull and bones" and also have prominent people in their grasps. malcolm X and martin luther king jr. were members. and from where I stand, the reason they were assassinated is because they no longer wanted to play the field for the Illuminati. if you have Yahoo or Hotmail Instant Messenger, I can send you all of Malcolm X's public speeches and Martin Luther King Jr's speeches as well. They spoke about the occuping force a lot, and as it got close to their demise, you can see that they no longer cared what people thought. just like when Farrakhan was speaking the State of the Black Union, in 2005 and 2006.

some say the revolution won't be televised. I say the revolution won't occur, until people give up what they know as the daily grind and come together. This is also why I believe, Jesus Christ, in the Bible, knew He had to return and save His people. the levels of trickery are too profound. and if the lid was ever open, completely chaos would take hold.

[killuminati]

also, BARACK OBAMA is apart of their mold. even his wife is apart of the Chicago Council on Foriegn Relations. please, oh please, don't fall for the "he's black, so he got my vote" mentality. "they" have been able to cause division this time around that it's going to be hard for people to see that the majority of the candidates are apart of the New World Order. BARACK OBAMA is apart of the New World Order. you vote for him, you vote for Bush and anyone else bent on world domination. they want the votes divided, so they can conquer. stand up people, time is getting short.

[sweetchas]

When will people be held accountable for their own actions??Instead of blaming other people,life isnt always great but in the end its up to you to make it better.

[enpowermentnow]

I'm at a point in the research now where the original "Jews" mentioned in the Bible are actually US. We are the hebrew israelites that the Roman empire casted out of Israel and took over that land and rearranged history as we know it. the Vatican has soooo much control it's ridiculous. and if you can, really research into Skull and Bones, specifically out of Yale, and see the control they have over the U.S. society. it's crazy, and everytime I refresh my memory about it, I get angry.

also look into the Boule (Sigma Pi Phi). they are the black "skull and bones" and also have prominent people in their grasps. malcolm X and martin luther king jr. were members. and from where I stand, the reason they were assassinated is because they no longer wanted to play the field for the Illuminati. if you have Yahoo or Hotmail Instant Messenger, I can send you all of Malcolm X's public speeches and Martin Luther King Jr's speeches as well. They spoke about the occuping force a lot, and as it got close to their demise, you can see that they no longer cared what people thought. just like when Farrakhan was speaking the State of the Black Union, in 2005 and 2006.

some say the revolution won't be televised. I say the revolution won't occur, until people give up what they know as the daily grind and come together. This is also why I believe, Jesus Christ, in the Bible, knew He had to return and save His people. the levels of trickery are too profound. and if the lid was ever open, completely chaos would take hold.

In my opinon, there is separtism in religon, class, education, employment. Until we come together as one the problems will continue. How do we develop an organization that is built on empowerment? We set all our differences aside to take care of our own. My vision is a one stop help spot.
Providing assistance to everyone. We can not allow another generation of our children to slip away. All the money the middle class spends with Department Stores, banks, resturants etc, We ask them for contributions of clothing, money for loans etc provide meals, shower facilites, washers and dryers. Individuals may be receivng vouchers, however, if they are foolishly spending....We need to look out for them and their children. I am now attempting to form a group of adults to walk the children home. Just yesterday after school was out, gunshots rang out....but if there were adults methodically deployed throughout the neighborhood it would accomplish two things.......the boy doing the shooting will not go to jail for 50 years and the boy being shot will not be at the funeral parlor. We have to take responsiblity of our own. They have the deck stacked against us with privatized prison systems, temporary employment slave agencies, the patriot act, inadequate health care medcaid, high intrest rates, sub prime lending etc etc. In every thing I just mentioned their are professionals that are in the communtiy that could provide advice. Please send me information on the boule. I am very in tune with Minister Farkkhan, Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. Thanks for the enlightenment on the Illuminati. Stay safe and be blessed.

