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09-11-2007, 12:55 PM
6 arrested in weeklong attack on woman

A woman was sexually abused, beaten and humiliated while being held captive in a home for at least a week, sheriff's officials said Monday after making six arrests.

Those arrested, including a mother and son and a mother and daughter, are white. The victim, a Charleston woman who was being treated at a hospital Monday, is black. The FBI plans to investigate it as a possible hate crime.

"The things that were done to this woman are just indescribable," Logan County sheriff's Sgt. Sonya Porter said.

Deputies found the 23-year-old victim Saturday after going to the home in Big Creek, about 35 miles southwest of Charleston, to investigate an anonymous tip. One of the suspects, Frankie Brewster, was sitting on the front porch and told deputies she was alone, but moments later the victim limped toward the door, her arms outstretched, saying, "Help me," the sheriff's department said in a news release.

Besides being sexually assaulted, the victim had been stabbed four times in the left leg and beaten, Porter said. Both of her eyes were black and blue. The woman's wounds were inflicted at least a week ago, deputies said.

During her capture, the victim was forced to eat rat and dog feces and drink from the toilet, according to the criminal complaint filed in magistrate court. The woman also had been choked with a cable cord and her hair cut, it alleges.

One of those arrested, Karen Burton, is accused of cutting the woman's ankle with a knife. She used the N-word in telling the woman she was victimized because she is black, according to the criminal complaint.

Deputies say the woman was also doused with hot water while being sexually assaulted. The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault.

The sheriff's department requested the FBI's participation, said agent Jay Bartholomew.

The six suspects were arrested Saturday and Sunday. Deputies were still trying to determine whether the victim knew her assailants and how she came to be at Brewster's home, Porter said.

Frankie Brewster, 49, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony investigation.

Her son, Bobby R. Brewster, 24, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony.

Burton, 46, of Chapmanville, is charged with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.

Her daughter Alisha Burton, 23, of Chapmanville, and George A. Messer, 27, of Chapmanville, are charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.

Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding.

All six were held Monday in lieu of $100,000 bond each, and all have asked for court-appointed public defenders.

thegreatest
09-11-2007, 01:15 PM
I am at a true loss for words when I read this story today. It's one thing to know that modern day slavery and racisim are still a major part of America today, but its another when something like this happens. I honestly do not understand how there can be such a hatered towards another person. A total lack of concern for someones life. I was brought up being taught that GOD can take care of people better then we can, but as sad as it may be the last thing that I want to do right now is pray.

1lady4ever
09-11-2007, 01:20 PM
I can't believe this! And the media wants us to believe that racism is no longer an issue in America. Why on earth would you do this to anyone no matter what their race. But to do this to someone just because of their race is sickening. Let's see what their sentence will be. Will they label this as a mere simple assault as they did the white boys who beat up Mychal Bell in Jena!

This world gets worse and worse everyday:(

mgfrombaltimore
09-11-2007, 01:21 PM
What else do you want us to do? Next they will have us getting our food from the back of the kitchen. How are these people on held on $100,000 bond, but the kids in Louisiana are being held on bonds four and fives times higher. They will plead insanity and live out there days at a mental retreat, but the 23 year old victim will be scared for the rest of her life.

dgraphics2005
09-11-2007, 01:23 PM
Thanks for moving this.....I had no way of adding a thread like this but I am glad that you copied what I placed on the board. Here is also the link and photos of those individuals

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0911071logansix1.html

MrsGB'ham
09-11-2007, 01:32 PM
You know what...Every Generation has a time where they have to stand for something...This generation is being faced with the apparent racisim that has been the "under belly" for the last2 decades. I used to not be the activist type, I was always the one that supported everything from a distance. NOW, its on! I still have to do things in moderation because I am not rich and I have a family to support...but damn this....I am ...my family is....working to hard tomake sure a quality life is an option for my children AND that they understand the importance. This is some bull shit...and I tell you what ladies and gentlemen...its about to get worse....Especially with "Barack Obama"... I will post more soon everyone...I am so pissed right now my thoughts are overwhelming me.

I am am an activist for Barack and I am looking for concerned individuals to help be apart of this change.... MORE TO COME!!!

warrior mamma
09-11-2007, 01:38 PM
i was just about post this information...THIS IS WHAT AMERICAN LOOKS LIKE...

warrior mamma
09-11-2007, 01:42 PM
PLEASE PRAY FOR THIS YOUNG WOMAN, MEGAN WILLIAMS AND HER FAMILY. This will take years for healing...

Blackman7
09-11-2007, 01:49 PM
Never trust your enemies and beware of your friends---Confucius

Anytime you have to rely upon your enemy for a job, you’re in bad shape. When you have -- He is your enemy. Let me tell you, you wouldn’t be in this country if some enemy hadn’t kidnapped you and brought you here. On the other hand, some of you think you came here on the Mayflower.---Malcolm X

nsimpson
09-11-2007, 02:22 PM
I am so angry, that we as black people have to go through the racism, and when we react it is a crime, where as if the shoes were turned it is self defense for the white people. We have to stand together in prayer, marches, speeches, letters, and what ever else we need to do to stop this. There is no question that these people need to be strongly punished. That is sad, hurting, and upsetting to hear. We have to stop this soon, because we as black people is going to get to the point to where we can take anymore then there will be war in America(blacks against whites).

sexybrainiac
09-11-2007, 02:26 PM
This is DISGUSTING....reminds me of Deliverance and TX Chainsaw Massacre rolled in one. I hope white people read this story about this woman and make up a damn excuse for this foolishness.

BK The Legend
09-11-2007, 02:26 PM
You see, this is the type of crap that keeps Black Americans on edge. That poor child will never EVER be the same again. After years of being beatdown by White America... People want to go next level & pull this kind of crap. Bad enough Charleston, SC has some of the worst red-necks on earth. They wanna win the prize for the most vile s**t ever pulled on a human being. My eyes are filling with water as I write this because I'd love to be locked up with each one of them for about an hour apiece. I believe that JUSTICE would be served. Pray for that poor poor girl. She's gonna be scarred forever. ONLY God can help her now.

sexybrainiac
09-11-2007, 02:28 PM
This happened in Charleston, WV

waterfellablack
09-11-2007, 02:32 PM
I am so hurt reading this story and understanding the pain this person suffered for over a week.

I happen to be watching part of a movie last night called," The Hills Have Eyes". It parrelles exactly to what happened to this woman. Also another movie that I refused to watch but could not avoid viewing some of it was " tHE tEXAS cHAIN sAW" . THERE ARE SOME VERY UNCIVILIZED PEOPLE LIVINGIN IN THIS WORLD.

sexybrainiac
09-11-2007, 02:36 PM
OMG...YOU ARE SO RIGHT...i forgot about THE HILLS HAVE EYES...this DOES remind you of that.

waterfellablack
09-11-2007, 02:43 PM
This Was An Entire Family That Took Part In Mutilating This Young Woman. I Would Not Put It Past Them That They Have Done Something Similar To This Before. This Is A Hate Crime To The Tenth Power.

We Need To Flood E-mails To All The Networks Who Are Not Reporting This Story On A Continous Basis. Call Senators And Congressmans And All Diff. News Paper.

There Is Something We Can Do.

If You Have Any Email Addresses Or Phone Numbers, Please Post Them

Signed, Feed Up

hurricain1
09-11-2007, 02:45 PM
This is DISGUSTING....reminds me of Deliverance and TX Chainsaw Massacre rolled in one. I hope white people read this story about this woman and make up a damn excuse for this foolishness.

Just to let you know I am white and I have read this story. In fact I emailed this story to Michael Baisden.com at 8:40 am, Sept 11, to make sure the story gets out. I can't speak for everyone but I do give a damm and I do want this hate to end.

sexybrainiac
09-11-2007, 02:56 PM
Not many white folks take your stance on admitting to a problem that really is a problem in a part of the society that black folks can't control or influence. Racism, as we deal with it in a racist society that happens to be white, is a white folk problem that white folk need to solve. So I applaud white folks who don't run to the denial of it.

cher
09-11-2007, 04:07 PM
i dont believe there ever random acts of violances. i will never walk down the street not being aware of the next person. i dont know the whole situation with this young lady that was viciously violated, however the bond set is not nearly enough for those animals. our justice system has let our enemies know they can violate us in any way they choose and it is not a high price put in place for their vicious crimes. the entire situation makes me really afraid and worried for so many reasons. i will pray for the young lady and her family, to find some kind of strength to cope with what has happened and continues to happen to all of us in some way. God Bless us all..

NiniDread
09-11-2007, 04:31 PM
I cannot wrap my brain around why someone would think this would be ok, fun, or whatever to do to another human being. And on top of that, because of the color of their skin. It makes me want to go to work dressed in black everyday. I am not less than. I am human. I have GOD given rights to be here and exist and do and succeed like anyone else. <SIGH>

vonmiwi
09-11-2007, 04:31 PM
Charges reduced for another 'Jena Six' member </apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/NEWS01/709110323>
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JENA -- Four of the five Jena High School students charged as adults with attempted murder in the Dec. 4 attack on a fellow student have had their charges reduced.more» </apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/NEWS01/709110323> www.thetowntalk.com

vonmiwi
09-11-2007, 04:58 PM
NEW YORK (AP) -- Kanye West blames MTV for Britney Spears' less than stellar performance at the Video Music Awards. "Man, they were just trying to get ratings, and they knew she wasn't ready and they exploited her," the 29-year-old rapper said Tuesday on Sirius Satellite Radio's "The Morning Mash Up."
"They exploited her, they played me and I really don't mess with MTV," he said.

MTV will play some of their music as long as they are poular with the white kids. MTV will not play any of their music that they feel is degrading to women, but BET sure will because many of us don't complain. Many of us are
emphatic to the cause. When are these rappers going to realize that they are pawns in America's downfall of our society and culture as a whole. Sure they are making money, but the ''Man'' is making much more. Kanye has stated his dislike for President Bush but he and others are still silent about a lot of other topics. I don't look for them to solve the problems that our people face. I do feel that he and others share some kind of responsibility to positively motivate the youth of today. After all most kids emulate these rappers and the like. As I told my son " If you want to emulate someone, always find someone who is doing something positive."

Frazierm43
09-11-2007, 04:59 PM
When faced with unthinkable acts like this its hard to turn the other cheek. We have got to come together and become stronger. The longer we accept this form of treatment the more its going to continue. Lets call on our Black leaders, organize our resources and hold them accountable. Thats what a Black man can do.


MWF

Choklit718
09-11-2007, 05:10 PM
I love all of you and I hate to hear this type of stuff !! People we need to come together as one and stop letting America play us.......
We continue to get abused because we allow abuse !!!
Empower Yourselves People.......

vonmiwi
09-11-2007, 05:19 PM
LaSalle official: No damage to Goodpine school </apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/NEWS01/709110321>
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JENA -- Initial reports that $10,000 damage was done Sunday to Goodpine Middle School aren't true, LaSalle Parish Schools Superintendent Roy Breithaupt said Monday. more » </apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/NEWS01/709110321> www.thetowntalk.com

If this is not outright racism, then I don't know what it is? Not only is this deliberate racism, it's harassment. Seems to me that the people of Jena are afraid to relinquish the civil rights and their so called power to the Black citizens of this town. Read the artcle!

lovelion49
09-11-2007, 05:36 PM
What do they mean "investigating this as a POSIBLE hate crime"? Torturing a person like this for a week while slowly allowing them to die (had not the cops found her in time), shows that there is nothing in their hearts but PURE HATE.

I'm appalled that this is going on in 2007. The days of hidden racism is over. We are now being forced to face it head on. Let's do this together people!!!!

AlphaMan06
09-11-2007, 06:40 PM
You see, this is the type of crap that keeps Black Americans on edge. That poor child will never EVER be the same again. After years of being beatdown by White America... People want to go next level & pull this kind of crap. Bad enough Charleston, SC has some of the worst red-necks on earth. They wanna win the prize for the most vile s**t ever pulled on a human being. My eyes are filling with water as I write this because I'd love to be locked up with each one of them for about an hour apiece. I believe that JUSTICE would be served. Pray for that poor poor girl. She's gonna be scarred forever. ONLY God can help her now.

Ok, Ok, Ok!!! This has got to be the most FUCKED UP story EVER!! In response to your comment about Charleston, SC having the worst red-necks ever...I can't argure about that! However, you have your Charlestons mixed up! This happened in Charleston, W.Va. NOT Charleston, SC. The girl was from this city and it has been on our local news stations. As a black man who has been raised in the south for 32 years and in Charleston for that matter, we see and read about racial issues all the time. And it's not just here, but ALL OVER THE SOUTH. The South as a whole has ALWAYS been about Black and White and it's a damn shame that even in 2007, we as blacks are STILL getting screwed by white-america. Yes, there are SOME whites who do want all of this hatred and mis-treatment of black-americans to stop, but it's a SMALL majority of them. Deep down, a part of them will ALWAYS feel that we will NEVER be equal to them. People, we will NEVER be able to change how white america treats us or looks at us until we CHANGE OURSELVES!!!!! How can we get upset and complain about things like this when EVERYDAY, we are still killing each other, fighting each other, DISRESPECTING EACH OTHER and show no signs of changing or loving each other. We can't expect whites or any other race to love us or treat us any diffrently until we change our OWN damn selves and our attitudes. We all want to talk a good game about changing things and what-not, but when push comes to shove, we want to sit the fuck back and let someone else do the fighting for us!!!! Micheal is right! We need to STAND THE HELL UP and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! What the hell did Martin, Medger, Rosa, Coretta, and all our grand-parents and great-grandparents struggle and die for?? Why the hell can't we get together and come together collectively as a family and fight together for unfair justice and treatment? Why can't we help each other out when we make it big and give back to where we come from instead of selling out and turning our backs on one another??? WHY PEOPLE, WHY????? How many of you who won't be able to make it to Jena ACTUALLY support those on the 20th and wear black in unity??? Stop getting upset and complaining and man up and woman up and be about change!!! :mad:

I am highly upset by what has happened to this young 23 yr old black woman, but unless we stand the hell up and fight for change and do it together in love and unison, things like this along with the Jena6 and remarks by Kramer and Don Imus will always continue to set us back! I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one am tired of all this BULLSHIT, and you best believe that my black ass will be down in Jena next week representin for change and fair treatment of our race and for those of my future kids!!!:mad: :mad:

dlove78
09-11-2007, 06:55 PM
I tell you revelution is coming. And it will not be Televised.

PamperingU
09-11-2007, 07:35 PM
I am so angry, that we as black people have to go through the racism, and when we react it is a crime, where as if the shoes were turned it is self defense for the white people. We have to stand together in prayer, marches, speeches, letters, and what ever else we need to do to stop this. There is no question that these people need to be strongly punished. That is sad, hurting, and upsetting to hear. We have to stop this soon, because we as black people is going to get to the point to where we can take anymore then there will be war in America(blacks against whites).

Yeah, it is unreal--the hate that some people still (and not just white people) have for Blacks. That's why we have to stop depending on others to do our bidding and take care of ourselves. There is not one thing I can think of that we couldn't do if we supported each other. We have black owned businesses, banks, politicians, doctors, lawyers, etc. and a lot of black people with a whole lot of money. We could turn this around--if we really wanted to.

The only thing that will stop all of this madness is if other races start to feel the economic burn...if only we could get Blacks to support each other and stop giving their money (and their lives) to people who don't respect them. SMH...

PamperingU
09-11-2007, 07:49 PM
Yeah, I posted this story yesterday (guess it was moved 'cause I can't find my original post now) and I am still in shock and the sheer EVIL of this situation.

Ok, here's what we can do about all of this hate, racism and discrimination...dry up their money flow!!! That's the only thing that's going to save these people from their feelings of entitlement and superiority. We Blacks need to stop whining and start thinking, planing and fighting. Fight back with the only thing that will get their attention: money (or the lack of our money)!

If anyone needs ideas on how we can start to take our power back, hit me up 'cause I've got lots of ideas. All I need is the support!!!

PamperingU
09-11-2007, 07:59 PM
People, we will NEVER be able to change how white america treats us or looks at us until we CHANGE OURSELVES!!!!! How can we get upset and complain about things like this when EVERYDAY, we are still killing each other, fighting each other, DISRESPECTING EACH OTHER and show no signs of changing or loving each other. We can't expect whites or any other race to love us or treat us any diffrently until we change our OWN damn selves and our attitudes. We all want to talk a good game about changing things and what-not, but when push comes to shove, we want to sit the fuck back and let someone else do the fighting for us!!!! Micheal is right! We need to STAND THE HELL UP and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!

That's right, Brother, you have said more than a mouthful! We need to stop whining and start taking of and loving ourselves and each other. IMO, we could begin to turn things around if we hit them where it hurts--in their pockets! It won't be an instant and total solution but it's a start.

grenetta b
09-11-2007, 08:03 PM
:( First I Want To Send My Condolence To The Family Of The Young Woman Abducted. My God Give Them Healing And Comfort From All The Pain She Inflict.

This Is A Sad Story To Read About Any Individual Having To Go Thru This Horrible Act. I Have Children Her Age And I Can Only Image The Agony Her Parents Went Thru Knowing She Was Missing For So Long.

Thank God He Gave That Young Woman The Strength To Make It To The Door To Save Her Life.

This Is Why We Must Educated Our Children While They Are Young
About Abduction. And Teach Them Self Defense So They Are Able To Protect Themselves. Even If Your Grown Learn Some Form Of Self-defensive Tactics. Cause We Are Living In A Cruel World Where We Have To Defend Ourselves.

It's Going To Take Alot Of Counseling And Therapy For This Young Woman. And I Pray She Has A Speedy Recovery.

God Bless Her And I Give Glory To God For Saving Her.:(

thegreatest
09-12-2007, 12:16 AM
Family as a young 23 year black man I was brought up surrounded by positive people in my life. I was taught to get an education and have been blessed to get my masters degree. In my 23 years on this earth I have seen and experienced a lot and try to take my learnings and share them so that the things I have been through can help someone on their path. I have been involved and written and/or spoke about a lot of issue that face US today. When I read this story this morning it really got to me and even as I sit here now I have to hold back the tears of hurt and anger. My question is this how do I as a young man continue to move forward and get people involved to try to make a difference when we are faced with something like this? I read all of these post about its time to stand up, but stand up and do what? What is the plan of action? I know that GOD can take care of people better then I can, but as I sit here the only thing that calms me is the thought of revenge! I would like to sit here and say as a Christan man I'm going to give it to GOD, but honestly I want someone to pay for this!

Blackman7
09-12-2007, 04:19 AM
How many times have I heard "african americans" (whatever that is) tell me, "Stop playing the race card" or "it's not about race"???

The white man has those types of black folks brainwashed indeed;

After 400 YEARS of slavery, rape, torture, oppression, and dehumanization, for them to trust WHITE FOLKS, they must be HANDICAPPED MENTALLY.

(sung to the tune: "If You Don't Know Me By Now"---By Simply Red)

If You Don't Know Whites By Now---By Blackman7

Intro: If you don't know whites by now, you will never never never know them, oooo

All the things, they've done to you,
You should understand them, like they understand you.
Now white folks know the difference, between right and wrong,
But that's never stopped them, from raping africans.

Oh, so don't get excited, when you hear about blacks being victimized,
They've been doing it for over 400 years now because "white is right".

If you don't know whites by now, you will never never never know them, oooo
If you don't know whites by now, you will never never never know them, oooo
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Seriously, this type of news pisses me off, but the more the white man kicks the black race in the behind, the more they LOVE him!

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate white people, but NEVER trust your enemies and beware of your friends!

What concerns me are those BRAINWASHED blacks who say, "There is NEVER an excuse to beat a woman". If I had busted into the house where that sista was being held and BEAT the white women who were holding her hostage, those BRAINWASHED blacks who, like parrots, recite the words of their slavemasters: ("There is NEVER an excuse to beat a woman"), instead of seeing me as a "hero", would have been calling me an "abuser" instead!

Black people need to stop letting the white man think for them and learn to think for themselves. There ARE instances when beating a woman is JUSTIFIED, and this was ONE of them!

Blackman7
09-12-2007, 08:41 AM
Oh...and I would've beaten those white boys too! :cool:

They were planning on KILLING that black woman, so I would do what I had to do!

normandavisjr
09-12-2007, 08:56 AM
It's a shame to think how enraged this nation will get over dogfighting (I'm not excusing the "sport") but won't get upset about a woman, regardless of race my black people, being forced to eat rat and dog feces while being stabbed and raped continuously.