[SirNoseDevo]

:lol: @ cyberitude. but I'm just saying, as you can see within this thread, that people are divided because of what the Illuminati has instilled into society. if they are eradicated, which requires a unbelievable amount of dedication, you will see all the "problems" of the world go away. but as long as they stay in power, as they have hijacked the U.S. Gov't, you will continue to see the societal spiral dwindle and get worst, as time goes on.

and I apologize if my other post came off with cyberitude. that was not the intention at all. it's just after looking at this information for 10 years, it starts to wear on the heart as ten years ago, I read about the chip, the North American Union and the war on terror, a few months before I read that Princess Diana was going to die. people have been talking about this for years now, but because "we" we're given a rotten piece of the pie, which was better than no pie at all, the majority of us (black people) have become content. now more than ever, they are constantly attacking us psychologically. look at the news and all the injustice happening to black people. at what point, do we, as one collective unit, say "enough is enough!" ??????????

Right On ...Right On, But sometimes we have to use a certain tone
in our posts to get our points across to both races. Today's society
is so mindset until the thought of respect is no longer a word with
meaning. Sure, Black America has a losted generation that's confused
as hell, but we must bring the wisdom back into the family circle, and
believe me there's hope when the white man seem to think that there's
no hope for our young Black Brothers & Sisters.

You are 100% right when you said that Blacks have become contents
with how things are going in the Black communities of the United Snakes
of Murders, and its true that we are under attack psychologically...but
what we do?? we give in by fighting with each other.

[killuminati]

When will people be held accountable for their own actions??Instead of blaming other people,life isnt always great but in the end its up to you to make it better.

you are correct, life isn't always great, but it can be if a few people are exposed, and further, eradicated.

[Living with the enemy]

America Has Lost A Generation Of Black Boys

By Phillip Jackson
Executive Director of the Black Star Project
Chicago, IL
blackstar1000@ameritech.net

There is no longer a need for dire predictions, hand-wringing, or
apprehension about losing a generation of black boys. It is too late. In
education, employment, economics, incarceration, health, housing, and
parenting, we have lost a generation of young black men. The question
that remains is will we lose the next two or three generations, or
possibly every generation of black boys hereafter to the streets,
negative media, gangs, drugs, poor education, unemployment, father
absence, crime, violence and death.

Most young black men in the United States don't graduate from high
school. Only 35% of black male students graduated from high school in
Chicago and only 26% in New York City, according to a 2006 report by
The Schott Foundation for Public Education. Only a few black boys who
finish high school actually attend college, and of those few black boys
who enter college, nationally, only 22% of them finish college.

Young black male students have the worst grades, the lowest test scores,
and the highest dropout rates of all students in the country. When these
young black men don't succeed in school, they are much more likely to
succeed in the nation's criminal justice and penitentiary system. And it
was discovered recently that even when a young black man graduates from
a U.S. college, there is a good chance that he is from Africa, the
Caribbean or Europe, and not the United States.

Black men in prison in America have become as American as apple pie.
There are more black men in prisons and jails in the United States
(about 1.1 million) than there are black men incarcerated in the rest of
the world combined. This criminalization process now starts in
elementary schools with black male children as young as six and seven
years old being arrested in staggering numbers according to a 2005
report, Education on Lockdown by the Advancement Project.

The rest of the world is watching and following the lead of America.
Other countries including England, Canada, Jamaica, Brazil and South
Africa are adopting American social policies that encourage the
incarceration and destruction of young black men. This is leading to a
world-wide catastrophe. But still, there is no adequate response from
the American or global black community.

Worst of all is the passivity, neglect and disengagement of the black
community concerning the future of our black boys. We do little while
the future lives of black boys are being destroyed in record numbers.
The schools that black boys attend prepare them with skills that will
make them obsolete before, and if, they graduate. In a strange and
perverse way, the black community, its elf, has started to w age a kind
of war against young black men and has become part of this destructive
process.

Who are young black women going to marry? Who is going to build and
maintain the economies of black communities? Who is going to anchor
strong families in the black community? Who will young black boys
emulate as they grow into men? Where is the outrage of the black
community at the destruction of its black boys? Where are the plans and
the supportive actions to change this? Is this the beginning of the end
of the black people in America ?

The list of those who have failed young black men includes our
government, our foundations, our schools, our media, our black churches,
our black leaders, and even our parents. Ironical ly, experts say that
the solutions to the problems of young black men are simple and
relatively inexpensive, but they may not be easy, practical or popular.
It is not that we lack solutions as much as it is that we lack the will
to implement these solutions to save black boys. It seems that
government is willing to pay billions of dollars to lock up young black
men, rather than the millions it would take to prepare them to become
viable contributors and valued members of our society.

Please consider these simple goals that can lead to solutions for fixing
the problems of young black men:

Short term
1) Teach all black boys to read at grade level by the third grade and to
embrace education.
2) Provide positive role models for black boys.
3) Create a stable home environment for black boys that includes contact
with their fathers.
4) Ensure that black boys have a strong spiritual base.
5) Control the negative media influences on black boys.
6) Teach black boys to respect all girls and women.

Long term
1) Invest as much money in educating black boys as in locking up black
men.
2) Help connect black boys to a positive vision of themselves in the
future.
3) Create high expectations and help black boys live into those high
expectations.
4) Build a positive peer culture for black boys.
5) Teach black boys self-discipline, culture and history.
6) Teach black boys and the communities in which they live to embrace
education and life-long learning.



Wake up people!!! We as a people have lost our religion, our family structure, our spirit, our culture. It's time to wake up the sleeping GIANT. Our children need role models, an education thats fair and not one sided. The black women is being used to kill off the black race. There are good black men out here just remember what your mother taught you. Don't give up the cookies until your wedding night. Make that man prove that he can support and protect you and your family. Mold that man into the strong powerful person he can be. In return he must put you before any other women and make you his Goddess. Strive for perfection in your relationship and keep GOD first.
Remember we were once separated from our family and sold to the highs bidder. Things haven't changed just the game the black women look more anglo then their mother's mother. The black males are marked for genocide and we must stop it now. Black women I am not trying to totally blame you, but you are being set-up thats why you can find a good black man.

[Living with the enemy]

Wake up people!!! We as a people have lost our religion, our family structure, our spirit, our culture. It's time to wake up the sleeping GIANT. Our children need role models, an education thats fair and not one sided. The black women is being used to kill off the black race. There are good black men out here just remember what your mother taught you. Don't give up the cookies until your wedding night. Make that man prove that he can support and protect you and your family. Mold that man into the strong powerful person he can be. In return he must put you before any other women and make you his Goddess. Strive for perfection in your relationship and keep GOD first.
Remember we were once separated from our family and sold to the highs bidder. Things haven't changed just the game the black women look more anglo then their mother's mother. The black males are marked for genocide and we must stop it now. Black women I am not trying to totally blame you, but you are being set-up thats why you can find a good black man.

[filmoredollar]

also, BARACK OBAMA is apart of their mold. even his wife is apart of the Chicago Council on Foriegn Relations. please, oh please, don't fall for the "he's black, so he got my vote" mentality. "they" have been able to cause division this time around that it's going to be hard for people to see that the majority of the candidates are apart of the New World Order. BARACK OBAMA is apart of the New World Order. you vote for him, you vote for Bush and anyone else bent on world domination. they want the votes divided, so they can conquer. stand up people, time is getting short.

Who do you suggest we as blacks vote for in 08? Do you suggest that we vote at all?

[CarolynW]

also, BARACK OBAMA is apart of their mold. even his wife is apart of the Chicago Council on Foriegn Relations. please, oh please, don't fall for the "he's black, so he got my vote" mentality. "they" have been able to cause division this time around that it's going to be hard for people to see that the majority of the candidates are apart of the New World Order. BARACK OBAMA is apart of the New World Order. you vote for him, you vote for Bush and anyone else bent on world domination. they want the votes divided, so they can conquer. stand up people, time is getting short.

This makes no sense at all...you say all the candidates are corrupt...and tell us to "stand up" and "time is getting short?" Barack Obama is the best candidate I've seen so far in either party, and he has MY VOTE! I'm not basing it on the color of his skin, but on what he stands for!

[enpowermentnow]

Who do you suggest we as blacks vote for in 08? Do you suggest that we vote at all?