Blackman7
09-12-2007, 09:00 AM
Bruh, you know a dog always got more respect in this country than a BLACK person. Dogs were useful in helping the slavemasters track down runaway slaves.

The white man LOVED his dogs!

thornswan
09-12-2007, 09:54 AM
I am deeply disturbed by this story. This young woman and her family will need a great deal of love, understanding and above all faith that they will overcome this gross injustice. It is my belief that after the rally in Louisiana next stop West Virginia, this story needs to stay in the forefront. Bless you all.

Shakeia Wilburn
09-12-2007, 09:57 AM
:mad: I was just emailing this article to Michael Baisden's staff. On ABC news website they have video footage of the victim hospitalized in obvious pain and just pure hurt. I pray that despite her being brutally tortured and abused, that God is with her and her family, and that her spirit is not torn. The people involved are disgusting. I agree with the Carmen Williams, who is the victim( Megan Williams) mother when she said " I don't understand a human being doing another human being, the way they did my daughter". This young lady was told by these disgusting people that she was being treated this was because she was black, and the "n" word was used several time. They stabbed her, cut her ankles, sexually raped her, at one point poured hot water on her while she was being raped. They forced her to drink toilet water and mase her eat rat and dog feces. Officials should not even have to question if this was a hate crime. It is so clear that yes it was. As a matter of fact it is beyond hate, this is pure evil and sick. And I truly hope that Bill Crowley, spokesman for the FBI in Pittsburgh does investigate and charge these 6 poeple with civil rights violations. Just like the Jena 6, we gotta stand and not let this case go without justice being done. This woman needs our prayers and total support.

Shakeia Wilburn
09-12-2007, 10:11 AM
In response to your comment about these issues have been going on for many many years. I agree with you. Though they are sick and evil, the truth is that they have been. I was born an raised in NY, and have been living in the south for 2 years now. When I talk about these latest issues going on in the news right now, most of them have the same response, "Welcome to the South". They are not suprised because it has been going on for so long, that it is almost looked at as being the "norm" in alot of peoples eyes. I have family, here that has lived in small southern towns there entire lives who say, these experiences happen everyday. More often than people think. For every one or two incidents that make mews headlines, are are about 100 more that go unheard of. That they live there lives with some sense of fear, because there voices are not heard, because they feel as though they are out numbered. The town I live in, still has klan meetings in the center of town. The old courthouse is considered a historial site, because slaves were auctioned and sold in front of the courthouse to the public. These things are happening today in 2007. So I totally feel where you are coming from. It just hurt so much to see my people still going through this.

blackparent
09-12-2007, 10:11 AM
Before I can trust a non-black, I have to really know them. In my almost 30 years, I haven't met one that I can really know yet. When I see a white person, my first thought is always, "what do they really think about blacks?" My answer always is that they probably have some bias against blacks.
That's what I think other blacks should think. I know we all want to act and believe that equality is winning, but experience has taught me to believe otherwise. This woman in WVA, God bless her. She has learned the lesson hard.

Blackman7
09-12-2007, 10:19 AM
Just imagine all the atrocities that happened to black women (and men) when it was LEGAL.

The first blacks were brought here in 1620 and up until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (and indeed, afterwords) black folks had no rights!

Blackman7
09-12-2007, 10:35 AM
:mad: I was just emailing this article to Michael Baisden's staff. On ABC news website they have video footage of the victim hospitalized in obvious pain and just pure hurt. I pray that despite her being brutally tortured and abused, that God is with her and her family, and that her spirit is not torn. The people involved are disgusting. I agree with the Carmen Williams, who is the victim( Megan Williams) mother when she said " I don't understand a human being doing another human being, the way they did my daughter". This young lady was told by these disgusting people that she was being treated this was because she was black, and the "n" word was used several time. They stabbed her, cut her ankles, sexually raped her, at one point poured hot water on her while she was being raped. They forced her to drink toilet water and mase her eat rat and dog feces. Officials should not even have to question if this was a hate crime. It is so clear that yes it was. As a matter of fact it is beyond hate, this is pure evil and sick. And I truly hope that Bill Crowley, spokesman for the FBI in Pittsburgh does investigate and charge these 6 poeple with civil rights violations. Just like the Jena 6, we gotta stand and not let this case go without justice being done. This woman needs our prayers and total support.

Like you, my heart goes out to the victim, but quiet as it's kept, that's how MANY of todays so called "african americans" got here.(their foremothers being raped during and after slavery)

Blackman7
09-12-2007, 10:47 AM
I don't hate white people, because to do so would be to stoop to their level.

Genesis 2:13 places the Garden of Eden near ETHIOPIA.

It was THERE where man was created in the image and likeness of GOD!

Blackman7
09-12-2007, 11:06 AM
Before I can trust a non-black, I have to really know them. In my almost 30 years, I haven't met one that I can really know yet. When I see a white person, my first thought is always, "what do they really think about blacks?" My answer always is that they probably have some bias against blacks.
That's what I think other blacks should think. I know we all want to act and believe that equality is winning, but experience has taught me to believe otherwise. This woman in WVA, God bless her. She has learned the lesson hard.

I agree. I've heard MANY sistas sing the praises of their white man. Maybe it's a wake up call!

sexybrainiac
09-12-2007, 11:30 AM
Ok, Ok, Ok!!! This has got to be the most FUCKED UP story EVER!! In response to your comment about Charleston, SC having the worst red-necks ever...I can't argure about that! However, you have your Charlestons mixed up! This happened in Charleston, W.Va. NOT Charleston, SC. The girl was from this city and it has been on our local news stations. As a black man who has been raised in the south for 32 years and in Charleston for that matter, we see and read about racial issues all the time. And it's not just here, but ALL OVER THE SOUTH. The South as a whole has ALWAYS been about Black and White and it's a damn shame that even in 2007, we as blacks are STILL getting screwed by white-america. Yes, there are SOME whites who do want all of this hatred and mis-treatment of black-americans to stop, but it's a SMALL majority of them. Deep down, a part of them will ALWAYS feel that we will NEVER be equal to them. People, we will NEVER be able to change how white america treats us or looks at us until we CHANGE OURSELVES!!!!! How can we get upset and complain about things like this when EVERYDAY, we are still killing each other, fighting each other, DISRESPECTING EACH OTHER and show no signs of changing or loving each other. We can't expect whites or any other race to love us or treat us any diffrently until we change our OWN damn selves and our attitudes. We all want to talk a good game about changing things and what-not, but when push comes to shove, we want to sit the fuck back and let someone else do the fighting for us!!!! Micheal is right! We need to STAND THE HELL UP and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! What the hell did Martin, Medger, Rosa, Coretta, and all our grand-parents and great-grandparents struggle and die for?? Why the hell can't we get together and come together collectively as a family and fight together for unfair justice and treatment? Why can't we help each other out when we make it big and give back to where we come from instead of selling out and turning our backs on one another??? WHY PEOPLE, WHY????? How many of you who won't be able to make it to Jena ACTUALLY support those on the 20th and wear black in unity??? Stop getting upset and complaining and man up and woman up and be about change!!! :mad:

I am highly upset by what has happened to this young 23 yr old black woman, but unless we stand the hell up and fight for change and do it together in love and unison, things like this along with the Jena6 and remarks by Kramer and Don Imus will always continue to set us back! I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one am tired of all this BULLSHIT, and you best believe that my black ass will be down in Jena next week representin for change and fair treatment of our race and for those of my future kids!!!:mad: :mad:

Racism is intrenched in any eurocentric society such as this one. Racism is institutionalized and systemic. It is not a BLACK issue nor can we irradicate it. It is an issue that white folks have to own up to and address within their communities and society as a whole! This will continue to go on UNTIL THEY own up and do their part. Racism is not localized to the southern region of this country it is ingrained in this country's institutions and people have GOT to wake up.

sexybrainiac
09-12-2007, 11:33 AM
Bruh, you know a dog always got more respect in this country than a BLACK person. Dogs were useful in helping the slavemasters track down runaway slaves.

The white man LOVED his dogs!

Wonder how much he loved BLACK FOLKS who also helped to enslave other black folks..........hmmmmm

sexybrainiac
09-12-2007, 11:38 AM
In response to your comment about these issues have been going on for many many years. I agree with you. Though they are sick and evil, the truth is that they have been. I was born an raised in NY, and have been living in the south for 2 years now. When I talk about these latest issues going on in the news right now, most of them have the same response, "Welcome to the South". They are not suprised because it has been going on for so long, that it is almost looked at as being the "norm" in alot of peoples eyes. I have family, here that has lived in small southern towns there entire lives who say, these experiences happen everyday. More often than people think. For every one or two incidents that make mews headlines, are are about 100 more that go unheard of. That they live there lives with some sense of fear, because there voices are not heard, because they feel as though they are out numbered. The town I live in, still has klan meetings in the center of town. The old courthouse is considered a historial site, because slaves were auctioned and sold in front of the courthouse to the public. These things are happening today in 2007. So I totally feel where you are coming from. It just hurt so much to see my people still going through this.

I'm born and raised in the deep south SC but live in the south (not so south) DC METRO. That kind of thing is NOT expected in "the south", to use a hugely general term. Additionally, this kind of inhumane treatment of someone because of skin color happens everywhere. NYC is the most racially segregated place I'd ever seen and Lord knows racism is big there too. Again, people, this thing called racism is institutionalized in this country no matter what you think. This country was built on the backs of black slaves and anywhere colonialism was allowed to thrive, you will find these kind of racist sentiments against dark people. Know the history and culture of the oppressor and you'll see from a global perspective.

Deav
09-12-2007, 12:10 PM
I too was about to post this most vicious of crimes that I have heard about since the torture of African-Americans during the civil rights movements. Racism always rears it ugly head when it is mixed with ignorance and hate. It is only ignorance and hate that could make someone do that to a young woman. To her mother I say stay strong, because we as black people are really paying attention, and she is not alone.

AlphaMan06
09-12-2007, 12:12 PM
Yeah, it is unreal--the hate that some people still (and not just white people) have for Blacks. That's why we have to stop depending on others to do our bidding and take care of ourselves. There is not one thing I can think of that we couldn't do if we supported each other. We have black owned businesses, banks, politicians, doctors, lawyers, etc. and a lot of black people with a whole lot of money. We could turn this around--if we really wanted to.

The only thing that will stop all of this madness is if other races start to feel the economic burn...if only we could get Blacks to support each other and stop giving their money (and their lives) to people who don't respect them. SMH...

See, that's what I'm talking about right there! SUPPORT FOR ONE ANOTHER!!! The only way that a change in this world is going to TRULY come about is through economic change. We have black doctors, lawyers, black owned BANKS (ie One United Bank...check them out online @ oneunitedbank.com) and other black owned business and professionals and we don't support them! We are too busy giving our hard earned money to those companies and people that don't give two cents about our black asses!!! As a young black professional in the architecture profession, I VERY SELDOM meet any clients who are also black. The majority of people in my profession are older white men and when I try to promote my professional services outside the firm I work for to my own people, they look all surprized and shocked like I'm in the wrong profession. Case in point being is this: We know MANY people of color in professions and areas that can help us out, but we refuse to do business with them. We want to make our enemies pockets fat with our hard earned money. I never understood how we as african-americans can continue to work hard for other races and help them build up their wealth, stocks, and finances and at the same time we go second class, and continue to get poorer by the minute. We need to wake up and re-evalute our situations on alot of things. STOP SUPPORTING AND LOVING YOUR ENIMIES and start loving and supporting each other. When we do this it will be a small start but it will make a BIG diffrence in the long run. Then maybe, just maybe things will begin to TRULY change.:)

AlphaMan06
09-12-2007, 12:33 PM
One other thing...
I'm not saying that only Whites have this type of hatred towards blacks, but ALL races and certain "classes" of people have some type of hatred or stereotype towards another person of a different race or status! Just look back at past and present history concerning Jews and Hitler, Indians and Europeans, Blacks and Whites, The Educated Elite and The Non-Educated Poor...this has got to stop. We need to be what society has label this country...an American Melting Pot! Yesterday the country and the world took time out to remember those who lost their lives tragically on Sep. 11 2001! A few days right after ALL races in this country were referred to as Americans! Not Black, White, Rich, Poor, Niggers, Crackers, or any of that other mess. It was all love and caring in one united unison. We all shared tears of disbelief and horror as those who REALLY don't care about us truly showed their feelings of hatred and racism. It wasn't showed because we were of a different race or social status; it was showed because we are AMERICANS! Think about that!

bchadwick
09-12-2007, 12:51 PM
Is this 2007? My heart goes out to this woman and her family. My prayer is for her to have a speedy recovery and than the courage and strength to help in the prosecution of her captives. Thank God for the anoynmous tip that came in that aided in her rescue. There is a Marvin Gaye song that is in my head at this moment and the only words I can hear are "makes me wanna holla". Can someone please give me the title of the song? Thank you.

nersh
09-12-2007, 02:13 PM
Heard about this earlier today. What is going on with people? Making someone eat feces, continually raping and beating this young lady for a week or more. But what's great is that she is not scared to be identified. She and her mom want the world to know what these nuts did to her.

Peace and Many Blessings to them both

Nersh

Blackman7
09-12-2007, 02:20 PM
Wonder how much he loved BLACK FOLKS who also helped to enslave other black folks..........hmmmmm

I don't know, but the 12th President of the United States, Andrew Jackson, was also a slaveowner. He once ordered that a slave named Betty recieve 40 lashes because he "didn't like her attitude"(she probably wouldn't give him no ____). After recieving her 40 lashes(remember Kunte Kinte?), he said that if she ever made him angry again, the NEXT time he would have her beaten PUBLICALLY. (I'm sure those white folks would have loved that!)

Anyway, on Jackson's estate called the Hermitage, he had his 2 favorite slaves buried nearby him. It's a popular tourist attraction in Tennessee.

If you ever go there, you'll find that their slave quarters was FAR SUPERIOR to the OTHER slave quarters.

The HOUSE NEGROES got a few extra crumbs, just like Powell, Rice, and Connerly!

Big Deezle
09-12-2007, 02:25 PM
I guess Michael Vick and the Dog fighting was worse than what is going on here! Is the treatment of this woman not as important as the treatment of those dogs? Where is the Outrage? Senator Byrd from West Virginia should be on the floor yelling about the treatment of this girl!

ChildoftheKing
09-12-2007, 02:27 PM
Who is there for her. Who is helping her through this. The whole world should rally around this woman and the town and make sure these 6 whites don't get off. this woman need s a fressh start. Where is Oprah, Montell, Tyra, Geraldo, Anderson Cooper on this story. Oprah should have been all on top of this. Al Sharpton and Mike B I am sure will be there to provide support to her. She neeeds a therapist and encouragement and then some. This is why JEna 6 movement is so important.

ChildoftheKing
09-12-2007, 02:32 PM
Everybody who have something reach out to her. If I had the money like Oprah and most of the rich entertainers etc. I would make sure this woman is taking care of. I would provide for her a safe venue to live with loving surroundings. I would make sure she see the good doctors that r sensitive to her needs. I would make sure that these 6 guys would never seee the light of day. Also make sure laws r in place to send people to prison forever who does horrible things like this.

Blackman7
09-12-2007, 02:40 PM
Who is there for her. Who is helping her through this. The whole world should rally around this woman and the town and make sure these 6 whites don't get off. this woman need s a fressh start. Where is Oprah, Montell, Tyra, Geraldo, Anderson Cooper on this story. Oprah should have been all on top of this. Al Sharpton and Mike B I am sure will be there to provide support to her. She neeeds a therapist and encouragement and then some. This is why JEna 6 movement is so important.

Oprah ain't got time for black folks. I knew that when she said her "cousin", Lisa Marie Presley, was gonna be on her show yesterday! :confused:

Blackman7
09-12-2007, 02:47 PM
Heard about this earlier today. What is going on with people? Making someone eat feces, continually raping and beating this young lady for a week or more. But what's great is that she is not scared to be identified. She and her mom want the world to know what these nuts did to her.

Peace and Many Blessings to them both

Nersh

What is going ON with these people??? The SAME thing that's been going on in this land for over 400 years!

Rainey!
09-12-2007, 02:50 PM
intend to get in touch with the family - i want my organization to help MOVE THEM OUT of that area, get her back into school and she needs counseling. what is so sad abt this is ---- just the other day i was saying, wonder how many children are being hurt and cant get away.

apparently, from stories i'm hearing and a resource - she knew them from the internet. parents....even though she was older...i cant imagine what her parents were feeling. and her pictures....bless her heart.

i'm trying to find out - if they reported her missing.

Rainey!
09-12-2007, 02:56 PM
I am deeply disturbed by this story. This young woman and her family will need a great deal of love, understanding and above all faith that they will overcome this gross injustice. It is my belief that after the rally in Louisiana next stop West Virginia, this story needs to stay in the forefront. Bless you all.

exactly. i have a few phone calls in the works. i am sick of things happening to children - wait, i am sick of the media drawing attention to the wrong things happening in this world. i am tired of it. i intend to stop it.

sweetheart112
09-12-2007, 03:11 PM
Why are none of the major news stations running this story?? One of the attackers was just released from jail for manslaughter several years ago, for killing an elderly woman. Why is her bail $100,000. They made this poor woman eat rat and dog feces, while raping her and burning her with hot water, stabbing her, all while calling her the "N" word. Why have we not heard anything about this. The six people arrested for this had over 108 criminal complaints with the police in their town. Now is this was Natalie Hollaway, or Lacy Peterson (GOD bless both of them) this would be on televison around the clock. Something is wrong with this picture.

Miss_Christmas
09-12-2007, 03:26 PM
They're not going to charge them with a hate crime yall!! We need to do something about this story also!!! :mad:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20737211/

Updated: 13 minutes ago
BIG CREEK, W.Va. - Six white suspects accused of torturing a young black woman for days in West Virginia will not face federal hate crime charges, Justice Department officials told NBC News on Wednesday.

At one point, an assailant cut the woman’s ankle with a knife and used the N-word in telling her she was victimized because she is black, according to the criminal complaints.

The Justice Department said it will defer to West Virginia in prosecuting the six suspects.

Logan County Prosecutor Brian Abraham said his office would pursue other charges first because they carry stiffer penalties. West Virginia’s hate crime law carries a sentence of up to 10 years.

Also Wednesday, Abraham said the woman, who allegedly was sexually assaulted and forced to eat rat droppings, was not a random target.

One of the six suspects arrested in the case, Bobby Brewster, had a previous relationship with the victim, Abraham said. He said Brewster had been charged in July with domestic battery and assault after a domestic dispute involving the same woman.

“She obviously had some sort of social relationship,” Abraham said. “That is based on the fact that she was present at his residence on a prior date.”

If true, that evidence would undercut the hate crime law, which applies to crimes motivated by racial hatred and not by non-race-related conflicts.

Grisly details
Megan Williams, 20, was found beaten and bruised at Brewster’s mother’s home in rural Big Creek on Saturday.

MSNBC.com generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault, but Williams and her mother agreed to release her name. Carmen Williams, Megan William's mother, said she wanted people to know what her daughter had endured.

According to the criminal complaints, Williams’ captors, all of them white, choked her with a cable cord and stabbed her in the leg while calling her a racial slur, poured hot water over her, made her drink from a toilet and made her eat dog feces and rat droppings.

She was also beaten and sexually assaulted during a span of about a week, according to the complaints.

It wasn’t until an anonymous tip led Logan County Sheriff’s deputies to the property on Saturday that her ordeal ended. She limped toward the deputies, her arms outstretched as she cried, “Help me!”

“I didn’t know there were people like that out here,” Carmen Williams said Tuesday from her daughter’s hospital room.

Previous arrest records
Police tape now surrounds the entrances to the beige-and-brown mobile home. An extension cord runs from the home to a cramped shed where authorities believe Megan Williams was held with a portable stereo, a locker and a power saw.

The suspects in the case have previous arrest records going back several years, according to records from Logan County Magistrate Court, and Abraham said he had “some familiarity with all those individuals.”

Since 1991, police have filed 108 criminal charges against the six.

Brewster’s mother, Frankie Brewster, 49, faced the most serious charges among them. She was charged in 1994 with first-degree murder, but pleaded guilty to lesser charges of manslaughter and wanton endangerment. She was released from prison in 2000 after serving five years in the death of 84-year-old Polly T. Ferrell, court records show.

Six in custody
In Williams’ case, Frankie Brewster is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony investigation.

Bobby Brewster, 24, also of Big Creek, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony.

Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding.

Karen Burton, 46, of Chapmanville was charged with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.