Very good question

[brownthrasher]

Op-Ed Contributor
Jena, O. J. and the Jailing of Black America

By ORLANDO PATTERSON
Published: September 30, 2007

THE miscarriage of justice at Jena, La. — where five black high school students arrested for beating a white student were charged with attempted murder — and the resulting protest march tempts us to the view, expressed by several of the marchers, that not much has changed in traditional American racial relations. However, a remarkable series of high-profile incidents occurring elsewhere in the nation at about the same time, as well as the underlying reason for the demonstrations themselves, make it clear that the Jena case is hardly a throwback to the 1960s, but instead speaks to issues that are very much of our times.

What exactly attracted thousands of demonstrators to the small Louisiana town? While for some it was a simple case of righting a grievous local injustice, and for others an opportunity to relive the civil rights era, for most the real motive was a long overdue cry of outrage at the use of the prison system as a means of controlling young black men.

America has more than two million citizens behind bars, the highest absolute and per capita rate of incarceration in the world. Black Americans, a mere 13 percent of the population, constitute half of this country’s prisoners. A tenth of all black men between ages 20 and 35 are in jail or prison; blacks are incarcerated at over eight times the white rate.

The effect on black communities is catastrophic: one in three male African-Americans in their 30s now has a prison record, as do nearly two-thirds of all black male high school dropouts. These numbers and rates are incomparably greater than anything achieved at the height of the Jim Crow era. What’s odd is how long it has taken the African-American community to address in a forceful and thoughtful way this racially biased and utterly counterproductive situation.

How, after decades of undeniable racial progress, did we end up with this virtual gulag of racial incarceration?

Part of the answer is a law enforcement system that unfairly focuses on drug offenses and other crimes more likely to be committed by blacks, combined with draconian mandatory sentencing and an absurdly counterproductive retreat from rehabilitation as an integral method of dealing with offenders. An unrealistic fear of crime that is fed in part by politicians and the press, a tendency to emphasize punitive measures and old-fashioned racism are all at play here.

But there is another equally important cause: the simple fact that young black men commit a disproportionate number of crimes, especially violent crimes, which cannot be attributed to judicial bias, racism or economic hardships. The rate at which blacks commit homicides is seven times that of whites.

Why is this? Several incidents serendipitously occurring at around the same time as the march on Jena hint loudly at a possible answer.

•

In New York City, the tabloids published sensational details of the bias suit brought by a black former executive for the Knicks, Anucha Browne Sanders, who claims that she was frequently called a “bitch” and a “ho” by the Knicks coach and president, Isiah Thomas. In a video deposition, Thomas said that while it is always wrong for a white man to verbally abuse a black woman in such terms, it was “not as much ... I’m sorry to say” for a black man to do so.

•

Across the nation, religious African-Americans were shocked that the evangelical minister Juanita Bynum, an enormously popular source of inspiration for churchgoing black women, said she was brutally beaten in a parking lot by her estranged husband, Bishop Thomas Weeks.

•

O. J. Simpson, the malevolent central player in an iconic moment in the nation’s recent black-white (as well as male-female) relations, reappeared on the scene, charged with attempted burglary, kidnapping and felonious assault in Las Vegas, in what he claimed was merely an attempt to recover stolen memorabilia.

These events all point to something that has been swept under the rug for too long in black America: the crisis in relations between men and women of all classes and, as a result, the catastrophic state of black family life, especially among the poor. Isiah Thomas’s outrageous double standard shocked many blacks in New York only because he had the nerve to say out loud what is a fact of life for too many black women who must daily confront indignity and abuse in hip-hop misogyny and everyday conversation.

What is done with words is merely the verbal end of a continuum of abuse that too often ends with beatings and spousal homicide. Black relationships and families fail at high rates because women increasingly refuse to put up with this abuse. The resulting absence of fathers — some 70 percent of black babies are born to single mothers — is undoubtedly a major cause of youth delinquency.

The circumstances that far too many African-Americans face — the lack of paternal support and discipline; the requirement that single mothers work regardless of the effect on their children’s care; the hypocritical refusal of conservative politicians to put their money where their mouths are on family values; the recourse by male youths to gangs as parental substitutes; the ghetto-fabulous culture of the streets; the lack of skills among black men for the jobs and pay they want; the hypersegregation of blacks into impoverished inner-city neighborhoods — all interact perversely with the prison system that simply makes hardened criminals of nonviolent drug offenders and spits out angry men who are unemployable, unreformable and unmarriageable, closing the vicious circle.

Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and other leaders of the Jena demonstration who view events there, and the racial horror of our prisons, as solely the result of white racism are living not just in the past but in a state of denial. Even after removing racial bias in our judicial and prison system — as we should and must do — disproportionate numbers of young black men will continue to be incarcerated.

Until we view this social calamity in its entirety — by also acknowledging the central role of unstable relations among the sexes and within poor families, by placing a far higher priority on moral and social reform within troubled black communities, and by greatly expanding social services for infants and children — it will persist.

Orlando Patterson is a professor of sociology at Harvard and the author of “The Ordeal of Integration: Progress and Resentment in America’s ‘Racial’ Crisis.”

[c_one_love]

What we all need to understand is that its not just African-American people who are going through this it is America as a whole...we are a country of lies and smoke screens....nothing here is what it seems...morality is not being taught in any school...parents of all races spend less than 2 hours of face time with there kids...The church focus more on pro

[truebeholder]

From what I have read on different Craigslist rants and raves boards, white america in general is disgusted with the way black people conduct themselves.

Like it or not, we are accountable to the larger population and that is something we should consider and teach our kids.

It's not about color, it's about being American, versus being african in America.

[truebeholder]

From what I have read on different Craigslist rants and raves boards, white america in general is disgusted with the way black people conduct themselves.

Like it or not, we are accountable to the larger population and that is something we should consider and teach our kids.

It's not about color, it's about being American, versus being african in America.

[SirNoseDevo]

From what I have read on different Craigslist rants and raves boards, white america in general is disgusted with the way black people conduct themselves.

Like it or not, we are accountable to the larger population and that is something we should consider and teach our kids.

It's not about color, it's about being American, versus being african in America.

As far as I am concern let White America be disgusted all they want to
be. White America needs to take a good look at its own BS, and stop
pointing fingers without offering a solution.

You said its not about color, but yet you post white America in
general is disgusted with the way Blacks conduct themselves?
You need to think before you type, due to the fact that your
statement sounds twisted, and I am suggesting to be on one side
of the fence or the other.

This is one of the mainstream problems with racism today. People
seem to always want to sugar cover the real meanings behind their
thoughts, and whenever one try to be super slick the thought seems
to always get twisted.

In closing, don't you think that Black Americans are disgusted with
Whites, and you two shaded negros talking loud and saying nothing?
Blacks should be made more aware to what's happening inside of
their communities, and it seems that some whites are thinking that
they know the Black man's struggle...but don't understand anything.

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

[Overstandup]

:) I am fully agree with the "lost generation" but I don't think it's too late, the African American sister can bring it back in my belief.
(full story: visit www.overstand.o-f.com) Thank you.

Please enlighten me your views!

History is repeating itself. They say beside every great man, there is a good woman. However, it seems as though woman are becoming just as, if not more, successful than black men. Brothers, I don?t know whether you have been watching, but I'm here to tell you that within the next 10 yrs, not only will African American woman have executive positions in the corporate world, but they will also be the head of many households abroad. I know it may be tough to make sense of, but stay with me. African American woman are the backbone of the black race. Ask, Harriett Tubman, Rosa Parks, or Ida Wells Barnett. These are woman that walked the walk. Ask Cloretta Scott King, Myrlie Evans, or Betty Shabazz, all woman that walked in faith with courageous black men. I just roughly spanned close about 400 years of history, so let me slow it down for you all. (full story: visit www.overstand.o-f.com) Thank you.