Burton’s daughter, Alisha Burton, 23, and George A. Messer, 27, both of Chapmanville, are charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery. She previously faced charges of assault during the commission of a felony and battery; in May, she was accused of striking Messer with a shovel and smashing the window of a woman’s car. The charges are pending.

All six remained in custody Wednesday in lieu of $100,000 bail each.

Public Defender Dwyane Adkins, appointed to represent Bobby Brewster, declined to comment on the case. The other defendants’ court-appointed lawyers were either in hearings or did not immediately return telephone calls Wednesday.

The home at Big Creek is quiet now. Newborn pups sleep in the entryway to the small shed, their mother protectively barking at approaching strangers.

Megan Williams, her right arm in a cast, may be well enough to leave the hospital within a few days, her mother said.

“I just want my daughter to be well and recover,” Carmen Williams said. “I know the Lord can do anything.”

Rainey!
09-12-2007, 03:27 PM
Why are none of the major news stations running this story?? One of the attackers was just released from jail for manslaughter several years ago, for killing an elderly woman. Why is her bail $100,000. They made this poor woman eat rat and dog feces, while raping her and burning her with hot water, stabbing her, all while calling her the "N" word. Why have we not heard anything about this. The six people arrested for this had over 108 criminal complaints with the police in their town. Now is this was Natalie Hollaway, or Lacy Peterson (GOD bless both of them) this would be on televison around the clock. Something is wrong with this picture.

i'm raising hell to some folks....we are headed to WEST VIRGInia next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rainey!
09-12-2007, 03:30 PM
They're not going to charge them with a hate crime yall!! We need to do something about this story also!!! :mad:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20737211/

Updated: 13 minutes ago
BIG CREEK, W.Va. - Six white suspects accused of torturing a young black woman for days in West Virginia will not face federal hate crime charges, Justice Department officials told NBC News on Wednesday.

At one point, an assailant cut the woman’s ankle with a knife and used the N-word in telling her she was victimized because she is black, according to the criminal complaints.

The Justice Department said it will defer to West Virginia in prosecuting the six suspects.

Logan County Prosecutor Brian Abraham said his office would pursue other charges first because they carry stiffer penalties. West Virginia’s hate crime law carries a sentence of up to 10 years.

Also Wednesday, Abraham said the woman, who allegedly was sexually assaulted and forced to eat rat droppings, was not a random target.

One of the six suspects arrested in the case, Bobby Brewster, had a previous relationship with the victim, Abraham said. He said Brewster had been charged in July with domestic battery and assault after a domestic dispute involving the same woman.

“She obviously had some sort of social relationship,” Abraham said. “That is based on the fact that she was present at his residence on a prior date.”

If true, that evidence would undercut the hate crime law, which applies to crimes motivated by racial hatred and not by non-race-related conflicts.

Grisly details
Megan Williams, 20, was found beaten and bruised at Brewster’s mother’s home in rural Big Creek on Saturday.

MSNBC.com generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault, but Williams and her mother agreed to release her name. Carmen Williams, Megan William's mother, said she wanted people to know what her daughter had endured.

According to the criminal complaints, Williams’ captors, all of them white, choked her with a cable cord and stabbed her in the leg while calling her a racial slur, poured hot water over her, made her drink from a toilet and made her eat dog feces and rat droppings.

She was also beaten and sexually assaulted during a span of about a week, according to the complaints.

It wasn’t until an anonymous tip led Logan County Sheriff’s deputies to the property on Saturday that her ordeal ended. She limped toward the deputies, her arms outstretched as she cried, “Help me!”

“I didn’t know there were people like that out here,” Carmen Williams said Tuesday from her daughter’s hospital room.

Previous arrest records
Police tape now surrounds the entrances to the beige-and-brown mobile home. An extension cord runs from the home to a cramped shed where authorities believe Megan Williams was held with a portable stereo, a locker and a power saw.

The suspects in the case have previous arrest records going back several years, according to records from Logan County Magistrate Court, and Abraham said he had “some familiarity with all those individuals.”

Since 1991, police have filed 108 criminal charges against the six.

Brewster’s mother, Frankie Brewster, 49, faced the most serious charges among them. She was charged in 1994 with first-degree murder, but pleaded guilty to lesser charges of manslaughter and wanton endangerment. She was released from prison in 2000 after serving five years in the death of 84-year-old Polly T. Ferrell, court records show.

Six in custody
In Williams’ case, Frankie Brewster is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony investigation.

Bobby Brewster, 24, also of Big Creek, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony.

Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding.

Karen Burton, 46, of Chapmanville was charged with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.

Burton’s daughter, Alisha Burton, 23, and George A. Messer, 27, both of Chapmanville, are charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery. She previously faced charges of assault during the commission of a felony and battery; in May, she was accused of striking Messer with a shovel and smashing the window of a woman’s car. The charges are pending.

All six remained in custody Wednesday in lieu of $100,000 bail each.

Public Defender Dwyane Adkins, appointed to represent Bobby Brewster, declined to comment on the case. The other defendants’ court-appointed lawyers were either in hearings or did not immediately return telephone calls Wednesday.

The home at Big Creek is quiet now. Newborn pups sleep in the entryway to the small shed, their mother protectively barking at approaching strangers.

Megan Williams, her right arm in a cast, may be well enough to leave the hospital within a few days, her mother said.

“I just want my daughter to be well and recover,” Carmen Williams said. “I know the Lord can do anything.”

i'm in touch with folks now. this is next!!!!!!!!

bonebody
09-12-2007, 03:38 PM
Good afternoon family. A sad state of affairs for the country right now. It's good to see and hear people talking about the matters, but what are really going to do??? I applaude my brother Michael Baisden for setting it off and getting "mad" and not standing for the b.s. that is plaguing not only black people, but the entire nation and entire world for that matter. Somebody said that the revolution is coming and that it won't be televised. I beg to differ. I say that the revolution is now and it's been televised for years, but people have not been giving notice to it because it "don't affect me directly". Everything that happens in this world affects each and every one of us. No, a particular issue may not reflect you directly today, but guaranteed the results of that issue will surely run down hill, as does all shit.

I've been telling people that I know for years that it's time for a change. It's time for a movement and like Mike has mentioned many times on his show, this is our time, this generation is the one that needs to make the biggest move and not let up. We need to stand up and fight, not with our fists, not with our anger, but with our minds, our love. For years the chips have been stacked against us all. There was a seed planted in our ancestors minds years ago that still affects us till this day. It began on the bank of the James River and continues to affect us as a people today. It's time that we really recognize what is going on around us, accept that there is a problem, define what that problem is and finds ways to plant a new seed in the minds and hearts of this world. It's much bigger than black and white, brown and yellow, man and woman. It's about the ultimate survival of our entire species. For some reason the powers that be don't want there to be peace and equality, they don't want everybody to be free or know the truth of our existence in this realm. It's all about power and control. It won't stop, for them, until there is truly one power who has ultimate control. They are trying to give themselves the power that only one supreme being is supposed to have. They want power so badly that they care not who they destroy in their path, whose civil liberities they are violating, what freedoms we are all entitled to.

It's time that we stand up and get mad. It's time that we band together and use our minds and change the direction of which we are going. We need to do these things before it's too late. One day we're going to wake up in world that we cannot do anything without the government knowing our every move (RFID chips), where we have to live in a certain matter and only talk about what is approved by the powers that be (censorship). But that's only if we allow this to happen. Our original government was made for the people and by the people, it's time that WE the people take that power back......

Thank you for allowing me to share my thoughts.....

moved2act
09-12-2007, 03:49 PM
Hey family! I'm new to the boards. I felt compelled to become a member after reading this story. I'm not sure why we're all so surprised..have we forgotten the founding principles and values of this country? We had a document drafted, signed, and celebrated that talked about the freedom of all, while many of the inhabitants were being hunted and slaughtered or enslaved (Native and African people).

We have to instill the right stuff in our children's hearts, souls and minds and leave all that foolishness alone. I don't give a rat's tail who's name you're wearing on your tail, or how much you paid for your designer bag. Did you pay for it with cash and do you own stock in the businesses that proudly prostitute you with your full cooperation? Let's stop letting the accumulation of things define our value. We've been doing that for years and "how ya livin"?

Teach our young folks what's really important..absolute self-respect, faith AND action make things happen, know our history (Africa and beyond), know that we deserve better and settle for nothing less.

I am, yours in the struggle.
Donna

sweet_marti39
09-12-2007, 04:07 PM
If it wasn't for this radio station, i would not know about this lady. If it wasn't for this radio station many others wouldn't know abut Jena. I have been angry for a long time now over the unjust treatment of blacks and poor. If you have no control over who you are born as, how can one claim superiority of such a thing? I wish the world was plaid, they who would hate who. If you close your eyes and step into that young ladies shoe for an instant, the reality of her situation would bring you to your knees in pain and leave you in tears. What is wrong with some people? I am glad we are all tried of the crap and have decided that enough is enough. How do you value a person's life; what will our justice system do to these animals. Talk about teaching your kids to be worthless; these parents should have been fixed before conception. This lady will have a lot of hard work ahead of her, if she want to come out OK in the end. May God Bless her, strengthen her and give her justice and victory.

Tanya36
09-12-2007, 05:55 PM
Please keep this kind of information to yourself this so not importantNEW YORK (AP) -- Kanye West blames MTV for Britney Spears' less than stellar performance at the Video Music Awards. "Man, they were just trying to get ratings, and they knew she wasn't ready and they exploited her," the 29-year-old rapper said Tuesday on Sirius Satellite Radio's "The Morning Mash Up."
"They exploited her, they played me and I really don't mess with MTV," he said.

MTV will play some of their music as long as they are poular with the white kids. MTV will not play any of their music that they feel is degrading to women, but BET sure will because many of us don't complain. Many of us are
emphatic to the cause. When are these rappers going to realize that they are pawns in America's downfall of our society and culture as a whole. Sure they are making money, but the ''Man'' is making much more. Kanye has stated his dislike for President Bush but he and others are still silent about a lot of other topics. I don't look for them to solve the problems that our people face. I do feel that he and others share some kind of responsibility to positively motivate the youth of today. After all most kids emulate these rappers and the like. As I told my son " If you want to emulate someone, always find someone who is doing something positive."

ncllady
09-12-2007, 06:00 PM
Everytime i think about what happened to that young lady i just get sick to my stomach, but i know its not about me, its about us as a strong race. To do those horrible things to anyone is crazy, and it wouldn't surprise me if some of the defendants screamed insanity. Yes they were insane to do such things to a person because of the color of their skin. Megan Williams is a very stong young lady to endure such cruelty done to her. Those 6 sorry white trash should be made to pay dearly for their crimes...

Blackman7
09-12-2007, 06:11 PM
Also Wednesday, Abraham said the woman, who allegedly was sexually assaulted and forced to eat rat droppings, was not a random target.

One of the six suspects arrested in the case, Bobby Brewster, had a previous relationship with the victim, Abraham said. He said Brewster had been charged in July with domestic battery and assault after a domestic dispute involving the same woman.

“She obviously had some sort of social relationship,” Abraham said. “That is based on the fact that she was present at his residence on a prior date.”

Never trust your enemies and beware of your friends---Confucius

Blackman7
09-12-2007, 08:48 PM
I guess Michael Vick and the Dog fighting was worse than what is going on here! Is the treatment of this woman not as important as the treatment of those dogs? Where is the Outrage? Senator Byrd from West Virginia should be on the floor yelling about the treatment of this girl!

Wasn't Senator Byrd formally with the Ku Klux Klan?

I hate what happened to the sista, but she shouldn't have been dating those white boys anyway.

Even after 400 years, some blacks STILL can't recognize their enemies.

Gaia
09-12-2007, 10:14 PM
Is it me, or does it seem strange that few cases ever qualify as a hate crime when the victim is black and the assailant is white--keep in mind then gov't George W. Bush opposed a hate crime legislation after the dragging death of James Byrd (1998) by three confirmed white supremacists. The James Byrd Hate Crime Act wasn't passed until 2001 by Bush's successor in the grand state of Texas--kudos to Rick Perry. The rhetoric is spread thick in the discussion of how racism continues to plague this country, but the vast majority of white America remains reluctant to label blatant acts as such--e.g. Jena six, Hurricane Katrina, the media coverage around the Duke Lacrosse incident, and of course our good friend Imus. Such cases are always an isolated incident, and black America is over reacting. I have yet to recall a case perpetrated against black and brown people, and white America in consensus agrees that it was an act of racism--a hate crime. My question is this--why is it that we, the collective we, assume that racism in the heart could be regulated by laws. The laws of the land are subject to the interpretation of the same men that sported hoods as they castrated and murdered young black men in the south. The laws on the books forced a change in behavior, but it did nothing for the heart of these racists. These same racists have since time had families and raised sons and daughters, and what do you think they taught that generation. This country is at a cross road, and we must address and rectify two original sins that this country birthed--racism and sexism, and until that occurs, We(America) will never reach our fullest potential.
The jury is still out on the particulars of this case (West Virginia) as the details slowly make its way to the masses, but our current justice system leaves a great deal to be desired. Lady justice appears not only to be blind, but forgetful, biting and inconsistent, and this is a scary place to be as a person of color having to depend on the system for a resolution. By the way,
it is amazing that the state has reached a decision not to seek a hate crime case in this incident. The state is still gathering the facts, but they have already ruled out a possible sanction for these six.

JustBlaze1914go3
09-13-2007, 04:13 AM
My friend told me told me about this incident on Tuesday and I was highly upset. I had to search real hard on msnbc.com in order to read about the case. But the new information on the case is what really has me upset. 1) The 6 individuals will not face federal hate crime charges although one of the assailants said she was going through all of this because she is black. What also put me in shock about this family or group of individuals. They have 108 criminal charges against them since 1991. One of the individuals committed murder (pleaded guilty and accepted manslaughter charges) and was released 5 years after being sentenced. Ok Im wondering what is she doing back out on the streets after killing someone. Please dont tell me she was granted freedom based on "GOOD Behavior". Im upset with this and the Jena 6 case, but what must we learn from all of this?? These states need to be liberated. Many of these states still act on social policies that have been in existence since the 1900's. There are particular states that still abide by the Good Ole Boy system. There still are states where blacks are not given the opportunities as other African Americans within the states. There still are individuals that believe that we are inferior to the Caucasians. These two cases should make everyone stand up and fight for whats right. It is no longer a "pro-black issue" its a pro-human issue now.

Blackman7
09-13-2007, 07:03 AM
"Also Wednesday, Abraham said the woman, who allegedly was sexually assaulted and forced to eat rat droppings, was not a random target.

One of the six suspects arrested in the case, Bobby Brewster, had a previous relationship with the victim, Abraham said. He said Brewster had been charged in July with domestic battery and assault after a domestic dispute involving the same woman.

“She obviously had some sort of social relationship,” Abraham said. “That is based on the fact that she was present at his residence on a prior date.”

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I believe it was reported that she was dating one of the individuals. That would make it more of a domestic situation than a hate crime.

Blackman7
09-13-2007, 07:08 AM
After CENTURIES of raping their foremothers, I wonder how so many black women sleep with white men.

I wonder if we'll ever speak on that? :confused:

Jazrok64
09-13-2007, 07:57 AM
Ok, Ok, Ok!!! This has got to be the most FUCKED UP story EVER!! In response to your comment about Charleston, SC having the worst red-necks ever...I can't argure about that! However, you have your Charlestons mixed up! This happened in Charleston, W.Va. NOT Charleston, SC. The girl was from this city and it has been on our local news stations. As a black man who has been raised in the south for 32 years and in Charleston for that matter, we see and read about racial issues all the time. And it's not just here, but ALL OVER THE SOUTH. The South as a whole has ALWAYS been about Black and White and it's a damn shame that even in 2007, we as blacks are STILL getting screwed by white-america. Yes, there are SOME whites who do want all of this hatred and mis-treatment of black-americans to stop, but it's a SMALL majority of them. Deep down, a part of them will ALWAYS feel that we will NEVER be equal to them. People, we will NEVER be able to change how white america treats us or looks at us until we CHANGE OURSELVES!!!!! How can we get upset and complain about things like this when EVERYDAY, we are still killing each other, fighting each other, DISRESPECTING EACH OTHER and show no signs of changing or loving each other. We can't expect whites or any other race to love us or treat us any diffrently until we change our OWN damn selves and our attitudes. We all want to talk a good game about changing things and what-not, but when push comes to shove, we want to sit the fuck back and let someone else do the fighting for us!!!! Micheal is right! We need to STAND THE HELL UP and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! What the hell did Martin, Medger, Rosa, Coretta, and all our grand-parents and great-grandparents struggle and die for?? Why the hell can't we get together and come together collectively as a family and fight together for unfair justice and treatment? Why can't we help each other out when we make it big and give back to where we come from instead of selling out and turning our backs on one another??? WHY PEOPLE, WHY????? How many of you who won't be able to make it to Jena ACTUALLY support those on the 20th and wear black in unity??? Stop getting upset and complaining and man up and woman up and be about change!!! :mad:

I am highly upset by what has happened to this young 23 yr old black woman, but unless we stand the hell up and fight for change and do it together in love and unison, things like this along with the Jena6 and remarks by Kramer and Don Imus will always continue to set us back! I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one am tired of all this BULLSHIT, and you best believe that my black ass will be down in Jena next week representin for change and fair treatment of our race and for those of my future kids!!!:mad: :mad:

BROTHER! You are absolutely right! We can not sit back and wait to see what's going to happen. :mad:

Blackman7
09-13-2007, 09:36 AM
We must first learn to keep our familes together, before we can unite as a people.

How can we unite as a PEOPLE, if we can't even unite our families???

enpowermentnow
09-13-2007, 10:11 AM
I am irrate. We see coverage on Britney Spears, Anna Nicole Smith, and Michael Vick. Michael Vick, is more notable of torturing dogs than his football record, yet, this woman who has been held hostage, raped, stabbed, doused in hot water, hair cut, and strangled with a cable cord story has not been aired on any news affiliates. I feel it's a shame and a disgrace, that citizens of the USA are more intrested in the touture of animals,than the torture of a human. If this situation was a white woman tortured by black men they would have been on every news affilate and talk show.

enpowermentnow
09-13-2007, 10:18 AM
We must first learn to keep our familes together, before we can unite as a people.

How can we unite as a PEOPLE, if we can't even unite our families???

RIGHT ON !

Blackman7
09-13-2007, 10:20 AM
I am irrate. We see coverage on Britney Spears, Anna Nicole Smith, and Michael Vick. Michael Vick, is more notable of torturing dogs than his football record, yet, this woman who has been held hostage, raped, stabbed, doused in hot water, hair cut, and strangled with a cable cord story has not been aired on any news affiliates. I feel it's a shame and a disgrace, that citizens of the USA are more intrested in the touture of animals,than the torture of a human. If this situation was a white woman tortured by black men they would have been on every news affilate and talk show.

Good point, but being in their country, what more could we expect?

sexybrainiac
09-13-2007, 10:26 AM
Oprah ain't got time for black folks. I knew that when she said her "cousin", Lisa Marie Presley, was gonna be on her show yesterday! :confused:

That's ridiculous! Oprah built two damn schools in African and they are black. She supports other sistas on the move and her Legends Ball was a great show of love for Black women on the move who she has admired and wanted to show respect for their accomplishments. She certainly supports the only black democratic presidential hopeful. Hell she has had various stories of black folks struggles on her show including the Forsythe County, GA racist situation among many other shows she's done to show people's bigotry.

sexybrainiac
09-13-2007, 10:29 AM
intend to get in touch with the family - i want my organization to help MOVE THEM OUT of that area, get her back into school and she needs counseling. what is so sad abt this is ---- just the other day i was saying, wonder how many children are being hurt and cant get away.

apparently, from stories i'm hearing and a resource - she knew them from the internet. parents....even though she was older...i cant imagine what her parents were feeling. and her pictures....bless her heart.

i'm trying to find out - if they reported her missing.

Great points. Apparently she also just ups and disappears for a week at a time which is why her parents didn't even think anything of her being gone like that. Well hope she gets the help she needs because she probably already had issues and this just was even more on top of anything she was already struggling with in life.

Blackman7
09-13-2007, 10:32 AM
That's ridiculous! Oprah built two damn schools in African and they are black. She supports other sistas on the move and her Legends Ball was a great show of love for Black women on the move who she has admired and wanted to show respect for their accomplishments. She certainly supports the only black democratic presidential hopeful. Hell she has had various stories of black folks struggles on her show including the Forsythe County, GA racist situation among many other shows she's done to show people's bigotry.