[WORD IS]

Each year, there are countless incidents of race discrimination in the sale and rental of housing, in the issuance of insurance, in lending practices, in retail and public accommodations, in health care, in employment, in education, and in almost every facet of life in America. Subtle racial profiling in consumer transactions is a pernicious breed of racism that masquerades as legitimate business practice. Race Discrimination will not vanish from our world on its own accord. It must be vanquished. No one should be deprived of the equal rights constitutionally guaranteed to all persons, regardless of their race or color. If our Nation is ever truly to honor its pledge of allegiance, we must hold accountable those whose actions demonstrate deliberate contempt for the Supreme Law of our Land. The economic disincentive of civil liability may be our best weapon against discrimination.

Congress enacted the Civil Rights Act of 1866 as the enabling legislation for the Thirteenth Amendment. Beautifully crafted in remarkably simple language, the Civil Rights Act of 1866 was our Nation’s first civil rights act. Its express legislative purpose was to remove the badges of slavery and guarantee federal protection to freed slaves by providing a private cause of action to victims of discrimination. Recognizing that the federal government had neither the resources nor manpower to prosecute every act of private discrimination, Congress intended this Act as sweeping measure to empower and encourage victims of discrimination, acting as private attorneys general, to prosecute race discrimination through civil action. The straightforward directives of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, now embodied in two statutes, have hardly changed since their original enactment almost 150 years ago.

The first, 42 U.S.C. section 1981, provides simply that everyone has the same right to make and enforce contracts as is enjoyed by white people. Section 1981 prohibits race discrimination in the making or enforcement of any type of contract. Discriminatory actions that come under Section 1981 include employment discrimination, housing discrimination, discriminatory lending practices, discrimination in the provision of services and public accommodations, discrimination in education, and many, many more.

The second, 42 U.S.C. section 1982, guarantees to all citizens the same right to buy, rent, sell, inherit, devise, and possess real and personal property as is enjoyed by white people. Section 1982 prohibits race discrimination that interferes with another’s right to own, rent, sell, purchase, or possess both real and personal property. Real property is land, houses, and other structures. Personal property includes such things as cars, rings, comic books, clothes, and just about everything else that isn’t attached to the ground.

Under sections 1981 and 1982, a prevailing plaintiff is entitled to recover sufficient monetary damages to fully compensate for the hurt of race discrimination. The plaintiff is entitled to be “made whole.” Courts have long recognized that even a single act of race discrimination may cause debilitating and long-lasting emotional distress and even health problems. For that reason, a prevailing may recover damages for emotional harm even without expert medical testimony. For an excellent account of the harm caused by race discrimination, see the expert witness report prepared by Dr. Karyn D. McKinney, at http://rhadamanthinewhen.blogspot.com/. In addition to monetary damages, the court may also grant injunctive relief, such as ordering the defendant to take remedial steps to insure against future acts of discrimination.

In actions under sections 1981 and 1982, the jury may assess punitive damages against the defendant in a sufficient amount to accomplish two goals: first, to punish the defendant’s discriminatory conduct; and second, to deter the defendant and others of like mind from engaging in such conduct in the future. While the defendant’s net worth is an important factor, the amount of punitive damages that may be awarded is limited only by the plaintiff’s proof and the jury’s conscious.

These statutes are not burdened with the bells and whistles found in many modern civil rights statutes, bells and whistles that force plaintiffs to jump through complicated procedural hoops and provide the guilty with loopholes to limit or avoid liability. Do not be taken in by the prevailing views that race discrimination claims are prohibitively expensive to prosecute or that racism is overwhelmingly difficult to prove. A prevailing plaintiff is entitled to recover the costs incurred in bringing the action to court, including an award of attorney’s fees, based on the number of hours the attorney put into the case multiplied by the going hourly rate in the community. As to proof, there is nothing mysterious about bigotry. Race discrimination is much less difficult to prove than it is to explain away.

We can no longer sit back and accept racial prejudice as “just something that happens.” If you have been the victim of race discrimination, use your experience as an opportunity to take action. Send a clear message that race discrimination is unlawful and will not be tolerated.

[SirNoseDevo]

Awww Come on WORD, You know it just like I know it that
complaining isn't that easy when it comes to racism or to
discrimination, and being easy is why things are like they are
today. Congress can't handle its own affairs muchless when
a Citizen complain, and the United States (so-called) constitution
isn't for the Black or manority races.

If it was Whites & Blacks would not be at each others throats.
So what really needs to be done is to make discriminating or
race hate a major crime, and a serious sentence should be given
out.

You are talking about what Congress did in 1866. What good is
Congress doing now in 2007?

Take a good look around you today is the civil rights law doing
any good? Whites who have been discriminating against us for
hundreds of years. Is now using reverse discrimination on us by
yelling and claiming that WE are discriminating against them.

I believe in trying to solve a situation first without using physical
violences, but I also believe in by any means neccessary, and if
it calls for standing up with a fight so be it. Bare this in mind your
government don't give 2 cents about your well-being, but when it
coming to raising higher gas prices to support the war in Iraq we
are hit with the increase, and when it comes to racism the United
Snakes can't get a handle on that.

What Blacks need to do is to figure out the solution for this claim
that we have losted today's generation of Black youth. Then once
we ALL can come up with a solution share it with each other, and
we do not need NO white person to tell us how to solve our own
problems.

The first place to start is in the homes of Black families, and once
things get re-established in the home it can be carried outside of
the home. We need to provide a better interesting education for our
young generation of Students. As a Counselor I have clients (young
teen-agers) who is assigned to me that can't read or write. Many
comes from a broken home that's without a Father, or the Mother
has walked off leaving the child(ren) with the Father or someone
else.

This can be a reason why we are losing our young Black generation
of Black young men & women. So what should we do about handling
a situation like I just stated? The only thing that's left is for our youth
to get caught up into the White man's Fostercare system, and that
will break a family of children apart.

In closing, What we did 40 and 50 years ago is done in a different
way today, but reality in the home have not changed, and what we
need to do is to become Parents, Big Brothers and Sisters, and (there's
room for becoming best friends) once again.

Sir Nose D.V of Funk

[koverall28]

I am a teacher and I wrote this poem in response to observations that I have made in our schools and communities.

Are You too Busy, too Tired, or Just Don’t Care
By Kecia J. Coar

He’s so excited!
He’s finally old enough to go to school!
You send him to a perfect stranger who you never meet.
Are you too busy, too tired, or just don’t care?
He needs help with reading and math.
Are you too busy, too tired, or just don’t care?
He’s now a behavior problem,
Trying to get attention, the wrong kind of attention.
Are you too busy, too tired, or just don’t care?
He’s absent from school today and many other days.
Did you know? Or
Are you too busy, too tired, or just don’t care?
He’s made the wrong kind of friends who stay in trouble.
Are you too busy, too tired, or just don’t care?
At 13, he’s tried as an adult.
Are you too busy, too tired, or just don’t care?
At 16, he’s gone.
He no longer has to worry whether you
Are too busy, too tired, or just don’t care.


“Train up a child in the way he should go; and when he is old, he will not depart from it.” (Pr22:6).

© Copyright 2007 by Kecia J. Coar. All Rights Reserved.

[WORD IS]

Dear Sir Nose D.V of Funk,

Your cynicism is understandable, and yes, I am advocating a return to the Civil Rights Act of 1866, now codified as sections 1981 and 1982, the fundamental provisions of which comprise a single sentence, unlike the modern civil rights acts that go on and on and on, then reference some other tediously incoherent section frequently designed to benefit the bigots and limit the plaintiff's recovery, no matter how egregious the discriminatory conduct. Under sections 1981 and 1982, you don't first have to go to the EEOC or the FHA or the PTA, or anywhere else. You write the complaint and file it, either in State or Federal Court.

After studying the most often contentious Senate and House debates over ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment and the adoption of appropriate enabling legislation, I can say this. Had the political powers not shifted so dramatically when the country grew tired of Reconstruction and the carpet baggers had made all the money they could reasonably carry home, we never would have known Separate but Equal, and the Civil Rights Movement would have been largely pre-empted, but shift they did. When the political power changed, the make-up of the Supreme Court changed with it.