That "african school" was for GIRLS ONLY. What are the BOYS supposed to do...like Stedman, kiss the females ___???

"She certainly supports the only black democratic presidential hopeful."

Yeah. She's the idiot that told him to run. If she had a BRAIN, she would know that these racist white folks ain't gonna vote for no black man for president.

Why do you think there's pictures of dead SLAVEMASTERS on the dollar bills???
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Obama is an intelligent brotha, however. If he was a WHITE MAN, with his intelligence, he'd be president. However, he'd be a LOT smarter if he knew he didn't have a SNOWBALL'S CHANCE IN HELL...because of his skin color, of ever becoming president.

sexybrainiac
09-13-2007, 10:35 AM
Wasn't Senator Byrd formally with the Ku Klux Klan?

I hate what happened to the sista, but she shouldn't have been dating those white boys anyway.

Even after 400 years, some blacks STILL can't recognize their enemies.

What do you do when your enemy LOOKS LIKE YOU which is the case in MOST situations anyway?? Hell blacks are killing and destroying blacks in ridiculous numbers? What of that???? Because when I look at the criminal reports, majority of the atrocities committed against blacks happen BY blacks in black folks OWN communities...read about Angela Dawson of Baltimore as a blazing example. What of the brother who set his estranged wife ablaze on her job in MD and she has told everybody who will listen (including Oprah) her story.

sexybrainiac
09-13-2007, 10:36 AM
RIGHT ON !

If this is RIGHT ON then the logical conclusion to this is WHY BOTHER? JEESH!

orangebuti
09-13-2007, 10:42 AM
This angers me to the fullest to know that things like this can still happen.......how far have we really moved toward freedom....no matter what it always comes to light that RACISM STILL LIVES!!!!

Blackman7
09-13-2007, 10:55 AM
What do you do when your enemy LOOKS LIKE YOU which is the case in MOST situations anyway?? Hell blacks are killing and destroying blacks in ridiculous numbers? What of that???? Because when I look at the criminal reports, majority of the atrocities committed against blacks happen BY blacks in black folks OWN communities...read about Angela Dawson of Baltimore as a blazing example. What of the brother who set his estranged wife ablaze on her job in MD and she has told everybody who will listen (including Oprah) her story.

According to statistics, the majority of young black males convicted of violent crimes were raised without their FATHERS in the home. When black women learn to keep their FAMILIES together, hopefully it will DECREASE that sad fact.

"What of the brother who set his estranged wife ablaze on her job in MD and she has told everybody who will listen (including Oprah) her story."

I don't know, but I remember seeing the trial a SISTA who doused her husband with gasoline and set him on fire on Court TV.

Blackman7
09-13-2007, 11:12 AM
If this is RIGHT ON then the logical conclusion to this is WHY BOTHER? JEESH!

Because we STILL must fight with what we have! Even though black american women have a 63% divorce rate and 70% of all black kids are raised in homes without fathers, we must not give up hope for a brighter day! :)

bonebody
09-13-2007, 11:13 AM
But I have to disagree with the brother that said something about Obama not having a snowball chance of the presidency. If more people were to support Obama, then the outcome will be a little different. But even still he does have two strikes against him, one he's black, two he is not in bed with big business, which seems to be the only way anybody gets elected into public office these days. If you are not for business, then you can't be in higher echelons of government.

The other thing I am at odds with is the Oprah thing. Yeah I thought the same thing that she don't care about nobody, but the reasoning behind the reason she went to Africa to open these schools was to give these African girls a fair chance to do anything in the world. Also, when she wanted to open schools in America, she found that the kids didn't have the desire for an education (sad but true). She would go around and ask American kids what they wanted and they would say materialistic things like Playstations, cars, money, etc. That's what the mindset is of today's youth. That is all they are presented with. They think that material and money bring happiness but this is so not true. If we can't get the youth to understand that there is more to life than the next new game or which video is going to be #1 on 106 and Park or TRL, then we are not going to make it. Once we start taking a more active part in the upbringing of these kids, then things will start to change. I'm not talking about censoring what it is that they are seeing or whatever, but we need to be teaching them the difference between right and wrong, good and bad, entertainment and real-life.

Lastly, I see people starting to post comments being critical of what these folks should be charged with. One of the reasons why they are not pursuing the hate crime charge off the bat is because it does not carry stiff enough penalties.

"State hate crime charges, which carry a sentence of 10 years, could come later, prosecutor Brian Abraham said. State sexual assault charges carry a penalty up to 35 years in prison."

Every state has a different deviation of the federal hate crime statute. There are other things that they can charge these monsters with that will keep them in prison for life. So I just wanted to shed some light on why this is not being initially tried as a hate crime.

Blackman7
09-13-2007, 11:36 AM
But I have to disagree with the brother that said something about Obama not having a snowball chance of the presidency. If more people were to support Obama, then the outcome will be a little different.

According to statistics, blacks make up about only 12% of the population.

Seventy-five percent are white people.

Who's gonna VOTE for him, the Ku Klux Klan???

The other thing I am at odds with is the Oprah thing. Yeah I thought the same thing that she don't care about nobody, but the reasoning behind the reason she went to Africa to open these schools was to give these African girls a fair chance to do anything in the world.

The way Oprah DISRESPECTED Stedman on national TV, leads me to believe that her motive for the school was an attempt to further her goal of the EMASCULATION of BLACK MASCULINITY.(to educate the african girls over the boys, thus turning them into miniature Stedmans) :eek:

moe212
09-13-2007, 11:47 AM
I think this is so messed up how the feds are choosing not to take over this case but were so quick to step in to defend dogs. Don't get me twisted I love dogs but I love humans more. Those 6 white people should be charged with everything imaginable. The Jena 6 are being given every charge possible and the WVirginia 6 are being given every excuse possible. I see it coming the Victim in this case will soon be the Perpetrator

Blackman7
09-13-2007, 12:03 PM
I think this is so messed up how the feds are choosing not to take over this case but were so quick to step in to defend dogs. Don't get me twisted I love dogs but I love humans more. Those 6 white people should be charged with everything imaginable. The Jena 6 are being given every charge possible and the WVirginia 6 are being given every excuse possible. I see it coming the Victim in this case will soon be the Perpetrator

You're right, bruh. That's why we need to keep our families together.

No one cares about us!

Blackman7
09-13-2007, 12:11 PM
bonebody, don't get me wrong, bruh. I'll vote for Obama, and then sit back and see what WHITE PERSON wins at election time!

sexybrainiac
09-13-2007, 01:35 PM
That "african school" was for GIRLS ONLY. What are the BOYS supposed to do...like Stedman, kiss the females ___???

"She certainly supports the only black democratic presidential hopeful."

Yeah. She's the idiot that told him to run. If she had a BRAIN, she would know that these racist white folks ain't gonna vote for no black man for president.

Why do you think there's pictures of dead SLAVEMASTERS on the dollar bills???
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Obama is an intelligent brotha, however. If he was a WHITE MAN, with his intelligence, he'd be president. However, he'd be a LOT smarter if he knew he didn't have a SNOWBALL'S CHANCE IN HELL...because of his skin color, of ever becoming president.

Check your facts. The FIRST school is for girls the second is mixed population.

sexybrainiac
09-13-2007, 01:37 PM
I feel the similar way on this one but I am anxious to see how this democratic nomination bid turns out. My gut says that money wise Obama has more financial backing than people expected, which really is the heart of it when it comes to supporting the candidate and taking them seriously by the party. However, my gut tells me Hillary will get the bid.bonebody, don't get me wrong, bruh. I'll vote for Obama, and then sit back and see what WHITE PERSON wins at election time!

sexybrainiac
09-13-2007, 01:52 PM
According to statistics, the majority of young black males convicted of violent crimes were raised without their FATHERS in the home. When black women learn to keep their FAMILIES together, hopefully it will DECREASE that sad fact.

"What of the brother who set his estranged wife ablaze on her job in MD and she has told everybody who will listen (including Oprah) her story."

I don't know, but I remember seeing the trial a SISTA who doused her husband with gasoline and set him on fire on Court TV.

REgardless, TOO MANY BLACKS ARE KILLLING BLACKS. WHITE PEOPLE AREN'T OURE BIGGEST ENEMY. SAD commentary when you fear your own. IT is NOT just a problem for black women to figure out on keeping families together. MEN BEAR JUST AS MUCH RESPONSIBILTIES. MEN and WOMEN having kids with 2 or MORE PARTNERS....irresponsible and men are just as guilty as women.

Your point about the woman burning her husband....again if they are both black begs my question...what do you do when your enemy looks like you or belongs to your clan???

bonebody
09-13-2007, 01:55 PM
Without turning it into a white and black issue, people are actually split between Hilary and Obama. Nobody really knows who Obama is if you sit and think about it. Hilary is getting backing off the fact that her husband was president, sort of like the reason why Bush is in office because of his daddy. But if people really looked at policy rather than popularity, as it were, then the better money would be on Obama. He has the best chance of any black person to ever becoming president as far as I can see. But the country isn't ready for somebody to step in and actually be a president, a person, regardless of race or background, to make decisions for the people of this nation. They just want somebody, and when I say they I mean big business, that is going to cater to their greedy desires. America isn't a country any more, it's a corporation....

Check out a documentary named Zeitgeist. Google it and you will find it. I must say that this is not for anybody that does not have an open mind, it will certainly piss off some folk, especially the first part of it, but if allow yourself to get past the beginning and really look at the implications towards the end of movie, you'll know what I'm talking about when I say America is a corporation...........

LadyC1964
09-13-2007, 02:32 PM
And we live in the land of diversity?! Why aren't their bonds higher? I pray for that sister that she will heal and find peace and get justice.

ambeaubian
09-13-2007, 03:26 PM
As far as I am concerned.. Not only I am angry, irritated!!!!!!! What happen to fair representation under the law.? Who's law.? Fair representation without taxation? We are in the 99 percentile of us pay high ass taxes and we are treated as second class citizens,disposable as trash..to the rest of society. We are racially profiled, openly discriminiated aganist, demonized in the mainstream media and recieve longer jail sentences for less than captiol offenses. With no fair representation and recourse at all..We have to wake up and create our own networks and levels of protections to truly represents all of us who do not hide behind social economics of the hyprocracy that america still represents "Jim Crow has never died," It cloned it's self and manifested as the issues of today.. The two americas exists do not let propiganda of the mainstream media fool you..

I am tired of the RED NECKs and Generational KKK members who should be considered as a domestic terrorist grp and disbanded.. With the same intensity as The Black Panther Party was in late 60's and early 70's.
This young woman is scarred for life and may not ever recover from the brutalization she has recieved. I hope and pray she will recieve the help emotionally and physicially to heal the scars she has to overcome for years to come.

Blackman7
09-13-2007, 04:42 PM
REgardless, TOO MANY BLACKS ARE KILLLING BLACKS. WHITE PEOPLE AREN'T OURE BIGGEST ENEMY. SAD commentary when you fear your own. IT is NOT just a problem for black women to figure out on keeping families together. MEN BEAR JUST AS MUCH RESPONSIBILTIES. MEN and WOMEN having kids with 2 or MORE PARTNERS....irresponsible and men are just as guilty as women.

Your point about the woman burning her husband....again if they are both black begs my question...what do you do when your enemy looks like you or belongs to your clan???

You learn to choose better friends.

tonie4060
09-13-2007, 06:37 PM
I feel so sorry for our youths today. They need to put down the guns and drugs and pick up a news paper. The youth needs to turn off BET and turn on CNN. The world in the 21st century has not changed in my opinion, as far as racism, they are doing it in a more PC Political Correct way.

sasawyer
09-13-2007, 06:54 PM
Just When You Think Things Can Get No Worse, They Somehow Do! I'm Following The Jena 6 Storyand My Emotions Are On A Downward Spiral, And YES FAMILY, I'm On My Way TO JENA On 9/20. But This Has Literally Made Me Sick To My Stomach And Has Tortured The Core Of My Soul! How In The World Can Another Human Being,treat Another In Such A Mannner? This Goes Beyond A Hate Crime! These Animals Need To Have Justice SERVED Swiftly And Harshly On Them. I Pray The Young Lady Can Survive This Inhumane Experience. Though I Know It Is Going To Take Some Serious Counseling And Praying. MY Heart felt Prayers Go Out To Her And Her Family!

ntlkngthrurseclrdglsses
09-13-2007, 07:06 PM
We have become a race of reactionaries. We have long lost the revolutionary spirit of Nat Turner and Harriet Tubman. Why do we feel that we have to keep sweethearting those who deep down really dont like us. you may have a handful (one hand) of white people who were appauled at what happened to the young lady and in Jena and Katrina. However, where are they? Why do we hear from one hear and one their? Because like Paul Mooney said" black folks getting away was not in the book and they have not gotten over it". Case in point- a black man was hit crossing the street in Greenville NC by a white woman just this wednsday. Was she put in handcuffs, no. was she given a sobriety test, no. We watched as the police taped off a two block area, put her in the passenger side of an unmarked police car(that was probably watching the Mosque). The accident happened right in front of Mosque 79 in greenville. she was allowed to call her family she left the scene with family. she was allowed to take her things out of her car as if she was the victim. And what of the victim you ask? they took there time tending to him. his shoe was still in the street long after this drunk college student was allowed to leave. I say all this to say. Its time to seperate. Now we see this as a bad word. Not so. THe Amish are seperate and they function in this society. We suffer from stockholm syndrome and we need a group therapy session ASAP. Build a Nation of our own or be crushed under the weight of this racist society. if dominos pizza can build a catholic Utopia whats it gonna take for us to builds a black utopia? Mass murders? We had that with Katrina.

ntlkngthrurseclrdglsses
09-13-2007, 07:15 PM
Sexybraniac.

We know you love white people. But no matter how much you want to pin the tail on the black man who may have done you wrong, you still have to pin the tail on the honkey. We did not teach ourselves to hate each other. we are not the ones bringing drugs into our community, we are not the ones that are trying to put a CHILD in jail for 22 years for a school fight, we did not leave Black people in neck high water for three days. white people did that. We did not kidnap a black woman and savagely abuse her. white people did that. we are suffering from 400 plus years of the most brutal treatment ANY people have suffered on this earth and we are still suffering. Michael Vick gets 5 years for a dog, but the FBI can t classify a duck a duck (ie a case of racial hatred as a bias crime). you need to pick a side, because like it or not a war is coming. if you look at everything thats been going on a war is coming. Dont get caught on the wrong side. If a people wont treat you right, they wont teach you right and you are too weak to put up a fight.

mzpolitician
09-13-2007, 10:35 PM
I am so sadden at this article. I can't believe that this stuff is going on!!!!!! I can't believe it!!! I can't believe it!!!!! Why family.. are treated with such hate... Wait I know why..

meekin
09-13-2007, 10:51 PM
My heart cry out for my Sister!
There is NO JUSTICE for these type of Animals. If they did not get caught, they would have done it again and again. I do not consider these so call human beings HUMAN...THEY MUST BE PUT DOWN FOR A LIFE TIME OF REST. Their Minds are gone and their hearts are destroyed. Keep the Jena 6 Movement ALIVE!!!

Meekin

bucsfan02
09-13-2007, 11:05 PM
What are we going to post every crime by every white person to a black person what about the lady and 10 year old son that were beaten by 10 black guys then the woman was raped by all 10 and then made the son have sex with mom.Lets give these kids in Jena some help and support.Seems all were doing now is promoting RACISM.As horrific as the tragedy is what happen to the black woman the people will pay.Its a different state with different laws and they will pay.Dont hate a whole race for the bad actions of a few.If as a nation we would start looking at people as good and bad instead of black, white,asian,hispanic or whatever race things might start to change but as right now were not even close!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bucsfan02
09-13-2007, 11:16 PM
Sexybraniac.

We know you love white people. But no matter how much you want to pin the tail on the black man who may have done you wrong, you still have to pin the tail on the honkey. We did not teach ourselves to hate each other. we are not the ones bringing drugs into our community, we are not the ones that are trying to put a CHILD in jail for 22 years for a school fight, we did not leave Black people in neck high water for three days. white people did that. We did not kidnap a black woman and savagely abuse her. white people did that. we are suffering from 400 plus years of the most brutal treatment ANY people have suffered on this earth and we are still suffering. Michael Vick gets 5 years for a dog, but the FBI can t classify a duck a duck (ie a case of racial hatred as a bias crime). you need to pick a side, because like it or not a war is coming. if you look at everything thats been going on a war is coming. Dont get caught on the wrong side. If a people wont treat you right, they wont teach you right and you are too weak to put up a fight.

Your kind of thinking is why we are at where we are today.Black people commit horrific crimes to.Go ask that lady in West Palm Beach,FL, go ask them 4 police officers who were shot today.When are african americans gonna start being accountable for there own race and quit blaming the white man.The parents need to step up.If you are not part of the solution thats means your part of the problem and NO IM NOT WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bucsfan02
09-13-2007, 11:26 PM
[QUOTE=Blackman7;20877]You learn to choose better friends.[/QUOTIN REFERENCE TO THE QUOTE IS WHAT I HAVE SAID BEFORE IS HOW DO YOU EXPECT ANOTHER RACE AS A WHOLE TO RESPECT YOU WHEN SOME DONT RESPECT THEIR OWN RACE.WAKE UP AND QUIT BLAMING THE WHITE MAN FOR EVERY THING.ITS TIME TO STEP UP AND TEACH WHAT YOU PREACH AND IT STARTS WITH YOUR OWN RACE.AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE DESTROYING THEMSELVES AND THE WHITE RACIST ARE SITTING BACK LAUGHING CAUSE YOUR DOING TO YOURSEVES.

bucsfan02
09-13-2007, 11:32 PM
I am so angry, that we as black people have to go through the racism, and when we react it is a crime, where as if the shoes were turned it is self defense for the white people. We have to stand together in prayer, marches, speeches, letters, and what ever else we need to do to stop this. There is no question that these people need to be strongly punished. That is sad, hurting, and upsetting to hear. We have to stop this soon, because we as black people is going to get to the point to where we can take anymore then there will be war in America(blacks against whites).

ACTS OF RACISM ARE NOT JUST COMMITTED BY WHITE PEOPLE.AFRICAN AMERICANS COMMIT ACTS OF RACISM TOO.YOU NEED TO EDUCATE YOURSELF MORE ON ACTS OF RACISM AND NO IM NOT WHITE.

bucsfan02
09-13-2007, 11:40 PM
This is DISGUSTING....reminds me of Deliverance and TX Chainsaw Massacre rolled in one. I hope white people read this story about this woman and make up a damn excuse for this foolishness.

GO TELL THAT TO THE LADY IN WEST PALM BEACH,FL THAT WAS BEATEN AND RAPED BY TEN BLACK GUYS THEN BEAT HER 10 YEAR OLD SON UP AND MADE HIM HAVE SEX WITH HIS OWN MOM SO I ASK YOU WHAT YOUR EXCUSE IS.YOU DONT BLAME ALL FOR THE ACTS OF A FEW ITS NOT A BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE AS MUCH AS IT IS A GOOD AND BAD PEOPLE WHITCH ARE IN ALL RACES AND NO I AM NOT WHITE.

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 05:41 AM
That's ridiculous! Oprah built two damn schools in African and they are black. She supports other sistas on the move and her Legends Ball was a great show of love for Black women on the move who she has admired and wanted to show respect for their accomplishments. She certainly supports the only black democratic presidential hopeful. Hell she has had various stories of black folks struggles on her show including the Forsythe County, GA racist situation among many other shows she's done to show people's bigotry.

That "african school" was for GIRLS ONLY. What are the BOYS supposed to do...like Stedman, kiss the females ___???


Check your facts. The FIRST school is for girls the second is mixed population.

You STILL didn't answer my question. In the african ALL GIRLS school, what are the BOYS supposed to do...like Stedman, kiss their better educated female counterparts ____???

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 05:49 AM
GO TELL THAT TO THE LADY IN WEST PALM BEACH,FL THAT WAS BEATEN AND RAPED BY TEN BLACK GUYS THEN BEAT HER 10 YEAR OLD SON UP AND MADE HIM HAVE SEX WITH HIS OWN MOM SO I ASK YOU WHAT YOUR EXCUSE IS.YOU DONT BLAME ALL FOR THE ACTS OF A FEW ITS NOT A BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE AS MUCH AS IT IS A GOOD AND BAD PEOPLE WHITCH ARE IN ALL RACES AND NO I AM NOT WHITE.

What those black boys did was HORRIBLE, and like MOST young violent criminals, were likely raised without their FATHERS in the home, nevertheless, everything that blacks do wrong in this couintry, they learned from the WHITE MAN.

The MASTER influences the Slave!

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 05:59 AM
ACTS OF RACISM ARE NOT JUST COMMITTED BY WHITE PEOPLE.AFRICAN AMERICANS COMMIT ACTS OF RACISM TOO.YOU NEED TO EDUCATE YOURSELF MORE ON ACTS OF RACISM AND NO IM NOT WHITE.

I've never known a BLACK person to put up a sign saying "Blacks Only", make whites sit at the back of the bus, or because of his skin color, deny a white man a job.

The Nazis got their eugenics program from AMERIKKKA'S miscegenation laws, which prevented the mixing of races, even though WHITE MEN were screwing black and native women all along!

We won't even go into Apartheid, Jim Crow, and how, in the name of WHITE SUPREMACY, they COLONOIZED and EXPLOITED people of color ALL OVER THE WORLD.

The few things that blacks do are a REACTION to racism and not racism itself.

White people are the most RACIST folks in the world!!!!

gigi715
09-14-2007, 09:57 AM
6 arrested in weeklong attack on woman

A woman was sexually abused, beaten and humiliated while being held captive in a home for at least a week, sheriff's officials said Monday after making six arrests.

Those arrested, including a mother and son and a mother and daughter, are white. The victim, a Charleston woman who was being treated at a hospital Monday, is black. The FBI plans to investigate it as a possible hate crime.

"The things that were done to this woman are just indescribable," Logan County sheriff's Sgt. Sonya Porter said.

Deputies found the 23-year-old victim Saturday after going to the home in Big Creek, about 35 miles southwest of Charleston, to investigate an anonymous tip. One of the suspects, Frankie Brewster, was sitting on the front porch and told deputies she was alone, but moments later the victim limped toward the door, her arms outstretched, saying, "Help me," the sheriff's department said in a news release.

Besides being sexually assaulted, the victim had been stabbed four times in the left leg and beaten, Porter said. Both of her eyes were black and blue. The woman's wounds were inflicted at least a week ago, deputies said.

During her capture, the victim was forced to eat rat and dog feces and drink from the toilet, according to the criminal complaint filed in magistrate court. The woman also had been choked with a cable cord and her hair cut, it alleges.

One of those arrested, Karen Burton, is accused of cutting the woman's ankle with a knife. She used the N-word in telling the woman she was victimized because she is black, according to the criminal complaint.

Deputies say the woman was also doused with hot water while being sexually assaulted. The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault.

The sheriff's department requested the FBI's participation, said agent Jay Bartholomew.

The six suspects were arrested Saturday and Sunday. Deputies were still trying to determine whether the victim knew her assailants and how she came to be at Brewster's home, Porter said.

Frankie Brewster, 49, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony investigation.

Her son, Bobby R. Brewster, 24, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony.

Burton, 46, of Chapmanville, is charged with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.

Her daughter Alisha Burton, 23, of Chapmanville, and George A. Messer, 27, of Chapmanville, are charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.

Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding.

All six were held Monday in lieu of $100,000 bond each, and all have asked for court-appointed public defenders.
I am so proud of the cooperative efforts of Misters Baisden & Harvey as well as other celebrities with regards to the Jena 6. It is such a travesty that even in the 21st century, these type of issues remain prevalent in America. As important as the Jena 6 are, there is much work to be done in the U.S. This brutal and sub-human treatment of this young black woman by 6 whites is beyond comprehension. To be forced to eat animal waste and be called the "n" word. And yet, so far, these white individuals have NOT been charged with a hate crime and they are only under a $100,000 bond. Although we should, realistically I understand that we can not make the same type of concerted effort with each and every affront to our people that we are making in the Jena 6 case. However, I am begging that us, as a people, to remain vigilant and continue to unite when these cases come to our attention. If we do not keep them at the forefront of society, no one else will. What a shame it should be to all Amercicans that the same issues are as prevalent today as they were 400 years ago.

THANK YOU!

enpowermentnow
09-14-2007, 10:32 AM
If this is RIGHT ON then the logical conclusion to this is WHY BOTHER?

JEESH!

You obviously emerged home where affluence was measured by family interaction and love, rather than money. I agreed with the original post and I still do. This is not an attempt to mailgn the Jenna Six issue, I support Michael Baisden, for all his efforts we need to unite nationally on an issue such as this, however, while advocating for national issues, we must address our own family issues and what we can do within our own parameters.

Children are raised and monitored by play station, Nintendo, and rap music.

Children can identify a crack addict by age five

Children know drug dealers

Children are allowed to watch anything on television from age 1 to include x rated movies.

Children are label conscience by age three

Children are aware of gang affiliates.

Young boys, having their ears pierced before age three

Children are parents starting High School

Children stealing to eat because the received has been applied to the latest fashion or a drug binge.

Young men are creating children they have no intention on supporting.

Drug dealers are in possession of the monthly voucher or card and receive payment promptly with out any regard for the addict or the children

These are examples of actions that I have witnessed from folks in the community as well as, my own siblings. Can we control these actions? Yes, you can certainly try as I have. I found it’s a quagmire of obstacles to deal with these situations. If the community you dwell in is free of these situations RIGHT ON! I can not provide statistical information due to my point of reference being my experience. I am old enough to remember when there wasn’t any welfare black folk took care of each other. Now, the reaction is the individual is on welfare and drugs they need no assistance. In conclusion, I have fed more children than I care to mention. If you turn the parents in to social services a well intentioned effort to do well for the children we have unwittingly come to embrace family separation by adoption/foster care as the ideal alternative when parents are younger, "unmarried" or experiencing problems. Yet, examples are countless of how some adoptions/foster care turn out suggest that it may be wise to instead consider ways we can help families to meet their challenges and to stay together. Most of the situations listed above have resulted in that four letter word JAIL. If you want the family back GET RID OF THE CRACK.

Autoboxx
09-14-2007, 10:49 AM
6 arrested in weeklong attack on woman

A woman was sexually abused, beaten and humiliated while being held captive in a home for at least a week, sheriff's officials said Monday after making six arrests.

Those arrested, including a mother and son and a mother and daughter, are white. The victim, a Charleston woman who was being treated at a hospital Monday, is black. The FBI plans to investigate it as a possible hate crime.

"The things that were done to this woman are just indescribable," Logan County sheriff's Sgt. Sonya Porter said.

Deputies found the 23-year-old victim Saturday after going to the home in Big Creek, about 35 miles southwest of Charleston, to investigate an anonymous tip. One of the suspects, Frankie Brewster, was sitting on the front porch and told deputies she was alone, but moments later the victim limped toward the door, her arms outstretched, saying, "Help me," the sheriff's department said in a news release.

Besides being sexually assaulted, the victim had been stabbed four times in the left leg and beaten, Porter said. Both of her eyes were black and blue. The woman's wounds were inflicted at least a week ago, deputies said.

During her capture, the victim was forced to eat rat and dog feces and drink from the toilet, according to the criminal complaint filed in magistrate court. The woman also had been choked with a cable cord and her hair cut, it alleges.

One of those arrested, Karen Burton, is accused of cutting the woman's ankle with a knife. She used the N-word in telling the woman she was victimized because she is black, according to the criminal complaint.

Deputies say the woman was also doused with hot water while being sexually assaulted. The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault.

The sheriff's department requested the FBI's participation, said agent Jay Bartholomew.

The six suspects were arrested Saturday and Sunday. Deputies were still trying to determine whether the victim knew her assailants and how she came to be at Brewster's home, Porter said.

Frankie Brewster, 49, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony investigation.

Her son, Bobby R. Brewster, 24, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony.

Burton, 46, of Chapmanville, is charged with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.

Her daughter Alisha Burton, 23, of Chapmanville, and George A. Messer, 27, of Chapmanville, are charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.

Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding.

All six were held Monday in lieu of $100,000 bond each, and all have asked for court-appointed public defenders.



Just another chapter in the life of a black person living in Amerikkka. While this sad story comes to light. It turns out the sista knows Bobbie Brewster in some way, because she called the police on him for domestic battery a few months earlier. I think when this comes to light its going to turn out to be that Momma Brewster didnt like the black girl dating her son and she took it out on her. It was the Mother that kept stabbing her in the leg hollering N*GGER at her and making her drink out the toliet and eat rat feces. And according to documents she was told she is enduring this hell because she is black. But it was the sons that kept on raping her though. OMG!!! Stephen King couldnt write this kind of evil.. When the Mother of the sista said,"I didnt think this kind of thing still happens" That gave me pause. Because we do live in Amerikkka. Not that much has changed from Jim Crow to now except we can vote. And as evil as this act was, we all know they can be even more cruel when they put their minds to it dont we??? The Sheriff put it best,"Right out of a horror movie!"

Brothas and Sistas, keep your head on a swivel and your common sense about you.

Autoboxx
09-14-2007, 10:52 AM
I've never known a BLACK person to put up a sign saying "Blacks Only", make whites sit at the back of the bus, or because of his skin color, deny a white man a job.

The Nazis got their eugenics program from AMERIKKKA'S miscegenation laws, which prevented the mixing of races, even though WHITE MEN were screwing black and native women all along!

We won't even go into Apartheid, Jim Crow, and how, in the name of WHITE SUPREMACY, they COLONOIZED and EXPLOITED people of color ALL OVER THE WORLD.

The few things that blacks do are a REACTION to racism and not racism itself.

White people are the most RACIST folks in the world!!!!

I'll second that notion.. WHite history is riddled in racism. From Christopher Columbus to David Duke.

Denzel's Grandma
09-14-2007, 12:05 PM
When I first heard this on the news -- I thought, maybe I didn't hear it rite. As the days go on you hear more & more details of what this young woman endured. It made me sick then & its making me sicker now that they're saying it maynot be tried as a racial case because the woman knew one of her attackers. What does that have to do @ the price of tea !!!!!!!!! Sounds like we may have to March in Big Creek WV after Jena La. I'll end with saying the person who tipped off the authorities, may have just sealed their place in Heaven.

enpowermentnow
09-14-2007, 12:17 PM
[QUOTE=waterfellablack;20020]I am so hurt reading this story and understanding the pain this person suffered for over a week.

I happen to be watching part of a movie last night called," The Hills Have Eyes". It parrelles exactly to what happened to this woman. Also another movie that I refused to watch but could not avoid viewing some of it was " tHE tEXAS cHAIN sAW" . THERE ARE SOME VERY UNCIVILIZED PEOPLE LIVINGIN IN THIS WORLD.[/QUOT

I think their still are clans of moutain people who are uncivilized I have met individuals in the military that spoke of no running water, killing animals daily to eat...not having toothpaste...I actually witnessed a girl brushing her teeth with detergent

enpowermentnow
09-14-2007, 12:32 PM
Brothers and sisters stop commenting on her dating white people or internet connection. You are just contributing to a smoke screen. The bottom line is no one should be subjected to this type of torture. It does not matter whether you know the perpertrator or not.

6 arrested in weeklong attack on woman

A woman was sexually abused, beaten and humiliated while being held captive in a home for at least a week, sheriff's officials said Monday after making six arrests.

Those arrested, including a mother and son and a mother and daughter, are white. The victim, a Charleston woman who was being treated at a hospital Monday, is black. The FBI plans to investigate it as a possible hate crime.

"The things that were done to this woman are just indescribable," Logan County sheriff's Sgt. Sonya Porter said.

Deputies found the 23-year-old victim Saturday after going to the home in Big Creek, about 35 miles southwest of Charleston, to investigate an anonymous tip. One of the suspects, Frankie Brewster, was sitting on the front porch and told deputies she was alone, but moments later the victim limped toward the door, her arms outstretched, saying, "Help me," the sheriff's department said in a news release.

Besides being sexually assaulted, the victim had been stabbed four times in the left leg and beaten, Porter said. Both of her eyes were black and blue. The woman's wounds were inflicted at least a week ago, deputies said.

During her capture, the victim was forced to eat rat and dog feces and drink from the toilet, according to the criminal complaint filed in magistrate court. The woman also had been choked with a cable cord and her hair cut, it alleges.

One of those arrested, Karen Burton, is accused of cutting the woman's ankle with a knife. She used the N-word in telling the woman she was victimized because she is black, according to the criminal complaint.

Deputies say the woman was also doused with hot water while being sexually assaulted. The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault.

The sheriff's department requested the FBI's participation, said agent Jay Bartholomew.

The six suspects were arrested Saturday and Sunday. Deputies were still trying to determine whether the victim knew her assailants and how she came to be at Brewster's home, Porter said.

Frankie Brewster, 49, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony investigation.

Her son, Bobby R. Brewster, 24, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony.

Burton, 46, of Chapmanville, is charged with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.

Her daughter Alisha Burton, 23, of Chapmanville, and George A. Messer, 27, of Chapmanville, are charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.

Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding.

All six were held Monday in lieu of $100,000 bond each, and all have asked for court-appointed public defenders.

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 12:40 PM
When I first heard this on the news -- I thought, maybe I didn't hear it rite. As the days go on you hear more & more details of what this young woman endured. It made me sick then & its making me sicker now that they're saying it maynot be tried as a racial case because the woman knew one of her attackers. What does that have to do @ the price of tea !!!!!!!!! Sounds like we may have to March in Big Creek WV after Jena La. I'll end with saying the person who tipped off the authorities, may have just sealed their place in Heaven.

I believe it was more than she just "knew one of her attackers", but apparently was SLEEPING with him. After what whites have done to her ANCESTORS, she should KNOW BETTER than to sleep with the enemy.

Bad women are made for bad men and GOOD women are made for GOOD men!

Don't get me wrong. I hate what happened to the sista, but SHE decided that was the guy she wanted to be with.

I still remember how my grandmother...a godly woman, hated white folks(they put her through HELL in Georgia)

When one chooses to play with rattlesnakes, expect to get bit.

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 01:06 PM
Brothers and sisters stop commenting on her dating white people or internet connection. You are just contributing to a smoke screen. The bottom line is no one should be subjected to this type of torture. It does not matter whether you know the perpertrator or not.

I disagree. The TRUTH as to how the sista GOT herself in that situation, can be a LESSON to OTHER black women who were thinking of doing the same thing. (dating a white man)

There's an old saying that "the wicked shall be a lesson to the good".

Facing the UGLY TRUTH is the best way!
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I agree with you, however, that no one should be subjected to that type of torture.

And folks that don't wanna get bit, shouldn't play with snakes;

If they took the sista against her will, that is ONE thing.

If she was with them VOLUNTARILY, that's another;

We''ve got to learn to stop continually trying to cover up black womens mistakes!

warrior mamma
09-14-2007, 01:27 PM
i cannot believe my eyes...are you guys sitting up here, writing about this possibly being this young girl's fault because she was dating/sleeping with a white man?!?

how sinister is that thought?!? if this type of unspeakable act ever happens to your daughter, niece, or sibling, let's see if you feel the same...my god!!

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 01:33 PM
i cannot believe my eyes...are you guys sitting up here, writing about this possibly being this young girl's fault because she was dating/sleeping with a white man?!?

how sinister is that thought?!? if this type of unspeakable act ever happens to your daughter, niece, or sibling, let's see if you feel the same...my god!!

Nobody is saying it was that sista's fault for being tortured and raped, but it IS her fault for MESSING with him and not keeping her LEGS CLOSED.(unless you think a black woman can't control her own body)

What good is making EXCUSES for the sista, and she goes and does the SAME THING AGAIN???? (some sistas have a white man fetish)

I would have TAUGHT my female relatives better, and if they didn't LISTEN...oh well!

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 01:44 PM
Warrior mamma, to be honest, like you, I was OUTRAGED when I first heard the reports. They stated that the sista had been "kidnapped", tortured, and raped, and then I come to find out that she was DATING one of her attackers.

Too many black american women love WHITE MEN, if you ask me!

enpowermentnow
09-14-2007, 01:45 PM
I disagree. The TRUTH as to how the sista GOT herself in that situation, can be a LESSON to OTHER black women who were thinking of doing the same thing. (dating a white man)

There's an old saying that "the wicked shall be a lesson to the good".

Facing the UGLY TRUTH is the best way!
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I agree with you, however, that no one should be subjected to that type of torture.

And folks that don't wanna get bit, shouldn't play with snakes;

If they took the sista against her will, that is ONE thing.

If she was with them VOLUNTARILY, that's another;

We''ve got to learn to stop continually trying to cover up black womens mistakes!

I personally have never wanted to date a white man, however, we do not have enough information to really expound on this topic. I will always follow what was instilled by my mother. "If it looks like they doing wrong over there
don't go.

enpowermentnow
09-14-2007, 02:12 PM
RIGHT ON !

This was a response to why bother from sexybrainac


You obviously emerged home where affluence was measured by family interaction and love, rather than money. I agreed with the original post and I still do. This is not an attempt to mailgn the Jenna Six issue, I support Michael Baisden, for all his efforts we need to unite nationally on an issue such as this, however, while advocating for national issues, we must address our own family issues and what we can do within our own parameters.

Children are raised and monitored by play station, Nintendo, and rap music.

Children can identify a crack addict by age five

Children know drug dealers

Children are allowed to watch anything on television from age 1 to include x rated movies.

Children are label conscience by age three

Children are aware of gang affiliates.

Young boys, having their ears pierced before age three

Children are parents starting High School

Children stealing to eat because the received has been applied to the latest fashion or a drug binge.

Young men are creating children they have no intention on supporting.

Drug dealers are in possession of the monthly voucher or card and receive payment promptly with out any regard for the addict or the children

These are examples of actions that I have witnessed from folks in the community as well as, my own siblings. Can we control these actions? Yes, you can certainly try as I have. I found it’s a quagmire of obstacles to deal with these situations. If the community you dwell in is free of these situations RIGHT ON! I can not provide statistical information due to my point of reference being my experience. I am old enough to remember when there wasn’t any welfare black folk took care of each other. Now, the reaction is the individual is on welfare and drugs they need no assistance. In conclusion, I have fed more children than I care to mention. If you turn the parents in to social services a well intentioned effort to do well for the children we have unwittingly come to embrace family separation by adoption/foster care as the ideal alternative when parents are younger, "unmarried" or experiencing problems. Yet, examples are countless of how some adoptions/foster care turn out suggest that it may be wise to instead consider ways we can help families to meet their challenges and to stay together. Most of the situations listed above have resulted in that four letter word JAIL. If you want the family back GET RID OF THE CRACK.

enpowermentnow
09-14-2007, 02:15 PM
RIGHT ON !

This reply was written for sexybrainiac

You obviously emerged home where affluence was measured by family interaction and love, rather than money. I agreed with the original post and I still do. This is not an attempt to mailgn the Jenna Six issue, I support Michael Baisden, for all his efforts we need to unite nationally on an issue such as this, however, while advocating for national issues, we must address our own family issues and what we can do within our own parameters.

Children are raised and monitored by play station, Nintendo, and rap music.

Children can identify a crack addict by age five

Children know drug dealers

Children are allowed to watch anything on television from age 1 to include x rated movies.

Children are label conscience by age three

Children are aware of gang affiliates.

Young boys, having their ears pierced before age three

Children are parents starting High School

Children stealing to eat because the received has been applied to the latest fashion or a drug binge.

Young men are creating children they have no intention on supporting.

Drug dealers are in possession of the monthly voucher or card and receive payment promptly with out any regard for the addict or the children

These are examples of actions that I have witnessed from folks in the community as well as, my own siblings. Can we control these actions? Yes, you can certainly try as I have. I found it’s a quagmire of obstacles to deal with these situations. If the community you dwell in is free of these situations RIGHT ON! I can not provide statistical information due to my point of reference being my experience. I am old enough to remember when there wasn’t any welfare black folk took care of each other. Now, the reaction is the individual is on welfare and drugs they need no assistance. In conclusion, I have fed more children than I care to mention. If you turn the parents in to social services a well intentioned effort to do well for the children we have unwittingly come to embrace family separation by adoption/foster care as the ideal alternative when parents are younger, "unmarried" or experiencing problems. Yet, examples are countless of how some adoptions/foster care turn out suggest that it may be wise to instead consider ways we can help families to meet their challenges and to stay together. Most of the situations listed above have resulted in that four letter word JAIL. If you want the family back GET RID OF THE CRACK.


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FUNNYBRIDGE
09-14-2007, 02:56 PM
All I have to say is that:

Jenna, is numbered as 6

The West Virgina woman was held by 6

Triple 6 is the marking (number) of the beast (devil)

I fear that if another racial incident happens and for some reason the number 6 is prominent in it....that means that the beast has been released and it is going to get much, much, much worst. And if that happens, I truely fear for our youth. They are so "mad" and "angry" that if they would get in a racial situation, they would response with violence instead of resistance.