In 1896, the Supreme Court decided Plessy v. Ferguson in which it held that Congress did not have the power to tell States what was against the law. The court’s decision was based on the same specious States Rights argument now being advanced by the ignoble incompetents of our current so-called political elite. As a consequence of Plessy, the Civil Rights Act of 1866 was buried before it could accomplish the purpose for which it was intended. The Act remained little more than an historical footnote for nearly 100 years. In the 60's, the Supreme Court finally revisited the issue and held that sections 1981 and 1982 are valid and enforceable and create a private right of action for victims of race discrimination.

Civil rights litigation accomplishes much more than simply compensating the plaintiff or punishing the defendant. Every single case that is brought sends a message, not only to the bigots that racism will cost, but also to Black folk who believe, like you, that challenging bigotry is too daunting a task. Attached are the written decisions in three civil rights cases recently heard in the federal court for the middle district of North Carolina. I edited them to focus on the race discrimination claims under sections 1981 and 1982.

In Bynum v. Hobbs Realty, a young woman was denied possession of a beach house that her parents had rented for her for the weekend. The owner the vacation rental agency refused to give her the key or look at her ID or talk to her parents on the telephone. He simply walked away, mumbling under his breath, "We don't rent to no niggers."

In Dobbs v. CCB, bank personnel treated Mr. Dobbs rudely, would not respond to his questions, and then called 911 to report that a scary, dangerous Black man was in the bank and to request immediate assistance. By the time police arrived, Mr. Dobbs had left the bank and was driving away. Based on what the bank manager had reported to dispatch, the officers pulled Mr. Dobbs over, ordered him out of the car, put him in handcuffs, and searched him.

In Johnson v. York Simpson Underwood, Ray-J Johnson sued one of the biggest, snobbiest, whitest, most powerful and most bigoted real estate firms in NC for refusing him entry to an open house hosted by one of their agents. The agent, a 50 something year old white woman, met Ray-J at the door and told him in no uncertain terms to leave immediately and not to return unless he was accompanied by an agent. She stood at the door and watched Ray-J get back in his car and drive away. Only then did she call 911 to report that three dangerous looking Black men were trying to enter the house. York Simpson Underwood’s entire defense was that, when the agent saw Ray-J (who is a big man and very black) standing at the door, she had only a split second to decide whether he presented a threat to her personal safety. Her “inner radar” went off, causing her to fear for her safety, but her reaction had nothing whatsoever to do with the color of Ray-J’s skin. Interestingly, throughout the case, the agent referred to Ray-J and members of his family as "Black," but to her Black clients as "African American."

All three of these cases were settled before trial. In all three, the defendants paid big bigot bucks. Whenever possible, these plaintiffs, especially Ray-J, tell their story and encourage others to take a stand. Read Ray-J's expert witness report. This is the kind of information that needs to be shared, not only with bigots, but with the victims of their bigotry. Ray-J, who had planned to buy the house, grew in a rural, eastern NC community, but had never before been confronted with overt racism. He was devastated by this experience, yet his initial thought was to "just let it go." Had he done so, he would have internalized the anger, shame, and bewilderment he felt. That pain would have settled in his gut and festered like an untreated knife wound. The lawsuit was at times stressful, but he knows with absolute certainty that it was the right thing to do.

You say, “I believe in trying to solve a situation first without using physical violence, but I also believe in by any means necessary, and if it calls for standing up with a fight, so be it.” I agree completely, but this is a battle that must be waged on many fronts, by as many means possible. The courts are one front. Litigation is one possible means. This is something we can do. This is something we must do. Molly Secours, a columnist for the BlackCommentator, once wrote, “When it comes to systemic racism and the relentless perpetuation of white supremacy, denial and deflection are dynamite in the proximity of fire. It is only a matter of time before they ignite.”

To tell the God’s honest truth, when it’s all said and done, Bustin’ Bigots is a blast.

There once were two racists named Hobbs,
A pair of unprincipled snobs.
Like bigoted fools, they broke all the rules.
Now they’re both out looking for jobs.

Ubuntu,

WORD IS
Wipe out race discrimination. Inspire sensibility.