Please lets all get our youth back into church. Church was/is and always will be the strong hold for our community.

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 03:02 PM
I personally have never wanted to date a white man, however, we do not have enough information to really expound on this topic. I will always follow what was instilled by my mother. "If it looks like they doing wrong over there
don't go.

Your mother sounds like a very wise woman, and it shows by the intelligent statement you just made! :)

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 03:05 PM
It's funny how SOME sistas will DO ANYTHING for a WHITE MAN,

but won't give a BLACK MAN the time of day;

They'll kiss that WHITE MAN'S behind like a SLAVE tryin' to please his master,

But when it comes to a BLACK man, they won't do nuthin' he say!

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...and i'm supposed to run to a sista's aid because her WHITE MAN did her wrong???

If we crossed paths on the street, she probably wouldn't even speak to me!

DVF
09-14-2007, 04:55 PM
What happened to Megan just absolutely turned my stomach and made me extremely angry. Someone needed to tell me how something like this can happen....I demanded this....so, instead of directing my questions to local people, I decided to direct my questions/concerns/comments to the House of Delegates (West Virginia). So far, I heard only from Delegate Mahan. If you would like to send your msgs to the House of Delegates...demanding/seeking answers/letting them know how you feel....see emails below:

bwbailey@mail.wvnet.edu
mkgreen@mail.wvnet.edu
lougall@mail.wvnet.edu
mkessler@mail.wvnet.edu
vmahan@mail.wvnet.ed
rmoye@mail.wvnet.edu

Rev:
http://www/wchstv.com/newsroom/eyewitness/0709/070912-1.shtml

Megan and her family needs our prayers and support!

DVF

enpowermentnow
09-14-2007, 05:16 PM
Your mother sounds like a very wise woman, and it shows by the intelligent statement you just made! :)

She was intelligent, but not educated as you and I are, however, it amazes me how these small little statements have such an impact on how we make choices::)

enpowermentnow
09-14-2007, 05:23 PM
How many times have I heard "african americans" (whatever that is) tell me, "Stop playing the race card" or "it's not about race"???

The white man has those types of black folks brainwashed indeed;

After 400 YEARS of slavery, rape, torture, oppression, and dehumanization, for them to trust WHITE FOLKS, they must be HANDICAPPED MENTALLY.

(sung to the tune: "If You Don't Know Me By Now"---By Simply Red)

If You Don't Know Whites By Now---By Blackman7

Intro: If you don't know whites by now, you will never never never know them, oooo

All the things, they've done to you,
You should understand them, like they understand you.
Now white folks know the difference, between right and wrong,
But that's never stopped them, from raping africans.

Oh, so don't get excited, when you hear about blacks being victimized,
They've been doing it for over 400 years now because "white is right".

If you don't know whites by now, you will never never never know them, oooo
If you don't know whites by now, you will never never never know them, oooo
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Seriously, this type of news pisses me off, but the more the white man kicks the black race in the behind, the more they LOVE him!

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate white people, but NEVER trust your enemies and beware of your friends!

What concerns me are those BRAINWASHED blacks who say, "There is NEVER an excuse to beat a woman". If I had busted into the house where that sista was being held and BEAT the white women who were holding her hostage, those BRAINWASHED blacks who, like parrots, recite the words of their slavemasters: ("There is NEVER an excuse to beat a woman"), instead of seeing me as a "hero", would have been calling me an "abuser" instead!

Black people need to stop letting the white man think for them and learn to think for themselves. There ARE instances when beating a woman is JUSTIFIED, and this was ONE of them!

If I had been there I had ya back

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 05:25 PM
i cannot believe my eyes...are you guys sitting up here, writing about this possibly being this young girl's fault because she was dating/sleeping with a white man?!?

how sinister is that thought?!?

How "sinister" is the thought of YOU thinking that an unmarried woman shouldn't keep HER LEGS CLOSED???

How many of you remember THIS case?

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/heidnik/index_1.html

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 05:30 PM
It's funny how SOME sistas will DO ANYTHING for a WHITE MAN,

but won't give a BLACK MAN the time of day;

They'll kiss that WHITE MAN'S behind like a SLAVE tryin' to please his master,

But when it comes to a BLACK man, they won't do nuthin' he say!

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...and i'm supposed to run to a sista's aid because her WHITE MAN did her wrong???

If we crossed paths on the street, she probably wouldn't even speak to me!


you have got to be freaking kidding me? get out of here with that BULL...
you make it seem like there are more black women dating white men, then there are black men dating white women.. don't get it twisted...

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 05:31 PM
You don't have to deal with black men saying they won't date black women because they are too bossy, or have attitude problems, when the fact is they can't handle a STRONG MINDED BEAUTIFUL BLACK SISTER...

it's a two way street my brotha, but the road is wider on the black man's side

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 05:41 PM
If I had been there I had ya back

Thanks! :)

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 05:44 PM
you have got to be freaking kidding me? get out of here with that BULL...
you make it seem like there are more black women dating white men, then there are black men dating white women.. don't get it twisted...

No, I was just speaking from experience. I once said "hi" to a sista dating a white man, and she wouldn't even say "hi" back to me! :)

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 05:48 PM
You don't have to deal with black men saying they won't date black women because they are too bossy, or have attitude problems, when the fact is they can't handle a STRONG MINDED BEAUTIFUL BLACK SISTER...

it's a two way street my brotha, but the road is wider on the black man's side

Many sistas ARE "bossy" and have "attitude problems".

Blackwomen didn't get a 63% divorce rate by being GOOD;

I remember New York (Tiffany) on The Flavor Of Love saying, "I am NEVER wrong!"

That is typical of a black woman's SELF RIGHTEOUS attitude!

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 05:48 PM
No, I was just speaking from experience. I once said "hi" to a sista dating a white man, and she wouldn't even say "hi" back to me! :)

hmmm, ok but every black woman that dates outside her race isn't that sista you came across on the street...

1JeiMc
09-14-2007, 05:51 PM
I can't believe how soooo many White people can sit back a think that things are getting better, from what they were. When you hear a story like this WHAT has changed, NOTHING. Our black women were treated like this during slavery and yet, they still wish to project us to this. Yes, legalized slavery is over, but it still continues. What would the bond have been if this was a white woman and black assaulters? What amount of money would be placed and HOW much time for the crime?

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 05:54 PM
I can't believe how soooo many White people can sit back a think that things are getting better, from what they were. When you hear a story like this WHAT has changed, NOTHING. Our black women were treated like this during slavery and yet, they still wish to project us to this. Yes, legalized slavery is over, but it still continues. What would the bond have been if this was a white woman and black assaulters? What amount of money would be placed and HOW much time for the crime?


if they recognized it then they'd have to deal with the reality of it, which some refuse to believe

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 06:13 PM
hmmm, ok but every black woman that dates outside her race isn't that sista you came across on the street...

But if she chooses a WHITE MAN, it's not my responsibility to come to her rescue if he does her wrong!

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 06:15 PM
I can't believe how soooo many White people can sit back a think that things are getting better, from what they were. When you hear a story like this WHAT has changed, NOTHING. Our black women were treated like this during slavery and yet, they still wish to project us to this. Yes, legalized slavery is over, but it still continues. What would the bond have been if this was a white woman and black assaulters? What amount of money would be placed and HOW much time for the crime?

Yeah, Nancy Grace would be complainin'' about it every night!

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 06:17 PM
But if she chooses a WHITE MAN, it's not my responsibility to come to her rescue if he does her wrong!


so what if she chooses a white man? what is your point
it's ok to defend her from a black man?? logic please?

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 06:27 PM
After 400 years of their foremothers being raped by white men, black women TODAY should respect their ancestors memory.

Think of how those slave women and girls CRIED when those white brutes forced themselves on them.

Black women loving white men is an INSULT to their history!

Brown Sugar--- By The Rolling Stones

Gold coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
Sold in a market down in New Orleans
Scarred old slaver knows he's doing alright
Hear him whip the women just around midnight

Brown sugar how come you taste so good?
Brown sugar just like a young girl should

Drums beating, cold English blood runs hot
Lady of the house wonderin' where it's gonna stop
House boy knows that he's doing alright
You shoulda heard him just around midnight

Brown sugar how come you taste so good, now?
Brown sugar just like a young girl should, now

Ah, get along, brown sugar how come you taste so good, baby?
Ah, got me feelin' now, brown sugar just like a black girl should

I bet your mama was a tent show queen
And all her boyfriends were sweet sixteen
I'm no schoolboy but I know what I like
You shoulda heard me just around midnight

Brown sugar how come you taste so good, baby?
Ah, brown sugar just like a young girl should, yeah

I said yeah, yeah, yeah, woo
How come you...how come you taste so good?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, woo
Just like a...just like a black girl should
Yeah, yeah, yeah, woo

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 06:38 PM
Ok i'm going to say this, i have never dated outside my race, but the black man doesnt respect the black woman like he used to either, so if you are going to go there, recognize that as well.

You still haven't justified your statement.
You are saying it's ok to defend a black woman if she's dating a black man, but it's not ok to defend her if she's dating a white man? that ridiculous!

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 06:46 PM
No sista. What I am SAYING is that when I FIRST heard about that incident, they reported that she was KIDNAPPED, TORTURED, and RAPED, which led me to believe the attack was RANDOM and motivated by RACE, but later when I learned that she was DATING her attacker, I realized that her torment was the RESULT OF HER OWN DOING.

The bottom line is that She HAD NO BUSINESS sleeping with a WHITE man in the FIRST PLACE!

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 06:51 PM
No sista. What I am SAYING is that when I FIRST heard about that incident, they reported that she was KIDNAPPED, TORTURED, and RAPED, which led me to believe the attack was RANDOM and motivated by RACE, but later when I learned that she was DATING her attacker, I realized that her torment was a RESULT OF HER OWN DOING.

The BOTTOM LINE is that she HAD NO BUSINESS sleeping with a WHITE man in the FIRST PLACE!

you have got to be freaking kidding? that's like saying
because she wore a short dress and was drunk she served to be rapped...
that's stupid as all get.

No one deserves that no matter WHO they date...

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 06:57 PM
According to YOUR logic, a person who plays with snakes don't deserve to get bitten.

Sorry, but REAL LIFE just doesn't WORK that way!

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 07:01 PM
According to YOUR logic, a person who plays with rattlesnakes don't deserve to get bitten!

Sorry, but REAL LIFE just doesn't WORK that way!


no that's not my logic, you are saying its ok for ANY woman to be rapped that she deserved it because she was wearing a short skirt and was drunk? *this is my example not from the case*

just because she was dating a white man doesnt mean she deserved to be treated as less than human. PERIOD and if you believe that, i feel sorry for you...

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 07:15 PM
...and if after 400 YEARS of white men RAPING black women, you STILL believe that sistas should LOVE them, then you're like the Frog who trusted the SNAKE.

Soon you'll be his food!

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 07:17 PM
...and if after 400 YEARS of white men RAPING black women, you STILL believe that sistas should LOVE them, then you're like the Frog who trusted the SNAKE.

Soon you'll be his food!

love who you want, skin color shouldn't matter
but you still didn't answer my question.

you think its ok for a woman to get rapped because of how she's dressed??

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 07:23 PM
No, of COURSE I don't think it's okay for a woman to be raped, but some of y'all blacks sound like WHITE FOLKS...I don't KNOW about you!

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 07:26 PM
well the logic is the same you think this woman deserved being beat and rapped because she dated a white man is sickening..

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 07:27 PM
love who you want, skin color shouldn't matter
but you still didn't answer my question.

Skin color "shouldn't matter" but it does!!!!

This isn't the Garden of Eden....

This is AMERIKKKA!!!!!

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 07:29 PM
Yeah, I wish I had a black woman. They'll kiss a WHITE MAN'S ___, but they will NAG on a BLACK MAN and show him DISRESPECT. They'll treat a WHITE man like a KING and expect a BLACK man to be their ANXIOUS SLAVE, but not ALL brothas are foolish. I ain't playin' that "White Man Gets Respect/Black Man gets played the fool" mess! ;)

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 07:31 PM
well the logic is the same you think this woman deserved being beat and rapped because she dated a white man is sickening..

I never said that the woman deserved to be tortured and raped, but since she wants a WHITE MAN, I hope she likes what she gets!

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 07:33 PM
I never said that the woman deserved to be tortured and raped, but since she wants a WHITE MAN, I hope she likes what she gets!


*sighs* *smdh*

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 07:39 PM
Sistas are always complaining about how black men "aren't supportive" and try to "control" them and "won't let them make their own decisions". Like ALL black women claim, i'm sure this sista thought that she was intelligent.

Sistas want to be independent in the choices they make.

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 07:44 PM
*sighs* *smdh*

After white men have been RAPING black women for 400 YEARS what did you EXPECT they would do to her...take her to church???

I'll never forget the suffering and pain of my enslaved ancestors.

How soon some of my people forget!

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 07:46 PM
After white men have been RAPING black women for 400 YEARS what did you EXPECT they would do to her...take her to church???


so now all white people are the devil?
get real

angelinm
09-14-2007, 07:59 PM
As a black women, I find this to be very scary and I think it is just horrible. And yet again, this isn't all over the news!!! I guess if it were Paris or Nicole it would be news worthy!

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 08:00 PM
so now all white people are the devil?
get real

No, they were just a bunch of "white angels" that went over to africa and chopped those little babies heads off. They were "angels" who chained those africans and held them in a dark hole. It was "angels" who packed them in the bottom of slaveships, like sardines in a can...one on top of another. one by one.

It was "white angels" who navigated those slave ships across the atlantic, beating the men and raping the women and little girls. It was "angels" who occasionally threw some slaves overboard into the ocean. It was "angels" who stole Alaska, Australia, and peoples lands all over the world.

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 08:04 PM
No, they were just a bunch of "white angels" that went over to africa and chopped those little babies heads off. They were "angels" who chained those africans and held them in a dark hole. It was "angels" who packed them in the bottom of slaveships, like sardines in a can...one on top of another, all chained up.

It was "white angels" who navigated those slave ships across the atlantic, beating the men and raping the women and little girls. It was "angels" who occasionally threw some slaves overboard. It was "angels" who killed the native americans, stole their land, where they enslaved and raped more black people. It was "angels" who stole Hawaii, Alaska, Australia, and peoples lands all over the world.

Dude you are no different than a white man saying all black people are thugs . Or saying that all rappers are thugs, or hold on to your purse when you pass a black man because he might steal it from you. ALL WHITE people are not evil just like ALL BLACK people aren't thugs.

chakarnis
09-14-2007, 08:06 PM
What ever happened to NO BAIL? To express outrage is futile. Instead, I will take that energy and put it into helping my people. After the Jena 6 situation is resolved, we need to go to work on EVERYTHING that is inflicted on our people beginning with the news media. I am sitting here listening to CNN because it is the only outlet that is talking about Mychal Bell. And this loser that is talking to Rev. Sharpton spent less than five minutes and rushed through it. He heard nothing that Rev. Sharpton was saying and closed it out. Now they have a special report on O.J. Simpson. Enough. This whole shift has got to stop. And I think it's plain that we are the ones that have to take it into our hands and stop it all. This cannot go on forever. Unbelievably, there are still people who have not heard of the Jena 6 situation. It's time, people. It is time.

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 08:08 PM
What ever happened to NO BAIL? To express outrage is futile. Instead, I will take that energy and put it into helping my people. After the Jena 6 situation is resolved, we need to go to work on EVERYTHING that is inflicted on our people beginning with the news media. I am sitting here listening to CNN because it is the only outlet that is talking about Mychal Bell. And this loser that is talking to Rev. Sharpton spent less than five minutes and rushed through it. He heard nothing that Rev. Sharpton was saying and closed it out. Now they have a special report on O.J. Simpson. Enough. This whole shift has got to stop. And I think it's plain that we are the ones that have to take it into our hands and stop it all. This cannot go on forever. Unbelievably, there are still people who have not heard of the Jena 6 situation. It's time, people. It is time.

sad isn't it?

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 08:10 PM
As a black women, I find this to be very scary and I think it is just horrible. And yet again, this isn't all over the news!!! I guess if it were Paris or Nicole it would be news worthy!

Well you know in America, white is right!

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 08:13 PM
Dude you are no different than a white man saying all black people are thugs . Or saying that all rappers are thugs, or hold on to your purse when you pass a black man because he might steal it from you. ALL WHITE people are not evil just like ALL BLACK people aren't thugs.

The WHITE MAN has killed more people of races OTHER THAN HIS OWN, than ANY OTHER RACE.

The WHITE race has got OTHER races BEAT in WICKEDNESS.

Can't you recognize this???

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 08:49 PM
I remember when I used to debate with the Ku Klux Klan that the O.J Simpson case wasn't a hate crime.(it was a domestic situation)

This case is similar

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 08:52 PM
The WHITE MAN has killed more people of races OTHER THAN HIS OWN, than ANY OTHER RACE.

The WHITE race has got OTHER races BEAT in WICKEDNESS.

Can't you recognize this???


can't you recognize that right now we are killing ourselves more than the white man with black on black crime???????
and over stupid stuff at that...

but you saying all whites are evil is just like the whiteman saying all blacks are evil, don't you think??? same thing.. is it right? NOPE!

Blackman7
09-14-2007, 08:54 PM
can't you recognize that right now we are killing ourselves more than the white man with black on black crime???????
and over stupid stuff at that...

but you saying all whites are evil is just like the whiteman saying all blacks are evil, don't you think??? same thing.. is it right? NOPE!

I'm not saying that ALL white men are evil, but John Brown was ONE good white man in a MILLION.

Good white men don't grow on trees!

VaDiva
09-14-2007, 09:01 PM
I'm not saying that ALL white men are evil, but John Brown was ONE good white man in a MILLION.

Good white men don't grow on trees!


you implied it, which is why i kept coming back at you with examples of how white people view us. it's the same thing as you saying all these bad things about whites...you keep saying this and that, when i ask you specific questions you go off on a tangent without answering my questions until i break it down to you barney style.. you generalize about white people as some generalize about us, and that's not right. All we can do is live for today and work on our future... and PRAY for this young lady who's life will FOREVER be turn upside down.... forget color we are one race, the HUMAN RACE

Blackman7
09-15-2007, 06:25 AM
you implied it, which is why i kept coming back at you with examples of how white people view us. it's the same thing as you saying all these bad things about whites...you keep saying this and that, when i ask you specific questions you go off on a tangent without answering my questions until i break it down to you barney style.. you generalize about white people as some generalize about us, and that's not right. All we can do is live for today and work on our future... and PRAY for this young lady who's life will FOREVER be turn upside down.... forget color we are one race, the HUMAN RACE

Whatever... That's why the white man KILLS, RAPES, DISCRIMINATES, OPPRESSES, and DOGS black folks so much.

Because blacks like YOU make it easy.

The white man has taught you well!

Blackman7
09-15-2007, 06:32 AM
you implied it, which is why i kept coming back at you with examples of how white people view us. it's the same thing as you saying all these bad things about whites...you keep saying this and that, when i ask you specific questions you go off on a tangent without answering my questions until i break it down to you barney style..

That's because your questions were irrelavent.

The bottom line is that WHITES were the CRUEL MASTERS and blacks were the SLAVES!!!

Blackman7
09-15-2007, 06:48 AM
can't you recognize that right now we are killing ourselves more than the white man with black on black crime???????
and over stupid stuff at that...

but you saying all whites are evil is just like the whiteman saying all blacks are evil, don't you think??? same thing.. is it right? NOPE!

No, it's NOT the "same thing"!

We didn't enslave the WHITE MAN for 400 years...they enslaved us!

Dwight
09-15-2007, 06:56 AM
Considering what these six animals did to this woman, I can't believe their bond is only $100,000.00. Then again, this is America.


Dwight

Solidarity
09-15-2007, 07:15 AM
People of African descent in America no longer have to march, plead and beg to be treated fairly. Have we forgotten that we spend billions of dollars annually to support a racist system? No other ethnic group would stand for the kind of mistreatment and torture that African Americans tolerate. Hundreds of thousands of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS stand up for their beliefs. WHEN AFRICAN AMERICANS BOYCOTT SPECIFIC CORPORATIONS AND PRODUCTS, RACISM WILL SUDDENLY DISAPPEAR. MONEY POWER DRIVES THE "POWERS THAT BE". REMEMBER THE MONTGOMERY BUS BOYCOTT?

Blackman7
09-15-2007, 07:21 AM
can't you recognize that right now we are killing ourselves more than the white man with black on black crime???????
and over stupid stuff at that...

but you saying all whites are evil is just like the whiteman saying all blacks are evil, don't you think??? same thing.. is it right? NOPE!


This reminds me of a debate with the white author of a book about race and crime I once had. I don't remember the title of the book, but I remember the author's last name was "Lynch". Among his many lies was that "75% of all crimes are committed by african americans".

That's when I decided to challenge his statistics on race and crime.

I asked him, "Mr. Lynch, didn't you say that 75% of all crimes are committed by african americans?"

He said, like one who was sure of his answer, "Yes".

Then I told him, "When you speak of "crime", I take it that you are not counting the GREATEST ARMED ROBBERY IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. How about the white man KILLING the INDIANS and STEALING THEIR LAND, wouldn't you call THAT a crime?"

Mr. Lynch answered, "no".

Then I said, "You mean to tell me, that if I came into YOUR house and did to YOU what the WHITE MAN did to the INDIANS, you wouldn't call THAT a crime???"

Again, he said "no".

The DIFFERENCE is that when WHITES accuse BLACKS of being the biggest criminals, they're telling a LIE!!!

cdwduke
09-15-2007, 10:34 AM
I am just appalled that something like this could still be occuring in this day and age! Why are these 6 white people only being held with a $100,000 bond? If they were 6 African-Americans they would already have been convicted and serving life in prison. We have to start standing tall and fighting back. Racism is still very rampant!!
6 arrested in weeklong attack on woman

A woman was sexually abused, beaten and humiliated while being held captive in a home for at least a week, sheriff's officials said Monday after making six arrests.

Those arrested, including a mother and son and a mother and daughter, are white. The victim, a Charleston woman who was being treated at a hospital Monday, is black. The FBI plans to investigate it as a possible hate crime.

"The things that were done to this woman are just indescribable," Logan County sheriff's Sgt. Sonya Porter said.

Deputies found the 23-year-old victim Saturday after going to the home in Big Creek, about 35 miles southwest of Charleston, to investigate an anonymous tip. One of the suspects, Frankie Brewster, was sitting on the front porch and told deputies she was alone, but moments later the victim limped toward the door, her arms outstretched, saying, "Help me," the sheriff's department said in a news release.

Besides being sexually assaulted, the victim had been stabbed four times in the left leg and beaten, Porter said. Both of her eyes were black and blue. The woman's wounds were inflicted at least a week ago, deputies said.

During her capture, the victim was forced to eat rat and dog feces and drink from the toilet, according to the criminal complaint filed in magistrate court. The woman also had been choked with a cable cord and her hair cut, it alleges.

One of those arrested, Karen Burton, is accused of cutting the woman's ankle with a knife. She used the N-word in telling the woman she was victimized because she is black, according to the criminal complaint.

Deputies say the woman was also doused with hot water while being sexually assaulted. The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault.

The sheriff's department requested the FBI's participation, said agent Jay Bartholomew.

The six suspects were arrested Saturday and Sunday. Deputies were still trying to determine whether the victim knew her assailants and how she came to be at Brewster's home, Porter said.

Frankie Brewster, 49, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony investigation.

Her son, Bobby R. Brewster, 24, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony.

Burton, 46, of Chapmanville, is charged with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.

Her daughter Alisha Burton, 23, of Chapmanville, and George A. Messer, 27, of Chapmanville, are charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.

Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding.

All six were held Monday in lieu of $100,000 bond each, and all have asked for court-appointed public defenders.

Blackman7
09-15-2007, 10:52 AM
What did you expect in "The Land of The Free(whites) and the home of the SLAVES???"

notexactlylouannejohnson
09-15-2007, 12:30 PM
Why was bail set? I don't understand why snakes are allowed the chance to slither back under rocks. They should have been held without bail.

darrylbro
09-15-2007, 09:53 PM
Just looking at their pictures, I can tell these white folks are plain and simple white trash!!!

They look like the kind of people that practice incest among themselves and have a family history of mental illness and retardation. How else can you explain making a person eat rat feces??? It's probably something they had to endure as children themselves. To attack a young Black Woman for no other reason than she's Black, clearly demonstrates that racism will continue to exist as long as there's sick white folks out there. And believe me, there are a lot of them running around.....

Be careful.....

PosPar
09-15-2007, 11:26 PM
Yeah, I posted this story yesterday (guess it was moved 'cause I can't find my original post now) and I am still in shock and the sheer EVIL of this situation.

Ok, here's what we can do about all of this hate, racism and discrimination...dry up their money flow!!! That's the only thing that's going to save these people from their feelings of entitlement and superiority. We Blacks need to stop whining and start thinking, planing and fighting. Fight back with the only thing that will get their attention: money (or the lack of our money)!

If anyone needs ideas on how we can start to take our power back, hit me up 'cause I've got lots of ideas. All I need is the support!!!
I agree. I'm in.
ttttjones@hotmail.com

notexactlylouannejohnson
09-16-2007, 12:11 PM
You think that trash has money?

not that that strategy is without merit - but please - the role of money in the power struggle is totally irrelevant here - these people are not evil because you've given them too much money

keith k
09-16-2007, 06:42 PM
Hi Micheal Basden, just somethin that I saw and heard about on CNN about a sista that was raped repeatedly as well as tourtured and made to eat dog and cat fessis and perform sex acts for six white folks in West Virginia. Please, Please report on this because this is also being ignored in the main media. We should be marching to West VA on THIS!!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/12/woman.tortured/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail#cnnSTCVideo

Keith in Atlanta

BLU
09-17-2007, 10:46 AM
All I have to say is that:

Jenna, is numbered as 6

The West Virgina woman was held by 6

Triple 6 is the marking (number) of the beast (devil)

I fear that if another racial incident happens and for some reason the number 6 is prominent in it....that means that the beast has been released and it is going to get much, much, much worst. And if that happens, I truely fear for our youth. They are so "mad" and "angry" that if they would get in a racial situation, they would response with violence instead of resistance.

Please lets all get our youth back into church. Church was/is and always will be the strong hold for our community.

I beast will be release but I doubt very seriously if thiese racial incidents with 6 this and 6 that is the sign 1st of all there has been too many incidentes in the past billions of years that dealt with 666 so these small issuses of racism are not being the open door the the terror that the beast is told to enflick upon this world. don't spread that please.
this is just ANOTHER sample to show all NO_WHITES that we are still slaves to the oppessors and if we don't finally come together as a nation of NON_WHITES which includes everyone who is NON_WHITE then the white supermacy will always have nooses around our necks and do whatever the heck they feel like it to NON_WHITES. beside getting our youth back into church won't stop the beast from coming nor will it stop the white man from doing what he'd done since the beginning of time. take what doesn't belong to him so he can be superior and oppress those who were once weaker then him.

Athena
09-17-2007, 12:03 PM
Just looking at their pictures, I can tell these white folks are plain and simple white trash!!!

They look like the kind of people that practice incest among themselves and have a family history of mental illness and retardation. How else can you explain making a person eat rat feces??? It's probably something they had to endure as children themselves. To attack a young Black Woman for no other reason than she's Black, clearly demonstrates that racism will continue to exist as long as there's sick white folks out there. And believe me, there are a lot of them running around.....

Be careful.....

Honestly I just believe she happened to be black in this case. They met on the internet and she was set up. I do believe that this could have happened had the woman been white or anything else in this matter. There is another brother in jail in this family for sexually assaulting an 8 year old girl. This guy that Williams met on the internet allegedly killed his own father in 1998. In March of this year he was arrested for attacking his mother with a machete.

I honestly do not believe this crime was just spurred by racial motivation. This is just a SICK, PERVERTED family.

I also think this should make us more aware of who we decide to meet in person after chatting with them on the internet.

Article below this post.

Athena
09-17-2007, 12:04 PM
"Bobby Brewster was involved in two serious incidents earlier this year and during one of them he told Deputy Jason Mathis he had shot his own father in 1998.

On March 6, 2007, the Logan County Sheriff’s Department was called to the Brewster residence when a distraught Bobby Ray Brewster reportedly attacked his mother Frankie Brewster with a machete. At that time, he was arrested on charges of brandishing a deadly weapon, domestic assault and obstructing by deputies Jason Mathis, B. Ferrell and B. L. Cobb of the Logan County Sheriff’s Department.

The deputies continued to order Brewster to come out of the building during a 15 minute stand off before he finally came out.

“He was flailing that machete around when we arrived,” Deputy Jason Mathis told The Logan Banner on March 7, adding that Brewster was ordered to surrender and he eventually placed the machete on the ground and fled into an outbuilding for several minutes refusing to come out. Mathis said he and other deputies were concerned at that point that Brewster might come out with another weapon such as a firearm or compound bow and possibly attack them.

Bobby Brewster was reportedly involved in an incident earlier this year when a young man was stabbed."

http://keepuris.wordpress.com/2007/09/12/terrible/

Athena
09-17-2007, 12:14 PM
This is also another savage crime similar to Williams but done in reverse and a lot worse -- black on white. Whether the Williams case or this one was racially motivated -- I can only say that both cases should be supported by blacks and whites alike as in both cases IMO neither of the suspects are human:

Knoxville (WVLT) - The District Attorney General of Knox County announced the list of charges facing now five suspects in the double murder of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom.

The District Attorney General Randy Nichols is not saying whether or not he will seek the death penalty, but he does say the state will seek conviction for all charges filed in a 24-page indictment from the Knox County Grand Jury.

Lemaricus Davidson, 25, faces a total of 46 charges. Davidson was indicted on 16 counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom, 2 counts premeditated murder of Christian and Newsom, 2 counts especially aggravated robberies from Christian and Newsom, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom, and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom.

Letalvis Cobbins, 24, faces a total of 46 charges. Cobbins was indicted on 16 counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom, 2 counts premeditated murder of Christian and Newsom, 2 counts especially aggravated robberies from Christian and Newsom, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom, and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom.

George Thomas, 24, faces a total of 46 charges. Thomas was indicted on 16 counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom, 2 counts premeditated murder of Christian and Newsom, 2 counts especially aggravated robberies from Christian and Newsom, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom, and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom.

Just last night, police in Lebanon, Kentucky, arrested 18-year-old Vanessa Coleman. She faces 40 Tennessee state charges. Coleman was indicted on 12 counts Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom, 1 count Premeditated Murder of Christian only, 1 count Especially Aggravated Robbery of Newsom only, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts of aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom and 2 Counts of theft from Christian and Newsom.

http://www.volunteertv.com/special/headlines/5483316.html

Blackman7
09-17-2007, 12:51 PM
Honestly I just believe she happened to be black in this case. They met on the internet and she was set up. I do believe that this could have happened had the woman been white or anything else in this matter. There is another brother in jail in this family for sexually assaulting an 8 year old girl. This guy that Williams met on the internet allegedly killed his own father in 1998. In March of this year he was arrested for attacking his mother with a machete.

I honestly do not believe this crime was just spurred by racial motivation. This is just a SICK, PERVERTED family.

They were DEFINITELY racially motivated to call her a N________. You don't know much about RACISM if you didn't know that.

"This is also another savage crime similar to Williams but done in reverse and a lot worse -- black on white. Whether the Williams case or this one was racially motivated -- I can only say that both cases should be supported by blacks and whites alike as in both cases IMO neither of the suspects are human:"

By your WRONG opinion on the rape and torture of the black girl not being racially motivated (you failed to notice that her attackers called her the N word), you are obviously not qualified to give an ACCURATE point of view.

Since you obviously didn't know, everything that blacks do wrong in this country, they learned from the WHITE MAN.

The master influences the slave.

Athena
09-17-2007, 01:06 PM
OK -- I realize my error and for that I strongly apologize because I do realize in this case it was racially motivated due to the racial slurs :o but they did not know that when they were setting her up via the internet However, these low-lifes do not value human life period. The reason the Williams case is not being tried as a hate crime is because federal hate crimes only carry a max of 10 years. Due to the savagery of the crime, the feds and state agreed to use state charges because the state charges carry stiffer penalties - Life w/o parole. W Va does not have the death penalty or else that would have been sought in this case.

Blackman7
09-17-2007, 01:15 PM
You are an intelligent woman to acknowledge your error.

Good Luck to you! :)

Dee Middleton-Hernandez
09-17-2007, 02:19 PM
Thing are still the same in this country, the only way to stop rasciam is with money stop buying products.

Mahogany Love
09-17-2007, 02:31 PM
Where do you think these people are getting this stuff. Inside training. Take a look at this article I “accidentally” came across yesterday while looking for something else on-line. Know when you read the article you as well as I know I didn’t not come across this article by accident. Our Lord & Savior made sure I read this article to make everyone aware of what is going on. Take a look for yourself:

Greg Siskind's Blog

August 21, 2007
IMMIGRATION RIGHTS GROUPS CLAIM POLICE CAPTAIN KIDNAPPED GUEST WORKERS
Just got this press release over the transom. These are pretty serious allegations. I'm not a believer in trying people via the Internet, but the charges certainly should be investigated to see if there is anything to them. I also know that MIRA and ACLU are groups that are serious and credible and not likely to trump up baseless allegations and I would imagine you'll be hearing more about this story.

MEDIA ADVISORY
For Immediate Release Contact: Saket Soni 504/881-6610
August 21, 2007


PASCAGOULA POLICE CAPTAIN KIDNAPPED GUEST WORKERS

Mexican H2B visa workers charged kidnapping with intent to enslave, false imprisonment, and gross civil rights violation; demand justice from US attorney general Alberto Gonzalez

WHAT: Press conference featuring Mexican guest workers, civil rights advocates on steps of the US attorney’s office. Guess workers and advocates will expose Captain George Tillman of the Pascagoula Police Department. They will demand that US attorney General Alberto Gonzales launch a full investigation into charges of kidnapping with intent to enslave, false imprisonment, and gross civil rights violation. The workers arrived in the United States on H2B visas.

Tillman arrived in uniform and a patrol car at the door steps of the workers in Pascagoula, Mississippi, accompanied by a US recruiter on the night of August 2nd, 2007 Tillman claimed that recruiters owned the workers. He then kidnapped the workers, moved them to another location and threatened them with deportation if they attempted to leave.

WHEN: Wednesday, August 22

WHERE: New Orleans, Louisiana
Steps of the Federal Courthouse
500 Poydras Street
New Orleans, LA
10:00 AM

Jackson, Mississippi
Steps of the Capitol
400 High Street
Jackson, MS
3:00 PM

WHO: Workers kidnapped by Captain George Tillman, Pascagoula Police Department
Alliance of Guest Workers for Dignity
New Orleans Workers Center for Racial Justice
Mississippi Immigrants Rights Alliance
ACLU Mississippi
Louisiana Justice Institute

VISUAL: Guest workers and advocates will hold wanted posters prominently featuring Captain George Tillman. At the close of the press conference advocates and workers will leave for Pascagoula, Mississippi in a pickup truck in an effort to negotiate a resolution with Captain Tillman
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This would be th counterpoint to Talk radio, the better bits of which do know what "svengali" is. Limbaugh and paul harvey both occaionally refer to themselves as such.
Posted by: Honza P | August 27, 2007 at 11:35 AM
Yeah. It seems that in some parts of the US, foreign workers get the same treatment as those in Libya.
Posted by: big tuna | August 21, 2007 at 02:52 PM

Always: Love, Peace & Harmony all over the world

notexactlylouannejohnson
09-17-2007, 05:05 PM
I can't get the same messages I have in my brain down to my heart - I know logically an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth leaves the world blind and toothless - but this crap gets me so enraged I can't stop having thoughts like the 6 kids in Jena should be compensated for the bullshit they've been through this year by each getting one of these WV scumbags to have their way with.

Gaia
09-17-2007, 05:17 PM
After CENTURIES of raping their foremothers, I wonder how so many black women sleep with white men.

I wonder if we'll ever speak on that? :confused:
Hey Blackman7.
Just a little footnote, the history of violence perpetrated against black women at the hands of black men don't fare much better. Statistically speaking, 80% of crimes are committed by person(s) known to the victim(s). Just like most crime, domestic violence or sexual assaults are crimes of opportunities--namely proximity and access to the victim, and black men have access to black women in the black community. This story is laced with racial overtones, but the horrendous history of sexism and violence against women should actually be paramount in this story. Sexism is just as deadly as racism!!!!!

Blackman7
09-17-2007, 05:21 PM
Hey Gaia,
I was gangraped by a group of older black girls when I was 4 years old.

Everything that blacks do wrong, they learned from the WHITE MAN.

The master influences the slave.
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I wrote a poem about the experience in the "Rape and Abuse Poetry: Share your poetry with the family" thread in the Show Archives section.

86frankie
09-17-2007, 05:54 PM
4: BLACKMAN7

You're just an iodiot. You seriously got issues, I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you when you were four but get some help please. You obviously have something against black women. And yes I have dated a white man before, does that make me any less "down"? The hatred you have in your heart is not going to help anybody. I support jena 6 and I support Megan....and Oprah and Obama.

Blackman7
09-17-2007, 06:01 PM
4: BLACKMAN7

You're just an iodiot. You seriously got issues, I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you when you were four but get some help please. You obviously have something against black women. And yes I have dated a white man before, does that make me any less "down"? The hatred you have in your heart is not going to help anybody. I support jena 6 and I support Megan....and Oprah and Obama.

No offense, but "idiot" has only ONE "o", my dear. :)

You are also wrong to assume there is hate in my heart.

Athena
09-17-2007, 08:32 PM
BIG CREEK, W.Va. — State and federal officials decided Wednesday to pursue state charges that carry the stiffest penalties in the brutal kidnapping and weeklong torture of a black woman in Logan County, but the six suspects will not face federal hate crime charges.

While hate crime charges remain an option, U.S. Attorney Charles T. Miller said officials decided to defer to the Logan County Prosecutor Brian Abraham in pursuing state charges that have already been filed.

"We're going to focus on the core aspect of the case that carry more enhanced penalties," Abraham told The Associated Press.

Kidnapping carries a maximum penalty of up to life in prison and sexual assault carries up to 35 years in prison. The maximum penalty for a hate crime is 10 years.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296502,00.html

Athena
09-17-2007, 08:36 PM
Defendants in W.Va. torture case to appear in court
by The Associated Press

After a week of national attention on the rural community of Big Creek, six people charged with torturing a Charleston woman are scheduled to appear in Logan County courtrooms.

But the proceedings may be delayed by defense attorneys recusing themselves from the case because of conflict of interest concerns.

Four of the six -- Bobby Brewster, George Messer, Alisha Burton and Karen Burton -- are scheduled to appear Monday in Logan County Magistrate Court.

Frankie Brewster and Danny Combs are scheduled for magistrate court appearances on Tuesday.

Logan County Prosecutor Brian Abraham said at least two of the six public defenders representing the defendants have recused themselves, though, which could result in delays.

Lawyers for Bobby Brewster and George Messer have filed motions to recuse themselves, because they represented one or more of the defendants in the past.

The six are charged with assaulting Megan Williams, 20, for more than a week at a ramshackle trailer in Big Creek.
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The case has drawn intense public attention, with national organizations like the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and the NAACP visiting the state. The Rev. Al Sharpton has also said he plans to come to West Virginia because of the case.

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Since 1991, police have filed 108 criminal charges against the six. Frankie Brewster faced the most serious charges among them. Karen Burton, 46, of Chapmanville had the most charges in all, with 33; and her daughter, Alisha Burton, 23, had 20.

http://www.dailymail.com/story/News/200709175/Defendants-in-W-Va-torture-case-to-appear-in-court/

dj3011
09-17-2007, 09:21 PM
One of the things I learned most from the reaction to the Jena 6 situation is that when people are mobilized to action anything is possible. I have studied our history in this country and have developed a great appreciation for what our parents, granparents, and great grand parents have overcome and accomplished. However, it is our time to make some noise and cause people to take us seriously as a people.

I wonder how much coverage Fox, NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, and the like have given to this story of this incredible survivor; versus the coverage dedicated to parsing OJ's latest issues?

I won't be in Jena, I'll be supporting the cause locally. I pray that Jena is the begining of a great awakening...let it be the Pearl Harbor of Black, Brown, Yellow, and Poor White America. I like what Mike has been saying on his show...we will not be ignored. If anyone has numbers to the news desks of the media companies listed below...I say we call into those agencies and anyone else who'll listen and make some noise!

Onward and upward!

86frankie
09-18-2007, 10:21 AM
No offense, but "idiot" has only ONE "o", my dear. :)

You are also wrong to assume there is hate in my heart.



One or two you still got the point. Anyhow I had time to sleep on it and I would like to apologize for calling you out your name. We need to stop tearing each other down. I meant what I said about you having issues but I went by it the wrong way. forgive me please

Athena
09-18-2007, 11:57 PM
By TOM BREEN and SHAYA TAYEFE MOHAJER, Associated Press Writers 55 minutes ago



LOGAN, W.Va. - Prosecutors filed amended felony charges Tuesday in the case of a woman tortured for days in rural West Virginia, changes that mean the six defendants could face life in prison if convicted.

Graphic details of the crime were described in court for the first time. Carmen Williams, the woman's mother, left a hearing in Logan County Magistrate Court in tears after listening to the allegations.

Magistrate Jeffrey Lane referred the case against Frankie Brewster, 49, to a grand jury for action. She owns the home where the suspected assault took place. In addition to charges of kidnapping, sexual assault and giving false information to police, the prosecutor filed three counts of misdemeanor battery against Brewster and dropped a charge of unlawful wounding.

All six defendants now face charges of kidnapping, which carries a maximum life sentence. Four of the defendants had faced only lesser charges before Tuesday's filings.

The six, all white, are accused of assaulting Megan Williams, who is black, for more than a week at a ramshackle trailer in Big Creek.

Police say Williams, 20, was tortured, sexually assaulted, forced to eat animal feces and taunted with a racial slur. Her ordeal ended when an anonymous tip led police to the home Sept. 8.

The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault, but Williams and her mother agreed to release her name.

Carmen Williams said she wanted people to know what her daughter had endured.

No hate crime charges were filed, though some of Williams' supporters have urged the state to file such counts. Prosecutors have not ruled out such a move but have said they are focused on crimes with the toughest penalties and note that the maximum sentence for a hate crime is just 10 years.

Reading from a statement Williams gave deputies that day, Sheriff's Deputy Jeffrey Robinette said Megan Williams had been stabbed with what she described as a butcher knife and beaten with wooden sticks and fly swatters. He said the woman was sexually assaulted, doused with hot water and taunted with racial slurs.

Williams said in her statement that she was raped at knifepoint by Danny J. Combs in the trailer's bathroom, tied with a cable cord and choked by Karen Burton, doused with hot wax by George A. Messer, and stabbed by Brewster's son, Bobby.

The statement also said the defendants told Williams that they didn't like black people and that they were going to hang her.

"They told me if I tried to get out they was going to hit me and stuff. I was scared of them," Robinette read from Williams' statement.

Williams said two of her captors forced her to drink a cup of their urine, Sheriff's Deputy Rick Goodman testified.

Deputies are still trying to determine how long Williams was held.
In a statement to deputies, Brewster detailed her role and implicated others, saying "I just want to come clean." Brewster also is accused of forcing Williams to perform oral sex on her.

Goodman testified that Brewster told deputies that the six were afraid to let Williams go because she might tell on them. They also talked about killing her.

Combs, 20, now faces a kidnapping charge that carries life in prison. He originally was charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding. Prosecutors added two more sexual assault charges.


Kidnapping and sexual assault charges, along with additional counts of battery, were filed against Burton, 46, her daughter, Alisha; and Messer, 27, all of Chapmanville.

Karen Burton, who was arraigned by video teleconference from jail, said, "Oh, hell no," when informed of the sexual assault charge against her. The other defendants said only "yes, sir" and "no, sir" during their arraignments.

Karen Burton had been charged earlier with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony. Alisha Burton, 23, and Messer were charged earlier with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.

A hearing for Bobby Brewster, 24, was held Monday in Logan County Circuit Court. He is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony. Police have said he had a previous relationship with Williams.

Meanwhile, Williams appeared in a Charleston courtroom Tuesday afternoon to answer outstanding warrants from three counties charging her with crimes involving worthless checks. She was released on $8,000 bond.

Williams, who clutched a small teddy bear in court, was wearing a brace on her right hand and a bandage on her left ankle. She was accompanied by her parents, and her mother held her through portions of the court proceeding. Williams' mother also accompanied her during a brief period in a holding cell.
Hearings on the charges will be held in each county. Williams' father, Matthew, told Magistrate Ward Harshbarger, "She'll be there."
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anonymus1
09-20-2007, 02:30 AM
Good point, but being in their country, what more could we expect?

It's everybody's country, so how do we(fair and equal people) take control, that's the question, we have to accept the fact that control is in the wrong hands and its going to be a long time b4 that will change, if ever.

Who was that made a prediction of a race war? Blacks are not going to take it anymore. We have always been strong, but now we're educated. Something has got to give.

dkstephens
09-20-2007, 02:34 AM
What is it going to take? Story after endless story keep surfacing with such blatant, hypocritical elements it slaps any concientous driven person in the face. This story was on Good Morning America last week and that was the only time I heard it and too be honest I was surprised they ran the story.

Jena's tomorrow (9/20) and this story is published. It makes me ill thinking how many we don't hear about and how many people don't make it. It's so evil out there God Bless everyone who's trying to make a difference but it seems that sin is working harder and moving faster than ever before. Which is why we must always look to God, because by ourselves we can move but with God we can move mountains. We need to put him first and shout his name on high and scare the devil back to hell.

anonymus1
09-20-2007, 02:37 AM
After CENTURIES of raping their foremothers, I wonder how so many black women sleep with white men.

I wonder if we'll ever speak on that? :confused:

This is one sister you don't have to worry about! I love the brothers, there is no other that can compare. I see attractive white men, but never imagine looking at them more than a second. Blackman7 believe me,I know the brothers catch all types of attitudes and put downs, but there are mores sisters out here that will choose you anyday!

anonymus1
09-20-2007, 02:47 AM
I feel so sorry for our youths today. They need to put down the guns and drugs and pick up a news paper. The youth needs to turn off BET and turn on CNN. The world in the 21st century has not changed in my opinion, as far as racism, they are doing it in a more PC Political Correct way.

You see in the news everything that has nothing to do with these important issues.It's not going to change. It's up to the old heads from the 50's on back to educate our kids on history. The history that we don't know that they lived. Maybe it's so painful that they dont want to rehash those old feelings of being made to feel less than a man or woman, but tell the kids please! Teach them not to hate while teaching them their history. These kids don't know what strong stock they come from.

buffdaddy1728
09-20-2007, 08:36 AM
as a white male in america, my race ashames me sometimes because of low life people like this. the black community should be using there efforts to get the book thrown at these people instead of wasting time with the "JENA6" b.s. that seems to be the focal point of all conversations lately. consolidate your efforts to convict these losers and quit "promoting" reverse-racism hate crimes like the Jena 6
6 arrested in weeklong attack on woman

A woman was sexually abused, beaten and humiliated while being held captive in a home for at least a week, sheriff's officials said Monday after making six arrests.

Those arrested, including a mother and son and a mother and daughter, are white. The victim, a Charleston woman who was being treated at a hospital Monday, is black. The FBI plans to investigate it as a possible hate crime.

"The things that were done to this woman are just indescribable," Logan County sheriff's Sgt. Sonya Porter said.

Deputies found the 23-year-old victim Saturday after going to the home in Big Creek, about 35 miles southwest of Charleston, to investigate an anonymous tip. One of the suspects, Frankie Brewster, was sitting on the front porch and told deputies she was alone, but moments later the victim limped toward the door, her arms outstretched, saying, "Help me," the sheriff's department said in a news release.

Besides being sexually assaulted, the victim had been stabbed four times in the left leg and beaten, Porter said. Both of her eyes were black and blue. The woman's wounds were inflicted at least a week ago, deputies said.

During her capture, the victim was forced to eat rat and dog feces and drink from the toilet, according to the criminal complaint filed in magistrate court. The woman also had been choked with a cable cord and her hair cut, it alleges.

One of those arrested, Karen Burton, is accused of cutting the woman's ankle with a knife. She used the N-word in telling the woman she was victimized because she is black, according to the criminal complaint.

Deputies say the woman was also doused with hot water while being sexually assaulted. The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault.

The sheriff's department requested the FBI's participation, said agent Jay Bartholomew.

The six suspects were arrested Saturday and Sunday. Deputies were still trying to determine whether the victim knew her assailants and how she came to be at Brewster's home, Porter said.

Frankie Brewster, 49, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony investigation.

Her son, Bobby R. Brewster, 24, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony.

Burton, 46, of Chapmanville, is charged with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.

Her daughter Alisha Burton, 23, of Chapmanville, and George A. Messer, 27, of Chapmanville, are charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.

Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding.

All six were held Monday in lieu of $100,000 bond each, and all have asked for court-appointed public defenders.

rjonesvp
09-20-2007, 09:37 PM
as a white male in america, my race ashames me sometimes because of low life people like this. the black community should be using there efforts to get the book thrown at these people instead of wasting time with the "JENA6" b.s. that seems to be the focal point of all conversations lately. consolidate your efforts to convict these losers and quit "promoting" reverse-racism hate crimes like the Jena 6

I'm so glad that you see the horrible crime that has been committed here against this poor woman. What can you, myself, and the rest of us do to make this story heard and spread it to the masses of the people so that Ms. Williams and her family can get the justice that they deserve? I will be calling into the radio shows and my local groups to spread the word on this case and rally some people together to do something about this.

obewon844
09-21-2007, 08:52 AM
I wasn't a violent person and I don't condone violence but enough is enough. I do believe in protecting oneself and not by hiding behind the constitution, politicians or anything else. Arm yourself and protect yourself since the government won't do it.

As we stand together and look out for one another, this BS will come to a stop!

rjonesvp
09-21-2007, 09:07 AM
Yeah, I posted this story yesterday (guess it was moved 'cause I can't find my original post now) and I am still in shock and the sheer EVIL of this situation.

Ok, here's what we can do about all of this hate, racism and discrimination...dry up their money flow!!! That's the only thing that's going to save these people from their feelings of entitlement and superiority. We Blacks need to stop whining and start thinking, planing and fighting. Fight back with the only thing that will get their attention: money (or the lack of our money)!

If anyone needs ideas on how we can start to take our power back, hit me up 'cause I've got lots of ideas. All I need is the support!!!

I am definitely in agreement wtih you about pooling our financial resources together and pulling out of these other businesses. Money gets people's attention in America. Please share any of your ideas that you may have.

OnlyChild
09-21-2007, 09:17 AM
You got my support. I have been speaking this since I began to TRUELY understand. So you have got me and the previous person who responded, in addition to others you know, I know and they know. LET'S DO IT.

AFTER ALL, AMERCIA IS ABOUT TO HAVE THIER FIRST BLACKOUT IN AMERICAN HISTORY!! A BLACK PRESIDENT.......AND SAID A CHANGE GONNA COME!! :-)

****(IF YOU DON'T KNOW, HIGHLIGHT IT AND READ IT)!

msmilk&honey
09-21-2007, 09:58 AM
:confused: Why isn't the incident of the the blackwoman being kidnapped & raped in West Virginia being publicized along with the Jena 6 incident? I think now it definately the time to keep the heat & attention on the RACISM that continues everyday in our society. I'm sure Rev AL Sharpton would want to know and do something about this.

desireeshelton
09-25-2007, 11:28 AM
Here is an article that was emailed to me regarding this story. Why has this story not been told on the news?

"This happened in West Virginia, USA very recently and yesterday, Wednesday, 9/12th 2007. Megan Williams was still being treated for this in the hospital.

She was Tortured and Raped for a whole week, by Six White individuals, Three males and Three Females Between the ages of 20 and 49.

CNN normally does not reveal sexual assault victims' names. But Williams, who is hospitalized, and her mother, Carmen Williams, wanted her identity revealed.

Police said Bobby Brewster raped Williams, forced her to lick blood and drink from a toilet, and told his mother to kill Williams if she tried to escape.
Authorities previously said Williams was also forced to eat rat and dog feces.

According to criminal complaints filed in the county, Williams was assaulted, stabbed in the left leg, choked with cords and beaten for at least a week. When she was found, big parts of her hair had also been torn off of her scalp.
Williams says that Alisha Burton 22 cut her ankle with a knife while saying, "That's what we do to Niggers around here," police records show.


"I don't understand a human being doing another human being the way they did my daughter," Carmen Williams told The Associated Press on Tuesday from her daughter's hospital room. "I didn't know there were people like that out here."

Deputies received a tip and Saturday visited a home owned by Frankie Brewster in Big Creek, West Virginia.
As the deputies spoke with a woman on the front porch, "a female inside the residence limped toward the door with her arms held out, saying 'Help me,' " according to a news release from the sheriff's department.
"It's something you'd expect to see in a horror movie, not in Logan County," Abraham said. "She was subjected to unendurable torture down there."

The six are charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and battery. If convicted of kidnapping, a suspect could face a sentence of up to life in prison. The penalty for first-degree sexual assault is 15 to 35 years.
Abraham said he is seeking the maximum sentence on the kidnapping charges. In addition to the Brewsters, the suspects are Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, West Virginia; and George A. Messer, 27, Karen Burton, 46, and her daughter, Alisha Burton, 23, all of Chapmanville, West Virginia.
"They all have previous records and have been arrested numerous times," Sheriff W.E. Hunter said Tuesday. "They are familiar to law enforcement."
Frankie Brewster was charged with first-degree murder in 1994, but pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter in the death of an 84-year-old woman. She was released in 2000 after serving five years in prison, according to court records cited by the AP.
All of the six individuals that are involved in this case are accused of 108 different cases of crimes all combined.
All six were being held in lieu of $100,000 bail, and all requested court-appointed attorneys, the AP reported.
Investigators are still looking for two other people suspected of driving Williams to the home, according to the AP.

Carmen Williams had not reported her daughter missing, saying Megan Williams often disappeared for weeks at a time.

Carmen Williams said she is "horrified" by her daughter's injuries.
"She wakes up crying, and the first thing she hollers is 'Mommy,' " she said."

peacefulbliss
09-25-2007, 08:39 PM
6 arrested in weeklong attack on woman

A woman was sexually abused, beaten and humiliated while being held captive in a home for at least a week, sheriff's officials said Monday after making six arrests.

Those arrested, including a mother and son and a mother and daughter, are white. The victim, a Charleston woman who was being treated at a hospital Monday, is black. The FBI plans to investigate it as a possible hate crime.

"The things that were done to this woman are just indescribable," Logan County sheriff's Sgt. Sonya Porter said.

Deputies found the 23-year-old victim Saturday after going to the home in Big Creek, about 35 miles southwest of Charleston, to investigate an anonymous tip. One of the suspects, Frankie Brewster, was sitting on the front porch and told deputies she was alone, but moments later the victim limped toward the door, her arms outstretched, saying, "Help me," the sheriff's department said in a news release.

Besides being sexually assaulted, the victim had been stabbed four times in the left leg and beaten, Porter said. Both of her eyes were black and blue. The woman's wounds were inflicted at least a week ago, deputies said.

During her capture, the victim was forced to eat rat and dog feces and drink from the toilet, according to the criminal complaint filed in magistrate court. The woman also had been choked with a cable cord and her hair cut, it alleges.

One of those arrested, Karen Burton, is accused of cutting the woman's ankle with a knife. She used the N-word in telling the woman she was victimized because she is black, according to the criminal complaint.

Deputies say the woman was also doused with hot water while being sexually assaulted. The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault.

The sheriff's department requested the FBI's participation, said agent Jay Bartholomew.

The six suspects were arrested Saturday and Sunday. Deputies were still trying to determine whether the victim knew her assailants and how she came to be at Brewster's home, Porter said.

Frankie Brewster, 49, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony investigation.

Her son, Bobby R. Brewster, 24, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony.

Burton, 46, of Chapmanville, is charged with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.

Her daughter Alisha Burton, 23, of Chapmanville, and George A. Messer, 27, of Chapmanville, are charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.

Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding.

All six were held Monday in lieu of $100,000 bond each, and all have asked for court-appointed public defenders.
Just wanted to make a point, Crime is everywhere. This shouldnt have happened.

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Alleged Attack Against 13-Year-Old Virginia Boy Caught on Tape
Monday, September 24, 2007

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Police in Norfolk, Va., are investigating whether an alleged attack against a 13-year-old boy that witnesses caught on tape Saturday was racially motivated, WAVY-TV reported Monday.

The tape shows the victim, Damien O'Rourke, who is white, being violently beaten by a group of African American teenagers. According to the report, Damien and his mother, Reesha Price, said the fight was unprovoked and believe Damien was attacked because he is white.

Damien said he was attacked while going to meet friends to play football. Price told WAVY-TV that she found her badly beaten son just blocks from her home after receiving a phone call alerting her to the attack Saturday afternoon.

The family had just recently moved to the Norfolk area, WAVY-TV reported. Damien said one of his alleged attackers was among a group of students at his school that mistreated him because he was the new kid. Price told WAVY-TV that she now fears her son is being targeted because of his race.

Norfolk police reportedly told WAVY-TV that their gang unit will be investigating the case.

peacefulbliss
09-25-2007, 08:42 PM
This is one sister you don't have to worry about! I love the brothers, there is no other that can compare. I see attractive white men, but never imagine looking at them more than a second. Blackman7 believe me,I know the brothers catch all types of attitudes and put downs, but there are mores sisters out here that will choose you anyday!
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Alleged Attack Against 13-Year-Old Virginia Boy Caught on Tape
Monday, September 24, 2007

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Police in Norfolk, Va., are investigating whether an alleged attack against a 13-year-old boy that witnesses caught on tape Saturday was racially motivated, WAVY-TV reported Monday.

The tape shows the victim, Damien O'Rourke, who is white, being violently beaten by a group of African American teenagers. According to the report, Damien and his mother, Reesha Price, said the fight was unprovoked and believe Damien was attacked because he is white.

Damien said he was attacked while going to meet friends to play football. Price told WAVY-TV that she found her badly beaten son just blocks from her home after receiving a phone call alerting her to the attack Saturday afternoon.

The family had just recently moved to the Norfolk area, WAVY-TV reported. Damien said one of his alleged attackers was among a group of students at his school that mistreated him because he was the new kid. Price told WAVY-TV that she now fears her son is being targeted because of his race.

Norfolk police reportedly told WAVY-TV that their gang unit will be investigating the case.

ambeaubian
09-25-2007, 11:58 PM
That is just as frightening to hear about. It Infuriates me it does not matter what race that young teen is still he was beaten. WHY.. ? What is the purpose? What was the purpose for Megan Williams to be abused and violated.. What is the purpose? Why is Mychal Bell still in jail on no charges pending...? Hypocritical and typical we live in the two americas one unjust, and just us.

What will happen to Jena 6, Megan Williams, and Damien O'Rourke and all who are affected? After what they have experienced? To heal those wounds internal and for some external? Time will only tell..

How is that we continue to watch and perpetuate the images to fuel the fire.
Being angry is not enough.. Use it for positive change
It is not just about what to do it is how? What ever is your calling to participate by any means nescessary ...Is it marching.. Yes. Is providing funding for the right causes.. Yes. Is it being apart of the political process..Yes. Even if it means boycotts of products and services. Yes. Even for the Arm Chair revolutionaries are needed, send a email. Tell someone about this. Talk your children, nieces and nephews, brothers, sisters and mother and fathers. Even the hard headed ones. About what can hamper and hinder dreams and what lies in wait to snare the desire and the dreams from our children and we as adults. Stories like this will continue to plague the airwaves, which someone is being battered, abused or murdered. Which it dishartening enough to see and to know that can happen anywhere in the world.....Look what one person can do.. it does matter.. The choice is each one of us to support.. Not to berate what a person is doing to contribute to the progess of change. Or ask what they are doing to change the demagogues that society has used to define African Americans.. It belongs to all of us to change it.. one issue at a time, one hour, minute,day, week, or year.

whocareswecare
09-27-2007, 12:47 PM
thank you, keep us posted please, man i'm curious as to how much is happening out there that is not being brought to our attention.

WPBDUDE
10-10-2007, 12:51 PM
I just have to say how horrible this was. Really, I think this was more terrible than the events in Jena La. It was depravity committed against a black WOMAN. Is it open season on our women? A STRONG message must be sent to America that says we won't stand for this. Okay, there are no officials address in this matter, but...well, what can be done when its 'okay' to call our women "bitches" and "hoes"? If we ourselves cannot show our women respect, how can we make the world respect our women?

This is sick and I wish something could be done that would prevent such from EVER happening again. But, Man can't do it.
No one is safe. Man has been the best at dominating and destroying Man. Will it ever change?